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highplainsdem

(48,973 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:58 PM Feb 2017

Leaks Suggest Trump's Own Team Is Alarmed By His Conduct

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-administration-leaks_us_589a45f1e4b04061313a1fbb?

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump was confused about the dollar: Was it a strong one that’s good for the economy? Or a weak one?

So he made a call ― except not to any of the business leaders Trump brought into his administration or even to an old friend from his days in real estate. Instead, he called his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, according to two sources familiar with Flynn’s accounts of the incident.

Flynn has a long record in counterintelligence but not in macroeconomics. And he told Trump he didn’t know, that it wasn’t his area of expertise, that, perhaps, Trump should ask an economist instead.

Trump was not thrilled with that response ― but that may have been a function of the time of day. Trump had placed the call at 3 a.m., according to one of Flynn’s retellings ― although neither the White House nor Flynn’s office responded to requests for confirmation about that detail.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ― and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.

Unsurprisingly, Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

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Leaks Suggest Trump's Own Team Is Alarmed By His Conduct (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
Holy fucking shitballs!!!!!! Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2017 #1
its obvious he suffers from mental breakdowns.... sunonmars Feb 2017 #42
Tale a ticket and get on line. no_hypocrisy Feb 2017 #2
I will hold the Republicans personally responsible, annabanana Feb 2017 #3
No way! The Democrats are responsible! Kablooie Feb 2017 #30
you forgot about the SoCalDem Feb 2017 #37
But but but Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #40
I agree Scarsdale Feb 2017 #44
wait -- "the competent... tycoon he portrayed on his 'apprentice' tv reality show"??? unblock Feb 2017 #4
HAH !!!! you just admitted to watching that crap show. groundloop Feb 2017 #18
yes, and i completely blame mrs. unblock. unblock Feb 2017 #28
He should have been required to say... Blanks Feb 2017 #47
yeah. thing is, he never displays anything that makes him look capable. unblock Feb 2017 #48
And total idiot wannabe apprentices who drooled at the vision of themselves lunatica Feb 2017 #61
Trump's business talent is built on sand, he is a pyramid scheme. sunonmars Feb 2017 #41
unfortunately, now he is in a position to embezzle a fortune. unblock Feb 2017 #43
3 a.m.? Xi Jinping would have been wide awake and be happy to help the idget Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #5
Can you imagine how Flynn felt to get a 3 am call from the Pres.? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #52
He probably had a woody thinking we're waist deep in America's latest military quagmire. Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #54
It's like watching Downfall, aka Der Untergang. backscatter712 Feb 2017 #6
who could possibly leak this? A 3am phone call between Flynn and Trump? Smells fishy. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #7
What would be Bannon's purpose in throwing this out on purpose? Amaryllis Feb 2017 #10
More insigificant nonsense talked about rather than Trump's lying to sheriffs KittyWampus Feb 2017 #12
sounds about right. experts in the art of distraction. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #14
Remember the Russians and the election? SCVDem Feb 2017 #29
Flynn complains to someone about it, and that someone either leaks it or tells someone else who tblue37 Feb 2017 #20
Trump would have to have someone do this for him since he can't work the phones. progressoid Feb 2017 #45
Must read more... Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #8
I'm no mental health professional, but it's been obvious for decades spiderpig Feb 2017 #9
He also has delusions... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #63
Yeah, then fucking DO SOMETHING! Cha Feb 2017 #11
It's been only two and a half weeks and already this admin is a laughing stock brush Feb 2017 #13
He doesn't understand the USD? Glimmer of Hope Feb 2017 #15
lol. 3AM call from the President could indicate an actual emergency, ecstatic Feb 2017 #25
Oh yea. He is not really President in my world. Lol.. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2017 #32
Trump calling someone at 3am is nothing more than crank call lunatica Feb 2017 #62
It's not that he doesn't understand the USD, meadowlander Feb 2017 #55
SME Significant Medical Event grantcart Feb 2017 #16
Dammit, when is someone going to go on record Ilsa Feb 2017 #17
What good would that do? RainCaster Feb 2017 #31
Why, might I ask, is anybody surprised?? Blaukraut Feb 2017 #19
NOBODY puts Big Baby in the corner! nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #21
3AM WTF? Flynn probably shit his pants when he looked at the caller ID! ecstatic Feb 2017 #22
They Are Alarmed by His Conduct? Leith Feb 2017 #23
It's just a symptomatic crucible of policy and back-stabbing bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #24
it seems like these bdamomma Feb 2017 #26
"sometimes petty chief executive" Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #27
The massive amount of leaking make this administration fascinating. kwassa Feb 2017 #33
And let's hope . . . OldRedneck Feb 2017 #34
Leaks are usually strategic, though .... kwassa Feb 2017 #36
"I went to the Wharton School of Finance. I'm, like, a really smart person." dalton99a Feb 2017 #35
also has a "good brain"..and "good words" SoCalDem Feb 2017 #38
Loser indeed. Good words, my ass. 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #64
K&R nt Stellar Feb 2017 #39
It's just a matter of time. Nitram Feb 2017 #46
Well they have a firm grasp of the obvious (n/t) Puzzler Feb 2017 #49
I was skimming in a hurry, Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #50
Not exercising, eating fatty burgers w/white buns, overweightinsomnia wordpix Feb 2017 #51
Check your signature, and ask yourself: who was Chief Seattle? romuluszero Feb 2017 #57
Chief Seattle certainly did exist, you ponce. Schema Thing Feb 2017 #58
Except, you know, meadowlander Feb 2017 #66
Hmm some kind of first post, it seems. Welcome to DU. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #67
Isn't Twitler allowed to google? silverweb Feb 2017 #53
"The Dumbest Guys in the Room" n/t Beartracks Feb 2017 #56
But, at least he didn't send emails from a private server NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #59
I'm alarmed by his team's conduct. Progressive dog Feb 2017 #60
He meant to ask "Is a strong dollar good for Russia's economy?" McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #65

