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Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:32 PM Feb 2017

I am a loyal Democrat, but if our party ever nominates a sociopath, I will take a stand.

I fully acknowledge that there are multiple reasons why Trump is President, including sexism, Russian hacking, FBI meddling, and a nationwide effort to disenfranchise voters. But at the end of the day, I really believe that the primary reason is the fact that most Republicans are unprincipled cowards who put winning elections over doing what's best for the country.

I truly believed that Hillary would win, in part, because a measurable number of Republicans would refuse to vote for an unhinged con man who threatened the nation's survival and well-being. That didn't happen. Republicans generally (even if they had to hold their noses) voted for their party's ticket because winning elections was more important to them than standing on their principles and safeguarding the country.

It's essentially a moot point because Democrats would almost certainly never nominate someone so dangerous and unhinged - if anything, we as a party probably err too much on conventional, mainstream candidates - but I do want to go on record as saying that if push ever comes to shove, I will put country ahead of party. The fact that Republicans can't say that anymore is a big deal, and must NEVER be forgotten.

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I am a loyal Democrat, but if our party ever nominates a sociopath, I will take a stand. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Feb 2017 OP
A given. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #1
The GOP didn't want to allow it either BainsBane Feb 2017 #3
For different reasons than a mainstream Democrat would. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #4
different justifications, to be sure BainsBane Feb 2017 #5
Super delegates serve a purpose BainsBane Feb 2017 #2
Me too and I say that to Trashpot lovers. I say "if Trashbag were running as a Dem I would TrekLuver Feb 2017 #6
Closest thing for the Democrats might have been Huey Long MrPurple Feb 2017 #7

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. A given.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:34 PM
Feb 2017

Anything could happen to "the party."

But the people who make up the party, now, wouldnt allow that.

I have said for so long I dont like to remember, that the GOP simply doesnt view democracy or patriotism the same way we do, or the same way it shows in the dictionary.

Theirs is contingent upon their religion and their bigotries.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
3. The GOP didn't want to allow it either
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:36 PM
Feb 2017

But they didn't have a choice. The electorate decided otherwise.

I don't think religion and patriotism mattered nearly as much as blowing up the system, and we have people who often vote Democrat who feel the same way. Some of them even voted for Trump. It's not implausible that a nihilist could win the Democratic nomination as well.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. For different reasons than a mainstream Democrat would.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:39 PM
Feb 2017

I truly believe they only opposed him because he had the baggage of acting like an idiot.

They loved his agenda.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
5. different justifications, to be sure
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:40 PM
Feb 2017

but the overall goal of blowing up the system cuts across party lines.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
2. Super delegates serve a purpose
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:35 PM
Feb 2017

Trump's nomination and then election convinces me that they are an important safeguard.

Never say never. Trump proved anyone, even the worst of the worst, can be elected in this country because ultimately too much of the electorate thinks superficially about politics. It could happen to Democrats too.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
6. Me too and I say that to Trashpot lovers. I say "if Trashbag were running as a Dem I would
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:40 PM
Feb 2017

have to vote Republican because I love my country. And that is the difference between you and me".

MrPurple

(985 posts)
7. Closest thing for the Democrats might have been Huey Long
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:01 PM
Feb 2017

But even if he wasn't killed, he probably wouldn't have knocked off FDR.

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