If HRC was president, we would not be talking about Jeff Sessions as AG

[La Lioness Priyanka]

and Coretta Scott King's words would not have been silenced in the Senate.

We would not have confirmed someone for Education Secretary who hates everything good about public education.

Maybe some people need this kind of turmoil to feel woke, but I am woke AF. I don't need other people's rights taken away to feel woke.



Woke = socially aware and active
AF = as fuck

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. You are absolutely right, my dear Lioness Priyanka!

None of these horrors would have happened and the country would be in a much better place as a result.

The saddest words are these: What might have been.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. yup

[metroins]

3. If HRC had won, we'd all be talking happy thoughts

About better Healthcare, better education, increased wages and less controversy/turmoil.

Right now I'm scared about my Healthcare, a little worried about education. My wages are fine either way.

I know one thing, I'm terrified of a real World War now.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

4. i too am terrified of a world war

there are so many sensitive areas in the world and DJT cannot even talk to our allies without aggravating them. let alone sensitive areas of the world.

[SidDithers]

5. ...

Sid

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. i know. i hear the WH is on gmail now.

so much more secure

[betsuni]

16. This will NEVER get old.

[StevieM]

23. The entire fake email scandal was like something out of a really bad Hollywood movie. (eom)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. more like a bad indy movie. benghazi was more hollywood.

[Squinch]

6. If HRC was president I wouldn't be worried about an old age lived in poverty

because of the talk of a "National Right to Work" law that will gut my union and probably destroy my pension.

If HRC was president, I would be excited for the children in the 5 schools I work in, rather than terrified for them.

If HRC was president, states wouldn't be proposing legislation that would allow men to sue women if they have abortions - including rapists.

I could go on. If I think about it too much it could bring me to my knees to realize what we have thrown away by not getting behind the best candidate the Democratic party has ever put up.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. ..

[Squinch]

9. .

[NCTraveler]

10. K&R nt

[flygal]

11. I now hear from friends DAILY!

People are really upset and it's hitting them every single day. People need to talk to others who understand. It was so nice to do a unity march last weekend. I'm ready for another and seriously looking at DC for the science march on earth day.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. have you read the piece on collective trauma?

https://qz.com/889753/trump-inauguration-collective-trauma/

[flygal]

18. Interesting - thank you for the link.

I have news podcasts from the day after the election I am just now curious to go listen to (On Point, Fresh Air) but since 11/8 I couldn't listen to news until last week. It was definitely a shock to my system and I had to push it aside and move on for my kids' sake.

[mcar]

13. Yep

I wish I was on Earth 2 with President Hillary.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. ME TOO!!!

[betsuni]

15. It's an enormous tragic waste.

I've developed a nervous tick in my left eyelid. I had a nightmare about that Bannon monster last night. He was leading a group of people dressed as clowns and from a distance it seemed like a parade, but when they got closer you could see that the clowns were hideous and frightening, they carried weapons. If there's not a war we'll be incredibly lucky.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. try to do some meditation or progressive muscle relaxation before bed

you're going to need the rest

[betsuni]

21. Shouldn't see news right before bed.

Was reading "Primary Colors" last night so politics was on my mind I guess.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. yeah. generally best to stay away from electronics a half hour before bed.

i turn everything on airplane mode and just read.

[Blue_true]

17. The Stein and Johnson voters don't care.

It is all about them getting total capitulation on their few hot button issues, to hell with Blacks, immigrants, Muslims, LGBTQ Americans or women in general.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. or the voters who maligned her through the entire process and then said things like

'i had to hold my nose to vote for her'

they were not helpful then, and they are not helpful now

[Blue_true]

24. The problem is some people aligned with our party

Can't have anything nice. They complained about President Obama after the Shrub disaster.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. unlike conservative who actually work hard to get their utopia

many in our party do not and appear every four years to tell us how we are doing it wrong.

in the meanwhile, they may blog about it, but i wonder if they change a single heart or mind in a more leftward direction

[Blue_true]

27. That is one thing that I envy about the right.

When their core beliefs (it the stuff that go through their heads can be considered beliefs) are endangered, they fall inline to protect them, regardless of whether they are conservative, hopelessly nutcase, tea party, they fall online to protect their gains. Us, we face purity tests and other BS when we are all staring into the face of imminent and pure evil.

[butdiduvote]

28. I'm tired of this narrative about us "needing this."

I promise you a country run by HRC with fewer woke people is a lot better for marginalized people than a country full of newly woke people but ultimately governed by tRump and Co.

These people just wanted to sidestep Hillary because they held a petty grudge against her. They want their liberal progress without Hillary Clinton's name anywhere on it, so they keep shoving down our throats the idea that this was actually a good outcome in the long run. Sorry, I remain unconvinced. Some of them even outright say, "Well, the good part about this is we don't have to have Hillary as our president!" Fuck 'em. There is nothing good about this. We didn't need this. We needed Hillary's steady leadership.

...back to researching which mental health professionals are covered by my at-risk insurance because I need support in coping with this administration that these privileged fuckers try to tell me is what I "needed."