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
42. its obvious he suffers from mental breakdowns....
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:38 AM
Feb 2017

This whole up all night making tweets ranting and phone calls is basically a cry for help, his subconcious is basically screaming "Help me".

This is not going to end well.

They could manage it when he was a TV person and could hide behind cameras, he cant hide now and i suspect a very public mental break will happen soon.

This will end in resignation or the 25th getting enacted.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
3. I will hold the Republicans personally responsible,
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:01 PM
Feb 2017

each and every one of them, for each day they heedlessly allow him, even encourage him, to dismantle America.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
44. I agree
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:37 AM
Feb 2017

They are putting in people who will destroy this country. After they get Sessions and a few other unqualified goons in place, THEN they will decide tRump has to go. His mental state was obvious to most of us, even Putin knew and he used him like a puppet.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
4. wait -- "the competent... tycoon he portrayed on his 'apprentice' tv reality show"???
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

anyone who saw that show even once would know that he portrays a horrendous manager who sows discord and conflict in his team, encourages back-stabbing, rewards lying, and is pleased with those who "win" by any means.

although everyone on the show was for some reason begging to win and work for him, it's obvious that he'd be a horrible person to actually work for. he made basic, textbook management mistakes all over the place.


decisive, ok, i'll give him that. but competent? *no f------ way*.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
28. yes, and i completely blame mrs. unblock.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:21 AM
Feb 2017


she watches most of those so-called reality game shows.

mostly i just like sitting next to her and playing games on my phone, surfing du, etc.

but, yeah, can't help but take in some of the crap that's on.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
48. yeah. thing is, he never displays anything that makes him look capable.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:05 PM
Feb 2017

contrast this to gordon ramsey on hell's kitchen. sure, much of what ramsey does could easily be Hollywood fakery. we obviously can't taste or smell the food, so other than visual cues, we have to take his word as to judgment. who's to say if there's not enough salt, e.g.

but at least there are occasional moments where ramsey is giving very specific cooking advice. not saying it's brilliant advice, but at least he's showing some kind of actual expert knowledge.


donnie never seemed to do *any* of that on the apprentice. praise the winners, knock the losers, get the people arguing, then fire one of the losers. that's it. he never seemed to shed any light on how to better run a business or anything.

so, yeah. not only pretend billionaire, but pretend executive, too.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
61. And total idiot wannabe apprentices who drooled at the vision of themselves
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:51 PM
Feb 2017

as billionaires. I never watched it but hear Amarosa is a real villain and got famous for being really nasty to everyone just to win.

