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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:21 PM Feb 2017

Trump's words come back to bite him in court hearing

As a federal appeals court heard arguments over the validity of President Trump's executive order temporarily banning travel from seven mostly Muslim countries, some of the strongest evidence for his opponents came from the president's own words.

A key argument in the case is whether Trump's executive order violated the Constitution's ban on religious discrimination. Lawyers for the states of Washington and Minnesota have alleged that the order was designed to discriminate against Muslims.

Asked for evidence to support that claim, the lawyer for Washington pointed to "the public statements from the president and his top advisors," which he described as "rather shocking."

Trump called for a "Muslim ban" during his presidential campaign, Noah G. Purcell said. And the day he signed the order, he gave an interview to a Christian television network in which he said he wanted to give priority to Christian refugees.

The evidence indicates that the order was "intended to favor some religious groups over others," Purcell said, which would be a violation of the 1st Amendment's ban on an established religion.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-live-updates-9th-circuit-arguments-trump-s-words-come-back-to-bite-him-in-1486511992-htmlstory.html
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Trump's words come back to bite him in court hearing (Original Post) kpete Feb 2017 OP
Sure would be wonderful if just once tRump's nasty words actually were held against him. manicraven Feb 2017 #1
Blame that so-called Constitution central scrutinizer Feb 2017 #2
The evidence indicates that the order was "intended to favor some religious groups over others," Cha Feb 2017 #3
useless coot. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #7
Noun verb 9/11's words may have been even more damaging malaise Feb 2017 #4
welcome to the court system, drumpf Takket Feb 2017 #5
Yeah, the US Court system is a bit different than a local municipal court... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #11
This made me smile Gothmog Feb 2017 #6
Always trying to have it both ways bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #8
They also tried to blame the press- for quoting Trump and Giuliani!!! The judge shut him up on that, bettyellen Feb 2017 #18
So is there any chance we will get to see his orange head explode Grammy23 Feb 2017 #9
Grammy, thank you saidsimplesimon Feb 2017 #10
unfortunately that is unlikely (that his head will explode) Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #12
but hopefully the grown-ups in the DHS Marthe48 Feb 2017 #13
Suppose the administration continues Bob Loblaw Feb 2017 #16
it would absolutely be "justice" Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #20
wait, so the President is accountable for what he says in public? BuddyCa Feb 2017 #14
which with the exception of Rudy, they have denied it's a "Muslim Ban" which it is. PatrynXX Feb 2017 #15
Of course he sees the court system as un-American. Beartracks Feb 2017 #17
The beauty of it riverwalker Feb 2017 #19

manicraven

(901 posts)
1. Sure would be wonderful if just once tRump's nasty words actually were held against him.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:24 PM
Feb 2017

He's managed to skate through, along with the Deplorables, and not had to face consequences.

Cha

(297,120 posts)
3. The evidence indicates that the order was "intended to favor some religious groups over others,"
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:29 PM
Feb 2017
Purcell said, which would be a violation of the 1st Amendment's ban on an established religion."

'Bout time that useless coot's words came back to bite his fascist ass.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
5. welcome to the court system, drumpf
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:31 PM
Feb 2017

where, unlike your idiot filled campaign rallies, people won't cheer and accept outright bullshit as the truth simply because you said it. here you must embrace every republicans worst nightmare: Fact.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
11. Yeah, the US Court system is a bit different than a local municipal court...
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:54 PM
Feb 2017

suing some luckless contractor Trump's trying to screw. And it's not necessarily about who has the deepest pockets.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. They also tried to blame the press- for quoting Trump and Giuliani!!! The judge shut him up on that,
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:47 PM
Feb 2017

loL

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
9. So is there any chance we will get to see his orange head explode
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

If the court rules against his "ban"?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
10. Grammy, thank you
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:50 PM
Feb 2017

I will respect the court ruling. Herr rump will appeal if it is not in his favour.

I wish Ari Melber was representing US.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
12. unfortunately that is unlikely (that his head will explode)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:06 PM
Feb 2017

it will go to Supreme court... and he may simply defy any ruling

Marthe48

(16,932 posts)
13. but hopefully the grown-ups in the DHS
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

and other government agencies will heed the law. Here's hoping the court doesn't cave.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
16. Suppose the administration continues
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:37 PM
Feb 2017

to appeal lost rulings and the case winds up in front of the Supremes. If that case winds up in a 4-4 tie, the lower court ruling stands. How funny would that be?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
15. which with the exception of Rudy, they have denied it's a "Muslim Ban" which it is.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:26 PM
Feb 2017

and thats what I refer to it as. Even though, I find it to be an anti Christian order 1. Christians are always for refugee's because 2. they would like to at least try to convert them. (try not force them to convert, the ultra right would probably like to force them to convert) Most just try. Thats just how that runs. The same as it is with any other religion. Each trying to convert one another. Some do some don't.

Because if the courts see it as a Muslim Ban, that is illegal hands down. Even though I find the concept of a refugee ban totally pointless and counter productive..

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
17. Of course he sees the court system as un-American.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:44 PM
Feb 2017

But the court system is part-and-parcel with the rule of law, of which Republicans claim to be so fond, and is one of the pillars on which democracy rests.

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riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
19. The beauty of it
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:14 PM
Feb 2017

Is that Guiliani (a former prosecutor) said it while being interviewed by "judge" Jeanine both Trumpsters, both lawyers! Yet they are going to sink his ship.

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