You know who's never complained that people were mean to them?

[ehrnst]

Link to tweet

Hillary fucking Clinton.

[vlyons]

1. and Barack Obama

n/t

[Cha]

4. And, Barack.. both strong and focused.

[former9thward]

18. What?

Obama made many complaints about right wing radio which he said was stopping his agenda.

[nikibatts]

21. He was talking about RW pundits...they aren't "people."

[former9thward]

23. Really?

What are they? Robots? Martians?

[BlueJac]

27. Ass holes.

[Tanuki]

32. You never miss an opportunity. eom

[maddiemom]

37. Where to even start...?

Obama's "complaints' were justified in that right wingers and their pet media personalities were vicious about him and disagreed with ANY of his policies , even if they'd previously supported them if they'd come from a Republican. BUT he NEVER whined or cried or took things to a personal level...even though they were VERY personal. The despicable Mitch McConnell bragged about obstructing him; NOT considering his individual polices, just opposing him as a person.

[maddiemom]

39. Oh.maybe he did so to Trump a few times with his characteristic intelligence and humor.

[louis-t]

43. Obama never whined.

Clinton never whined. EOM.

[LanternWaste]

38. I think you're consciously conflating criticism and complaining

I think you're consciously conflating simple criticism and complaining to suit your rather consistent narrative. Unless of course, you'd like to pretend they are in fact, one and the same.

[Maru Kitteh]

41. Calling them out for being obstructionist assholes & bad for the country does NOT

equal boo hoo hoo, Alec Baldwin is soooo mean. . . . SNL is sooooo mean . . . . NYT is soooooo mean

But ya know, nice try and everything.

[former9thward]

44. Purely depending on politics people change their definitions of "complaining".

[Maru Kitteh]

48. I don't recall using the word "complaining"

It's a difference between the childish, self-centered malignant narcissism of Trump's ceaseless boo-hoo-hoos and whining that people/entities are being mean to HIM PERSONALLY - vs. every other president that has held the office voicing complaint that an entity is obstructing an agenda or policy they argue is favorable to the nation.

BTW, you say "Purely depending on politics people change their definitions of 'complaining[sic]'." This being Democratic Underground, the people here are largely Democrats. It's a site for Democrats, to promote Democrats. Your statement seems to impugn the "politics" of Democrats here.

[former9thward]

58. Please look at the title of this thread.

You may find the word.

[Hekate]

54. I never hear anyone older than 14 whine that people were "unfair" to them all the time, until Trump

Criticisms in an adult tone of voice about factual occurences -- that would be Barack Obama. Pointing out the truth.

Trump's attitude is that of a child that doesn't get what it wants right effing now. Mommy and daddy and teacher are just so unfair.

[yardwork]

62. Obama was correct. Right wing lies.

[erpowers]

29. Can You Imagine Trump Doing Something Like That

I have seen the photo in you tagline before, but it was not until this morning that I thought, that photo is so sweet and I cannot imagine Donald Trump holding a child like President Obama is in that photo.

[Cha]

34. Never.. I bet kids hate him. They have good instincts.

[Abu Pepe]

57. Yep nt

[Cha]

2. That's right.. A stand up Woman who heard all the brainwashed garbage coming

her way and kept on fighting for us.

Thank you, ehrnst!

Link to tweet

[Maru Kitteh]

42. Have a heart Cha! Happy V-Day!

[Cha]

60. Mahalo, Maru!

[doc03]

3. Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? I am not saying there wasn't one. nt

[LuvLoogie]

7. THAT was a warning...

and nobody listened until it was too late.

[doc03]

10. Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex

nobody listened to that either.

[ehrnst]

9. That wasn't complaining about "meanness" any more than "Russia is interfering with our elections" is

[former9thward]

20. Then you are changing the conventional meaning of "complaining" to your own specific meaning.

[joshcryer]

22. IMO she wasn't playing victim when she said that.

And indeed, all the shit she's gone through she didn't play victim.

[ehrnst]

25. To be clear - it's not my tweet.

But no, she didn't complain about people "being mean" to her. She acknowledged a smear campaign - which was true.

Comrade Casino and crew is complaining that SNL is being "mean" that "criticism is demoralizing to him."

No, Hillary never said that criticism or satire of her was "mean," if that is the hair you want to split.

Link to tweet

[mcar]

30. That wasn't complaining, that was speaking the truth

[BainsBane]

49. She was defending her husband

not herself.

[VOX]

5. No recollection of JFK having done that, either.

Or Jimmy Carter.

[tenorly]

8. That's right. It's almost always these Republicans.

The self-righteous are always touchy.

[Cosmocat]

11. SNOWFLAKES!

I want to just rip the heads off of these twits back slapping themselves over calling us snowflakes while going into hysterics over how cartoon movies are secrete global warming or gay marriage propaganda, balling about Hollywood and being all outraged over Kaepernick, on and on and on and on ...

I have this "non-partisan" hs classmate who loses his shit on me constantly on Facebook who always saddles up with the conservatives slamming the liberals while screaming how I am the reason for Trump because I am so mean to conservatives.

[tenorly]

15. Most Republicans, you'll find, are hypocrites at heart.

The kind that rail against "minorities on welfare" - and then grow up to be cheats and even grifters themselves.