[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. SO FUCKING TRUE!!!

[Jamaal510]

98. +2

[spanone]

29. none of these bozo's would be on the bus...rick perry? ben carson? devos?

and the world would be a much safer place.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

41. +1

[Tatiana]

30. Obviously. But now we're all screwed.

I'm just waiting for the idiots that voted for this mess (of didn't vote to keep us out of this mess) to get what's coming to them.

[WhiteTara]

63. Unfortunately, we are all getting what

is due "them."

[madaboutharry]

31. We might be talking about

Attorney General Jennifer Granholm.

It is so sad, it all makes me want to cry.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

39. me too. I kinda think she would have appointed Gillibrand to a high profile position too

i think HRC is HIGHLY invested in Gillibrand.

[Mr.Bill]

32. If McConnell was still the majority leader and

HRC had been elected, there would be no cabinet members approved at all.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

36. no movement is better than regressive movement.

the status quo that held under OBama is much better than the shit we are getting here

[Sgent]

76. So all of Obama's would have stayed

in place until she got new ones.

[Mr.Bill]

89. If they chose to do so, I suppose.

[jmg257]

33. IF only, if only...

[Sissyk]

34. This.

ELECTIONS MATTER!!

It gets worse everyday. And, he told us that.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. Yup

[LexVegas]

37. Yup.

Rec.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

38. ..

[LexVegas]

40. ...

[cwydro]

43. Thank you Pri.

Well said.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

44. we bullies gotta bully

lol.

[cwydro]

87. Oh indeed we do.

Funny that we're still here and never departed for the land of JPR, which certain posters boasted of doing again and again.

[Baconator]

45. In that same line...

... if we'd had a stronger candidate, they would have been able to win.

It keeps going back and back and back...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. a stronger candidate would have won a primary, instead of losing a primary

[Baconator]

54. ... and a deeper pool of candidates might have led to a stronger winner.

I'm not laying blame. I'm saying that the 'what if' is infinitely regressive.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. Sure. Some invisible other person could have withstood fake news, attacks from the FBI

and the Russian hacks.

[Baconator]

57. Yes...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

58. well in that case i hope in the future, these people run and win the primary

i personally have high hopes for Gillibrand and Kamala Harris and Booker

[La Lioness Priyanka]

55. LOL

[LanternWaste]

67. Another 'after this therefor because of this' fallacy.

Another 'after this therefor because of this' fallacy.

It keeps happening and happening...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

72. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc

a phrase i learn thru watching west wing, and oddly not in my graduate social science classes

[pnwmom]

74. If there were a stronger candidate, that person would have beaten Hillary.

And even then that person would have been up against Putin and the FBI, who were determined to help DT.

[JI7]

97. the only stronger candidate was Obama and even his race with Clinton was close

Clinton was a very strong candidate and Obama was a far stronger candidate that he should have gotten more support than he did.

but we have issues with racism, sexism etc where certain people who are not straight white christian males are held to different standards.

just look at the republicans that are election to congress across the country.

[JI7]

99. Obama DID win and the same people who shit on him throughout his presidency

are the ones who refused to support Clinton and attacked her.

so fuck them. the same fucking ones who pushed nader in 2000.

[JHan]

46. It bears repeating over and over..K& R.... also..

we know if HRC were Prez, we'd have still gotten complaints about who is a centrist in her cabinet.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

49. yup, if she tapped Heitkamp for something, we'd never hear the end of that.

[otohara]

48. No Worldwide Protests

costing cities much needed funds for other shit.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

50. and that is the least of it

[coco22]

51. Rinse repeat,over and over..

So how is this going to help..now what are we suppose do to go back in time?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

52. let's not sink our next presidential candidate with false equivalence, made up scandals

and hashtags on twitter that were sexist as shit

let's not pretend our candidate was the same as the GOP candidate. let's not pretending voting the huckster Jill Stein had any moral worth

[coco22]

75. Agreed..

Fuck Jill Stein..

[Sgent]

77. I love your optimism

I thought no one would ever vote third party again after 2000.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

85. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

59. People who understood what was at stake, knew this. Even if we weren't 100% behind everything

Hillary Clinton wanted, it was still infinitely better voting her in than giving this *45 clown a chance to enter the White House.

I wished more people understood that. Instead, we had millionaires attacking Hillary Clinton using Republican and RW lies to do so. She was horribly attacked from both flanks and anywhere on the scale from the center-right. I am proud I stood with her, supported her, donated to her, and spread the word among my voting group with her. Unfortunately, Putin's puppet, Jill Stein, was as nasty as tRump and the a-political voters who don't know how our gov't works (with the single most important rule being, you have to win elections first and foremost!) decided to protest Hillary Clinton by voting 3rd Party, writing in a name (guaranteeing that their ballot was tossed), or not voting at all which is the equivalent to casting a vote for tRump.

Now we're here, just three weeks into *45's presidency, and already he's destroyed so much and has done so with tacit but obvious support from the GOP in Congress.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

60. agreed.

