Trump endorsed civil asset forfeiture amazing exchange--meet up with County Sheriffs...

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Lots of transcript from this meeting below.





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Trump Gives Thumbs-Up To Cops Taking More Stuff Away From People
The president endorsed civil asset forfeiture, which lets police seize even innocent people’s property.



02/07/2017 06:43 pm ET | Updated 14 hours ago


Ryan J. Reilly Senior Justice Reporter, The Huffington Post





WASHINGTON ― During a meeting with sheriffs on Tuesday, President Donald Trump got a misleading lesson on the controversial practice of asset forfeiture. Almost immediately, Trump encouraged the sheriffs to use it more aggressively.

Asset forfeiture is a hugely lucrative weapon in the law enforcement arsenal, allowing cops to seize property from both criminals and suspected criminals and direct those proceeds into their department coffers. Although police officials often claim they’re just “taking money from drug dealers,” that’s a drastic over-simplification.

In fact, using civil asset forfeiture, the government can seize cash and property from people who have never been charged with crimes, and then force them to engage in legal battles to prove their innocence and recover their assets.

Critics across the political spectrum have come out against civil forfeiture in recent years. They say it infringes on people’s due process and property rights and gives law enforcement monetary incentive to engage in bad practices.

But none of those critics appeared to be at the table with Trump, acting Attorney General Dana Boente and a group of sheriffs who are largely supportive of Trump.

The president’s full comments on asset forfeiture are worth examining.

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THE PRESIDENT: Good. Asset forfeiture. You’re encouraged. Okay.

It’s clear that Trump hasn’t thought much, if at all, about this issue. It’s also clear that a large group of law enforcement officers chose not to explain to him what the criticisms are.

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Miller added, “We would hope that if the president knew how much civil forfeiture gets abused across the country, he wouldn’t have made those remarks.”

Boente will likely soon be replaced in the attorney general’s office by Jeff Sessions, who has also been supportive of asset forfeiture.

[JHan]

1. And his AG agrees.

[dalton99a]

2. This is a must read.

[FSogol]

3. Someone thinks Trump would be against it if he knew about abuse? Trumpy wants his cut.

Why do so many people give that fucker the benefit of doubt?

[Zoonart]

4. Great!

First civil asset forfeiture...next boxcars.

[raging moderate]

5. Civil forfeiture of innocent people' things is unconstitutional.

Amendment IV: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

I notice that, in recent years, there are fewer people around who understand what I was taught in grade school, that the use of the word "shall" instead of the third person verb "will" confers the imperative mood of command upon the sentence.

[Tanuki]

6. He is also a big fan of ripping off property through "eminent domain"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/431005/trump-eminent-domain?client=ms-android-att-us



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/19/donald-trumps-abuse-of-eminent-domain/?client=ms-android-att-us

[dembotoz]

7. to bad the blade does not cut both ways...i understand there are a number of subcontractors who

were never paid for contracted work that would love to seize them a piece of a trump tower

[riversedge]

9. Good thought.

[SHRED]

8. Share this with all your Libertarian friends

[anarch]

10. how about if we just make it "legal" for whoever is better armed to take what they want

from whomever else? Why not?

That seems in line with the "conservative" agenda...everyone for themselves.

[PufPuf23]

11. Broad civil asset forfeiture should not be allowed and asset forfeiture allowed under

most stringent conditions.

Asset forfeiture should not be a direct means to financing law enforcement, moral hazard reigns then.

[logosoco]

12. This sounds like he is preparing to ramp up the "war on drugs"

because that made America so great before