The kind that extol "the power of the free market" and the "makers" - while relying on the ol' boy network and other unethical advantages at every turn (if they can).

The kind that bemoan the "gay agenda" - while being gay or least bi themselves, often having double lives as adults (this describes many GOP politicians in particular).

The kind that lash out against "femi-Nazis" - while being abusive toward women in their own lives.

And so on.

Point all this out to them the next time they go on the attack, Cosmocat. It drives them crazy.

[joshcryer]

24. Almost all of local government is Republican.

Just ask anyone who works in your local government how they feel about, say, food stamps, and they will rail against poor people. As they get paid with taxpayer dollars, and have a nice cushy government pension and health benefits.

They are the definition of cronyism.

[tenorly]

26. Handouts for me; but not for thee.

Both sides engage in patronage and cultivate cronies, sure. But nothing comes close in this country as far as state cronyism as does the MIC - almost all Republicans.

The only kind that does comes close (though privately-funded), is the massive lobbyopolis that has developed around the Washington Beltway and many state capitals over the last 50 years. Corporate lobbyists throw money at both parties, sure; but they definitely have a favorite.

Between the two, they add up to a veritable crony state-within-a-state - the very thing the Founding Fathers tried to prevent.

[dubyadiprecession]

31. That is so true, many of them are conservative union members.

When their union endorses Hillary, they end up doing the opposite at the ballot box.

These are the confused and very sad people in our electorate.

[Ezior]

12. Those Snowflakes!

Everything is upside down with some right wingers...

Same in Germany btw. The current Putin-/Trump-loving right wing party is a cry baby, always complaining about fake news (Lügenpresse) and libtards (linksgrünversiffte Gutmenschen).

[tenorly]

19. Wilkommen zu DU, Ezior.

Great having someone with first-hand experience from abroad - particularly from an important nation such as Germany.

Perhaps you can enlighten me: what really holds the grand coalition that has kept Merkel in power together, and what are its prospects for the near future?

Tchuß!

[betsuni]

6. K&R

[Cha]

13. Remember trump calling her names and insulting her in the debates.. "nasty woman"?

Link to tweet

[retrowire]

16. *slow clap* nt

[barbtries]

17. ...

[erpowers]

28. I Disagree

Although I like and respect Hillary Clinton I believe she did complain about people being mean to her. She did not complain to the level of Donald Trump, but she did point out that some did not treat her fairly. President Obama complained about how Fox News treated him, but for he most part he did not complain about being treated unfairly, or about people being mean to him. I will also say that Bernie Sanders did not complain about people being mean to him although he claimed the DNC primaries were rigged in Hillary Clinton's favor. I am not a Sanders supporter; I am just trying to call things as I see them.

[Glitterati]

33. Exactly correct

Hillary complained about the "vast right wing conspiracy" against her for years and years.

So, I have to agree with you here.

[ehrnst]

35. Pointing out a conspiracy is no more 'complaining" than pointing out Russian involvement

in the election.

[BainsBane]

50. That was against her husband

Not her.

[ehrnst]

36. I believe that what Bernie said about the DNC was and is complaining.

Same goes for his staff.


Hillary has never complained about "meanness" toward her, even though she has been pilloried by those on the left.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

40. It's not that HRC never complained. it's that she didn't pick strange and soft targets to complain

about. Complaining about GOP being unrelenting is one thing. Complaining about SNL and Nordstrom is another.

some people are taking this too literally

[nikibatts]

45. I do believe that both Bill and Hillary are fairly classy in the political sphere.

I remember "trailer trash" "robot hips" Crooked Hillary Lock Her Up

The basked of deplorables was not complaining about personal attacks but rather about deplorable behavior of Trump supporters toward anyone opposed to Trump.

[BainsBane]

51. As far as I know, Trump and Palin

are the only ones to do that crap.

Trump complains how countries all around the world "exploit" the US. It's the same mentality that allows a white male billionaire to play victim.

[BlueMTexpat]

46. We've been spoiled by having

actual adults like Hillary and Barack as role models.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

47. And Michelle Obama

I know technically that she isn't a politician but she was FLOTUS and wingers said some rather nasty and despicable things about her during the past 8 years. Don't really remember her complaining, whining, or attacking the deplorables.

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. And for 18 months there was no shortage of attacks of her everywhere in social media

She has been the target of an orchestrated rightwing conspiracy to accomplish exactly what was accomplished, to destroy her politically.

Like obstructing Obama, it did not matter if destroying her also destroyed the country, not to them.

[Boomerproud]

59. More like 25 years (starting in 1992)-but I'm not arguing your point.

Yes, the haters were hyper-successful to the detriment of us all, for generations to come.

[Eliot Rosewater]

61. Actually I have talked about that for years, it was an actual conspiracy.

Hillary only had to sneeze the wrong way to be rejected, Fuckface Von Pussygrabber can destroy the human race and they will still love him.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

53. Retweeted that last night. This really is just upside down world now.

Hillary is crooked? Have you brainwashed tools not seen what this despotic clown and his crew have been doing, and I don't just mean now!

[nolabear]

55. Proud 100th rec.

[MontanaMama]

56. Damn straight.

HRC is bad ass!