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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 08:01 PM Feb 2017

Charles P. Pierce: This Is Madness

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a52873/trump-speech-military-terrorism/

This Is Madness
What about the people who might have to follow this guy's orders?

By Charles P. Pierce
Feb 6, 2017


Today, the president* went to McDill Air Force Base to chat with some of the members of the military of whom he is the commander-in-chief, god help the civilized world. His basic pitch to them is the same as his basic pitch to everyone these days—to wit, was that an awesome campaign or what?

"That's so nice. A lot of spirit. We have tremendous spirit. We had a wonderful election, didn't we?"


Then it was time to discuss the terrorist threat.

"To these forces of death and desiccation, America and it's allies will defeat you. We will defeat them. We will defeat Radical Islamic terrorism. The challenges facing our nation are very large — very, very large. We are up against an emery that celebrates death and worships destruction. Radical Islamic terrorists are determined to strike our homeland, as they did on 9/11, from Boston to Orlando to San Bernadino."


Not a single one of the terrorists involved in the referenced attacks came from any of the seven countries named in his executive order. Neither were any of them five-month old babies who needed heart surgeries.


"It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it… They have their reasons and you understand that."


Got that? There are terrorist attacks happening and the media not only are not reporting them, they don't want to report them because reasons. There probably was a massive truck bombing right at the end of your street last night and it didn't even make the local evening news because the anchor team of Todd Coiffure and Kim Kimclone are secretly sympathetic to ISIS and kept the news from you. Before we go to Tony al-Baghdadi with tonight's weather, here's a word from the great folks down at Caliphate Trucks.

This is madness. Worse, this is madness presented as leadership to the people who may have to react and respond to actual acts of actual terrorism, and who have bigger problems with which to cope than whether or not the C-in-C's elevator goes all the way to the penthouse. I have absolutely no idea what would go through the mind of a rookie airman who hears this fantastical drivel and wonders how he has come under the command of a guy who seems to be channeling Alex Jones through the fillings in his teeth. It's every day now, and I can't even imagine what a critical mass of this craziness would look like, and I'm pretty sure I don't want to know.
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Charles P. Pierce: This Is Madness (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2017 OP
Madness. MADNESS!!! longship Feb 2017 #1
WAHNSINN! pat_k Feb 2017 #50
Did Trump really say "death and desiccation" VMA131Marine Feb 2017 #2
He probably tried to say decimation. BSdetect Feb 2017 #7
I'm thinking it should have been "desecration," Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #13
I call male cow defecation world wide wally Feb 2017 #23
Death and Defecation BBG Feb 2017 #38
"Male cow"? SnowCritter Feb 2017 #59
close enough world wide wally Feb 2017 #60
I'm multilingual: El Toro Poopoo Raster Feb 2017 #67
I call mad cow disease Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #65
What the hell, maybe death and detonation Tanuki Feb 2017 #51
I don't think so - 12:00 minutes into the video ... Jim__ Feb 2017 #64
Stupid cic Cha Feb 2017 #3
"We are up against an emery..."? mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #4
The devious bastards have grit! nt pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #5
There's a reason you can't take fingernail clippers on airplanes. progressoid Feb 2017 #40
I feel sorry for the transcibers trying to decipher which of Trump's 77 words he means csziggy Feb 2017 #69
In my dreams he's hauled away in handcuffs. Never thought it might be a straight jacket. Native Feb 2017 #6
It Has Been a Busy Day for Presidential Statements Divorced from Reality -CBS Scott Pelley Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #8
wait... really? renate Feb 2017 #12
I heard it too. Was cooking dinner and about dropped a pan. Native Feb 2017 #14
wow. that is AMAZING renate Feb 2017 #15
I had to ask my husband if he heard what I'd heard. Couldn't believe I was hearing that! Native Feb 2017 #17
Found video and posted it here- Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #26
oh my gosh renate Feb 2017 #45
Yep. Right off the top. calimary Feb 2017 #66
Wow! brer cat Feb 2017 #22
It's amazing to watch Pelley drop that line! Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #27
Thanks for the link, Snarkoleptic. brer cat Feb 2017 #31
Whoot! The press steps up to call it as it is! Finally! LuckyLib Feb 2017 #47
Today's talking point addresses this. Give tRump's administration time. They're learning as they go ffr Feb 2017 #9
captive audiences onethatcares Feb 2017 #10
No, you're ordered to go. sarge43 Feb 2017 #30
trust me Sarge43 onethatcares Feb 2017 #32
Did he go to MacDill AFB in Tampa, Fla. or ms liberty Feb 2017 #11
Here in Tampa. Native Feb 2017 #16
Well... ms liberty Feb 2017 #20
I just read that Spicer said he will be providing a list of the attacks that haven't been reported. Native Feb 2017 #18
Well he can't include the Bowling Green Massacre brer cat Feb 2017 #24
Besides Bowling Green? world wide wally Feb 2017 #29
What must our soldiers be thinking when this baboon starts DK504 Feb 2017 #19
He got a lot of applause JunkYardDogg Feb 2017 #25
or, did Trump's team bring a team of their own NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #61
"death and dessication"??? Richard D Feb 2017 #21
"this one's desiccated to the one I love...." They_Live Feb 2017 #28
He's an illiterate fool. SHRED Feb 2017 #33
So even Fox News is censoring terrorist attacks? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #34
What freaking three year old wrote this????? IdiotsforPalin Feb 2017 #35
At the rate he is pissing them off, we will... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #41
Thank for posting! n/t vkkv Feb 2017 #36
Did he forget to mention the Bowling Green Massacre? tclambert Feb 2017 #37
He sounds like zentrum Feb 2017 #39
I've never ever heard a reasoned, cogent, logical argument from Trump...disgusting drivel. nt iluvtennis Feb 2017 #42
Desiccation? They're gonna sap our precious bodily fluids! VOX Feb 2017 #43
VOX: It's heartening to see that watrwefitinfor Feb 2017 #53
He's probably inoculating the ones he can reach with that nonsense, so that when the real joet67 Feb 2017 #44
Not so much madness as it is batshit utter fucking insanity! Initech Feb 2017 #46
"Forces of Death and Dessication"???? Lifelong Protester Feb 2017 #48
If the Media are in cahoots with ISIS, wouldn't they shout the attacks far and wide? rickford66 Feb 2017 #49
BeYOND madness... Guilded Lilly Feb 2017 #52
Oh, the press briefing is gonna be great today! randome Feb 2017 #54
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #55
Bottom line: Trump needs a psychiatric evaluation. He "ain't right." Vinca Feb 2017 #56
Desiccation??? Grins Feb 2017 #57
Madness is the RW conspiracy nuts who believe it IronLionZion Feb 2017 #58
Note Trump's consistent misspelling of San Bernardino. yardwork Feb 2017 #62
Unfortunately a greater number of military members supported Trump in the election Fla Dem Feb 2017 #63
Chuck,,,it's just starting benld74 Feb 2017 #68