It's the same for those who went to his university. Droolers all of them.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
41. Trump's business talent is built on sand, he is a pyramid scheme.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:34 AM
Feb 2017

He basically knows nothing but bluster and fronting on camera, this is all going to go to shit really quickly once the curtains are drawn back, he is close to exposure and he knows it, his psyche is going break the dam soon.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
43. unfortunately, now he is in a position to embezzle a fortune.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 08:50 AM
Feb 2017

if the media was capable of actual investigative journalism and responsible coverage, the campaign would have been very different and we wouldn't be in this situation.

but as it is, donnie can milk his office for enough to make himself solvent and then some.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
52. Can you imagine how Flynn felt to get a 3 am call from the Pres.?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:12 PM
Feb 2017

He would assume, naturally enough, that it was about a crisis.

Brother Buzz

(36,419 posts)
54. He probably had a woody thinking we're waist deep in America's latest military quagmire.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:31 PM
Feb 2017

Where will it be? North Korea? Iran? California? Anything’s possible with Commander Cuckoo-Bananas in charge.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. It's like watching Downfall, aka Der Untergang.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:13 PM
Feb 2017

That movie's famous for the widely re-subtitled Hitler rant, but the whole movie is worth watching, just to see Hitler completely out of touch with reality and sanity.

Yes, Lord Dampnut reminds me of that...

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. who could possibly leak this? A 3am phone call between Flynn and Trump? Smells fishy.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:18 PM
Feb 2017

I think it's bullsh*t.

And I think Bannon throws this crap out on purpose.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
20. Flynn complains to someone about it, and that someone either leaks it or tells someone else who
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:57 PM
Feb 2017

leaks it.

It could happen.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
45. Trump would have to have someone do this for him since he can't work the phones.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:49 AM
Feb 2017

And talk of a call to Flynn at 3 a.m. would raise a lot of flags and people would notice.

It's not implausible.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
9. I'm no mental health professional, but it's been obvious for decades
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:26 PM
Feb 2017

that this clown has delusions of grandeur and a dangerous attitude of entitlement.

He is also illiterate, crude and disgusting.

He's also a compulsive liar.

As much as we criticize DC, I'm absolutely gobsmacked that this idiot is in the Oval Office. And I lived through Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes.

brush

(53,771 posts)
13. It's been only two and a half weeks and already this admin is a laughing stock
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:45 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:02 AM - Edit history (1)

The travel ban, Devos, the glaringly incompetent plagiarist is the Education Secretary, a white supremacist is a top advisor and is on the

NSC, The trump ok'd Yemen raid was a tragic debacle that resulted in some 30 people dead, a known racist has been nominated to

SCOTUS, he's fallen out the presidents of Mexico and Australia, the the British parliament has refuse to let him address the body,

Chancellor Angela Merkel had to explain the Geneva Conventions to him, his admin misspelled British PM Theresa May's name he's holed

up alone in the White House at night as it's pretty apparent that his wife doesn't want to be with him (DC undoubtedly has great private

schools for her son). . . God, WTF is next?

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
15. He doesn't understand the USD?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:46 PM
Feb 2017

I am still baffled that some think he is intelligent. He is far from it. And who picks up the phone at 3am? That is just wacky.

ecstatic

(32,688 posts)
25. lol. 3AM call from the President could indicate an actual emergency,
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:13 AM
Feb 2017

so yeah, Flynn was pretty much forced to pick up. lol

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
62. Trump calling someone at 3am is nothing more than crank call
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:53 PM
Feb 2017

The question is, how will he read when he gets the 3am call.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
55. It's not that he doesn't understand the USD,
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:37 PM
Feb 2017

it's that his first impulse when he doesn't know something isn't to Google it and learn something. It's to call a random person he trusts and get them to explain it to him/make the decision for him.

