Terrorism? Here's Terrorism: Man Sentenced To 30 Years For Fire At Mosque

[MineralMan]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/florida-mosque-fire-30-years-conviction

Man Sentenced To 30 Years For Fire At Mosque Tied To Orlando Nightclub Shooter

An ex-convict who investigators say confessed to setting fire to a Florida mosque tied to the Orlando nightclub shooter has been sentenced to 30 years in prison.

Thirty-two-year-old Joseph Schneider pleaded no contest to second-degree arson during Monday's hearing in Fort Pierce. A no contest plea is treated the same as a guilty plea.

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Schreiber set the fire at the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce last Sept. 11, the 15th anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks. No one was injured in the fire. Pulse nightclub shooter Omar Mateen sometimes attended the mosque.

Last July, Schreiber, who is Jewish, posted on Facebook that "All Islam is radical" and that all Muslims should be treated as terrorists and criminals.

There's a terrorist act, and it had nothing to do with refugees from any of the seven countries Trump has listed in his ban. It was apparently in response to another act of terrorism, again perpetrated by someone who was also not from any of those countries.

We do have a problem with terrorism in the United States, but it is homegrown terrorism. We have plenty of our own terrorists, and yet not a single person has been killed in a terrorist act committed by anyone coming from one of those seven countries.

We need to look at things as they are, rather than as Trump thinks they are. Trump is wrong. It is that simple.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. ITA

We do have a problem with terrorism in the United States, but it is homegrown terrorism. We have plenty of our own terrorists, and yet not a single person has been killed in a terrorist act committed by anyone coming from one of those seven countries.

We need to look at things as they are, rather than as Trump thinks they are. Trump is wrong. It is that simple

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Amen.

Adding we need more of this: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/19-rabbis-arrested-trump-hotel-protest-travel-ban-article-1.2965970

I would love to see the Jewish and Muslim communities in America come together. Those Rabbis 'get' it. They get it.

They get it because they have been the target of it. They continue to be the target of it.


If there is a Jewish Muslim Interfaith march on Washington? I would attend. Just to say - it's just your faith. The worst do not represent you. And I 'see' what is happening to you both in this country.

[MineralMan]

2. It's not unusual for terrorists to have strong religious beliefs.

What religion they profess is irrelevant. All religions today reject violence and terrorism. That, however, does not stop zealots from committing terrorist acts. Indeed people who are devoutly religious are sometimes of a mindset that sees everything as black and white. the Imams in the mosque, the Rabbis, and the Ministers of Christianity all preach peace in their houses of worship. At least the vast majority of them do.

And yet, there are people who look at their religious belief as a sort of reason to do evil things. Such people are not well. They do not understand what the religion teaches. They only have their zealotry to guide them, and it often guides them toward violent acts. They are misguided.

And yet, when a religious zealot becomes a terrorist, people of other religions all to often blame the religion that zealot espouses as the reason for their violent acts. That's nonsense, of course, but it's easy.

Most people who profess a religion are not at all political about their beliefs. It is simply their religion. We can tell nothing about a person's likelihood to become violent through knowledge of what religion that person professes. It's irrelevant.

It seems we are always looking for an easy answer to our questions. Often, the easy answers are woefully incorrect.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Except for us UU's

We will 'potluck supper' you to death! Death to your weight loss program! (sorry Unitarian joke :chuckle

Also - we hug a lot at church.

[MineralMan]

4. Well, see, clearly the UU Fellowship isn't "really" Christian.

Real Christian churches are different, it seems. At least some of them are.