[EffieBlack]

61. Yes, but Hillary had emails or something. So it's a wash. Nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

62. absolutely. i mean email protocol vs white supremacy, you always gotta go with email protocol

[Orsino]

64. We would not have confirmed anyone, not with a GOP Senate majority.

But not such a big deal with Obama appointees in place.

I doubt McConnell's other face would be complaining about a Supreme Court vacancy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

65. that's possible, but a status quo is better than regressive policies that will take years if not

decades to overturn.

movement is not always good.

[Orsino]

69. Status quo actually sounds delicious right now. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

71. indeed.

[Lucinda]

68. Would they have had the majority if Hillary was in office

If I remember correctly, there was every indication we would pick up the Senate before everything went wonky.

[Orsino]

73. That was always in doubt, IIRC.

But what the fuck can we tell about actual ballots nowadays?

[Lucinda]

80. Yawp.

[StevieM]

100. Had Comey not interfered we would have won Senate seats in PA, WI, MO and NC, even assuming the race

narrowed to a 6 point national win.

People were referring to "Comey Republicans" in the Senate even before election day. Everyone knew what a huge impact his actions would have, even before it was clear that Trump might win. Now the media is acting like it is ambiguous as to whether her affected the outcome.

Now only did he cost her the race but he cost her a decisive victory. Then again, she would have won by a blowout if it had not been for his original press conference in July.

This was the ultimate rigged election.

[MFM008]

66. If HRC had won

I wouldn't be sitting here with a stomach ulcer!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

70. ..

[aikoaiko]

78. Many lessons for us to learn.

I hope we learn to do more than wag our fingers at those who didn't vote for HRC and give the middle finger to Trump voters.

[Eliot Rosewater]

79. You are forgetting she once owned a private server, forget that most in the WH

are now using private servers.

You are also conveniently forgetting that she didnt fly to Benghazi and shoot the terrorists herself.

You liberals...should have listened to us 3rd party voters, we know best.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

86. ...

indeed.

[Turbineguy]

81. You make a good point.

After the election it came to me that I needed to be more aware and make better decisions. No more wait and see. Active thinking constantly. I hope more Americans take this view. Their survival may very well defend on it.

Unless I just say fuck it and become an oxycontin addict.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

84. don't do that!!! (oxy)

[oasis]

82. Wake up America, before it's too late.

[ismnotwasm]

83. K&R

[cwydro]

88. K and r.

[herding cats]

90. I was "woke AF" before the election, too.

I cannot believe there's people out there who didn't see this coming when Trump was elected! How blind could a person possibly be?! It's not as they weren't warned, Obama warned them, Hillary warned them, and Trump promised to do all this. They must have been in some kind of altered mental state to not see this coming!

All we can do now is hope these recently woke people stay that way, and don't fall into their fugue state again in 2018 & 2020.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

91. i hope their wokeness causes them to talk to their families about voting for bigots

i really liked this article http://www.theroot.com/if-i-were-barack-obama-or-hillary-clinton-i-d-put-amer-1791913932?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=The_Root_facebook

Many of the very people who have pushed Obama and Clinton to speak out more are the same people who didn’t initially want to talk to their white relatives about what it means to support a man who has an extensive history of bigotry. After the election, a HuffPost/YouGov survey revealed that a 53 percent majority of those celebrating the holidays said that they were either not very likely or not likely at all to discuss politics during their dinner. Around that time, there were countless articles written about how to avoid talking about politics at Thanksgiving

[herding cats]

92. Yep. Now they want the cavalry to ride in to rescue them from what they've done.

Not gonna happen, and they don't deserve it. They did it, they own it, they supported a racist bigot with a Putin fetish!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

93. right after the election there were all these Jill Stein voters i know

demanding why HRC was not issuing more statements now that Muslims were terrified.

I just don't get why they turn to HRC for that. Get your own stupid huckster leader to issue statements.

[herding cats]

94. Exactly.

Hillary is a private citizen taking a break ofter a horror show of an election. She doesn't owe any of them anything, and she deserves the time to heal from all the negativity. Just like Obama deserves his vacation. It's not either of their jobs to reassure people who helped let this mess happen. That's the job of our elected Democrats now.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

95. someone else wanted her to donate all her book profits to the DNC or downticket Dems

why?

we never demand this absurdity from Sanders or Obama or Warren. All of them have written books.

[herding cats]

96. That person was just trolling, IMO.

Seriously, I don't know where they were or who they were, all I'm sure of is it had to be on the internet and not face to face. Why? Because that's so over-the-top there's no way it was a legitimate statement. They're a hater trying to upset you, and I'm sorry you ran into them. They suck, and people like them make the Internet suck. I know we can't just ignore them, but my advice is try not to let them get under your skin too deeply. They're not worth it, and hate can be contagious. Honestly, I think a lot of the Hillary hate last year was deliberately cultivated, carefully nurtured and then spread by unwitting victims who fell for the lies of some pretty sophisticated propagandist.

I'm really sorry you've had to experience that level of ugliness, there's been way too much of it recently.

[greenman3610]

101. but Jill Stein told me they were all the same..

[La Lioness Priyanka]

102. yeah she did, didn't she. fucking lying huckster.