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
13. I'm thinking it should have been "desecration,"
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:17 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

but who the hell knows?

BBG

(2,534 posts)
38. Death and Defecation
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:05 PM
Feb 2017

Seems to be the most likely polysyllabic word he would know compared with the other guesses. Defecation.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
59. "Male cow"?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:20 PM
Feb 2017

Sorry, but don't you mean "male bovine" - cows are, by definition, female.

I usually use the phrase "male bovine excrement".

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
51. What the hell, maybe death and detonation
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:36 AM
Feb 2017

Just about anything makes as much sense as what he actually said.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
64. I don't think so - 12:00 minutes into the video ...
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

... "to these forces of death and destruction":

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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
69. I feel sorry for the transcibers trying to decipher which of Trump's 77 words he means
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017

As someone who has always had trouble understanding a New York accent, much of what Trump says is incomprehensible (even when I realize what words he attempt to enunciate). The poor transcribers have to try to do it quickly with the entire world critiquing their efforts.

On the other hand, most of the world is willing to believe any stupid mistake as totally belonging to Trump.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
8. It Has Been a Busy Day for Presidential Statements Divorced from Reality -CBS Scott Pelley
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:00 PM
Feb 2017

Open moments of the CBS evening news!

renate

(13,776 posts)
45. oh my gosh
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:11 PM
Feb 2017

This is amazing. Thank you so much!

Edited to add: I'm still watching the clip and I just can't believe that the news media are talking like this! They're almost coming right out and saying that the President of the United States is either lying or delusional. Wow!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
9. Today's talking point addresses this. Give tRump's administration time. They're learning as they go
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:04 PM
Feb 2017

That ought to build confidence in our fighting men and women, eh?



Say what? Learning as you go? (We'll do better - WaPo)

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
10. captive audiences
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:11 PM
Feb 2017

if you don't go to the "stand up" you don't get promoted.

Excuse me but my bone spur hurts

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
30. No, you're ordered to go.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:46 PM
Feb 2017

So, you go. Many, many commander's calls have taught you the art of sleeping with your eyes open. Among the gang is a designated listener; listener's hearing is just marginal from working the flight line or EOD. When whoever finally winds down, listener elbows the zoomer next to him/her and so forth down the line. Give the five clap applause, come to attention, leave. Depending upon the among of bs produced during 'speech', critique ranges from "meh" to "JHC on a fork lift, that sucked". Return to work.

If you haven't been to at least one of these, you haven't gotten the most out of your enlistment.

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
20. Well...
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:25 PM
Feb 2017

That is what I figured, having never myself heard of another one. I grew up in Tampa, in TnC. Leto, 77.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
24. Well he can't include the Bowling Green Massacre
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

because everyone took a stab at reporting that...with hilarious results.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
19. What must our soldiers be thinking when this baboon starts
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:25 PM
Feb 2017

his grunting and garbled, incoherent ramblings.