This is why he's so easy to manipulate.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
19. Why, might I ask, is anybody surprised??
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:56 PM
Feb 2017

Trump went out of his way to show the world that he is, at best, incompetent, and at worst, insane. His parasites were well aware from the beginning. My guess would be they thought they could 'manage' him. Well, evidently, nobody manages Trump.

ecstatic

(32,688 posts)
22. 3AM WTF? Flynn probably shit his pants when he looked at the caller ID!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:00 AM
Feb 2017

Only to realize it was a call about the US Dollar? You know things are bad when even crazy Flynn is talking trash and gossiping.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
23. They Are Alarmed by His Conduct?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:00 AM
Feb 2017

What the hell took them so long? The guy has been looney tunes for decades.

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
24. It's just a symptomatic crucible of policy and back-stabbing
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:11 AM
Feb 2017

They have no liberal or progressive opposition to work against
so the anger and bitterness has to go somewhere

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
26. it seems like these
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:15 AM
Feb 2017

"leaks" are consistently coming out to inform us that this man/child is not well at all. He is definitely off the rails. I really think it is a matter of time before he has a meltdown or psychotic episode.

Too bad they couldn't all go to Russia and leave us alone.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
33. The massive amount of leaking make this administration fascinating.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:06 AM
Feb 2017

There is zero loyalty among the new staffers. I've never seen anything like this. I live in the DC area, know many people who have been heavily involved in the political scene here. Including a close friend who worked in the Clinton White House for years.

This is unprecedented and unpredictable. Completely new territory.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
34. And let's hope . . .
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:36 AM
Feb 2017

. . . they keep it up!!!

The Trump Freak Show does not understand that the national sport of DC is NOT football, hockey, basketball, or soccer -- it's LEAKING . . . and damn near everyone in DC is a world class leaker!!!

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
36. Leaks are usually strategic, though ....
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:43 AM
Feb 2017

and there is nothing at all strategic about his. It more an expression of shock and dismay.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
64. Loser indeed. Good words, my ass.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 10:47 PM
Feb 2017

His vocabulary is pathetically limited.

I had a 6 yr old patient a couple of days ago who was learnedly discussing the meanings of transparent, translucent and opaque. I'd like to see SCROTUS do that.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
50. I was skimming in a hurry,
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:31 PM
Feb 2017

and misread the OP title as "Leaks Suggest Trump Is Alarmed By His Own Conduct."

I guess that may be next week's leak.

 

romuluszero

(23 posts)
57. Check your signature, and ask yourself: who was Chief Seattle?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:46 PM
Feb 2017

Chief Seattle never even existed lol, look it up under:
white appropriation
"Seattle's letter" written by white dude, no joke
sorry for my 1st post

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
58. Chief Seattle certainly did exist, you ponce.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:29 PM
Feb 2017


His famous speech has been rewritten and was never adequately transcribed, so we don't know exactly what was said - but it was very much a real thing.


meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
66. Except, you know,
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 03:54 AM
Feb 2017

we have a photo of him and his descendants still live in Washington. I met some of them on a school trip in the 80s. He only died 150 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Seattle

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
67. Hmm some kind of first post, it seems. Welcome to DU.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017
Chief Seattle (c. 1786 – June 7, 1866) was a Suquamish Tribe (Suquamish) and Dkhw'Duw'Absh (Duwamish) chief.[2] A prominent figure among his people, he pursued a path of accommodation to white settlers, forming a personal relationship with "Doc" Maynard. The city of Seattle, in the U.S. state of Washington, was named after him. A widely publicized speech arguing in favor of ecological responsibility and respect of Native Americans' land rights had been attributed to him. However, what he actually said has been lost through translation and rewriting.

The name Seattle is an anglicization of the modern Duwamish conventional spelling Si'ahl, equivalent to the modern Lushootseed spelling siʔaɫ IPA: [ˈsiʔaːɬ]. He is also known as Sealth, Seathle, Seathl, or See-ahth.


1864:

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
53. Isn't Twitler allowed to google?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 01:12 PM
Feb 2017

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Oh, wait... that would require reading and comprehension of words.

Nevermind.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
60. I'm alarmed by his team's conduct.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

Most of them are trying to destroy the US government in league with the psychopath in chief. Anything that slows them is good.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
65. He meant to ask "Is a strong dollar good for Russia's economy?"
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:09 PM
Feb 2017

Flynn being one of Putin's folks, I am sure Trump thought he would know.

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