How many were forced to go? How many had the fake smiles plastered on their faces? Those poor people.

JunkYardDogg

(873 posts)
25. He got a lot of applause
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

I guess that they were threatened with having to go on the next commando raid ( probably to the Iranian Special Forces, Qud, command center), A raid properly planned out by Trump while he was treating a Ruskie hooker for her urinary blockage problems

IdiotsforPalin

(170 posts)
35. What freaking three year old wrote this?????
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:50 PM
Feb 2017

"To these forces of death and desiccation, America and it's allies will defeat you. We will defeat them. We will defeat Radical Islamic terrorism. The challenges facing our nation are very large — very, very large. We are up against an emery that celebrates death and worships destruction. Radical Islamic terrorists are determined to strike our homeland, as they did on 9/11, from Boston to Orlando to San Bernadino."

If this was Ad Lib, this is the sentence ability of a third grader.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
37. Did he forget to mention the Bowling Green Massacre?
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:04 PM
Feb 2017

The very, very dishonest press refused to cover that one, too.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
39. He sounds like
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:08 PM
Feb 2017

....he's longing for the blood and destruction he's imagining.

It's like he's trying to enflame them more and more---as if he's hoping they do come, because that would sure save and "vindicate" his presidency.

In fact, given Bannon's lust for war, I'm starting to worry about a black flag event occurring, that allows the power and media seizure that they seek.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
43. Desiccation? They're gonna sap our precious bodily fluids!
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

I'm gonna hold onto my fluids as long as I can!

Paging General Ripper ASAP!

watrwefitinfor

(1,399 posts)
53. VOX: It's heartening to see that
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:42 AM
Feb 2017

at least one person on DU grasped the true import of his words.



Wat

joet67

(624 posts)
44. He's probably inoculating the ones he can reach with that nonsense, so that when the real
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:41 PM
Feb 2017

attacks start he can claim he called them out and now they're reporting. Fits his MO. Are we sure he isn't the Antichrist?

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
49. If the Media are in cahoots with ISIS, wouldn't they shout the attacks far and wide?
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:27 PM
Feb 2017

I have a few friends who fall for this nonsense. Educated people.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
52. BeYOND madness...
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 04:20 AM
Feb 2017

What, outside of a horribly written, grade schooler sci fi comic book, is the reality of this insane man and the twilight zone world in which he and his f'ing anti- human political party exist??????

It just cannot. be. happening.

He has the mind and vocabulary of a dim witted goofball third grader who is the future personification of what will be spawned under a Betsy DeVos educational program.

He is a pathological LIAR with not one ounce of accountability for anything that spews forth from his ignorant mouth and is enabled by a barnyard of mutant freaks.

His third wife is a blatant plagiarist who doesn't live with him in the White House for fuck sake and sees the position of First Lady as a marketing tool to make a personal fortune, sueing a foreign press for defaming character she has yet to display.

His screwball capitalistic punk adult sons are screwing the taxpayers while amassing a conflict of interest fortune for their "no rules apply to me" father.

The Cretin has a verbal hard on for Putin. PUTIN!!!!! While he denigrates the morality of the nation that hasn't imprisoned his swarmy ass for bilious acts of what would normally, in a sane world, be treason.

And he Tweets juvenile messages of an illiterate playground bully full of insecure bat shit crazy rantings while personally reminding every audience he procures in person that the election was great and isn't he wonderful.
Certifiable.
Certifiable.
Certifiable.

Beyond any imaginable Madness

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
54. Oh, the press briefing is gonna be great today!
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:52 AM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

Grins

(7,212 posts)
57. Desiccation???
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 12:11 PM
Feb 2017
"To these forces of death and desiccation..."

Desiccation, noun des·ic·ca·tion ˌdes-i-ˈkā-shən

The state of extreme dryness; the process of desiccating or the state of being or becoming desiccated; especially: a complete or nearly complete deprivation of moisture.

Dafuc....?

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
58. Madness is the RW conspiracy nuts who believe it
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:07 PM
Feb 2017

now that this lunacy is validated by our own Presidential administration things have gotten out of control.

Never Remember the Bowling Green Massacre or the Iranian attack on US ships.

Fla Dem

(23,650 posts)
63. Unfortunately a greater number of military members supported Trump in the election
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 04:07 PM
Feb 2017

I 'm not convinced they would not blindly follow his orders as well.

Fifty-five percent of active and former military members support Trump, while 36 percent back Clinton. But nearly half — 47 percent — say they are not confident in Trump's ability as commander in chief of the military. Sixty-four percent said the same about Clinton.Sep 7, 2016

Poll: Trump leads Clinton among military voters, veterans | TheHill

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294732-poll-trump-leads-clinton-among-military-veteran-voters
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