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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo apologies.
But I am insane. I have since childhood had an obsession with being a hero. With being apart of something to defeat a great evil.
So when I said I was excited, emotionally stirred and motivated to fight this, I meant that with passion and love and encouragement for my fellow man.
I do not mean to trample my fellow Democrats or belittle your concerns and struggles. I see plight and evil and I still see our opportunity to change the world. I still see our chance to make things right for everyone.
Do any of you still believe that good always wins? Are you all so defeated already?
You're not defeated!
You and I are still here! Our love still remains and we are able to do so much. Do not let them impede us!
Better than I, Mr Chaplin can thoroughly explain my vigor.
randome
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retrowire
(10,345 posts)If people want to shout down or talk down a person that is invigorated and trying to encourage others (though my words could have been clearer in this tumultuous time) then let them.
They're only barking up the wrong tree. I am an ally. Perhaps a poorly spoken one, but an ally nonetheless.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)I got what you were saying.
I am hurt, angry, and sad.....but I am not defeated nor will I be.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)On rare occasion we will do battle. Then we will come out of our bunker with stronger resolve and fight against the forces of evil. I'm in this with you.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)with no apology
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)I was apologetic, to you and only you. I was sorry for being lackadaisical with words. I acknowledged that I could have been more careful and less callous had I understood how it could come off originally.
But you proudly refused that forgiveness. So... Your post here trying to shame me for my non apologetic stance comes off as I'll tempered. As I said before, you've every right to feel the way you do. But, don't approach me mocking me for being unapologetic when you yourself would not grant the grace of forgiveness when apologized to.
In the end, we are what we are and I hold no ill will towards you. I know what I did to offend you and I know what I did to correct that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8616642
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)you sarcastically said 'Forgive me for assuming that people understood that I'm not apathetic'
when you mentioned several times through that thread about how 'Germany recovered' without showing any empathy for the millions of Jews who died.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)You can see a rude asshole in these words if you read them that way.
Right, about that Germany recovered statement. I was blankly talking about the nation of Germany and then assuming that readers wouldn't outright assume that I had no empathy for the price that was paid.
I asked forgiveness for giving readers that benefit of a doubt and thereby wording myself so lackadaisically. My bad. It sincerely was my bad. I should have been more clear. I shouldn't have assumed people would grant me the benefit of a doubt.
So yes, that was a sincere apology. The problem is, you already have this image of me in mind, that's why you assume I'm an asshole. You'll always read my words that way. This is the curse of written word without context.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)as you.
many of the Germans who were not Jews were OK after WWII, this meant nothing to the millions of Jews who died.
Focusing on the state of Germany while not referencing the implications of the holocaust is extremely callous. As is this 'no apology' tour that you are now on.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)You say it best!
"No apology tour"! Excellent.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)This persistent ignorance tour is pretty remarkable.
Maybe people could read the explanations rather than persistently pounce on the original point that they misinterpreted?
Even after the asking for forgiveness, it continues.
Why?
What other reason could it be other than, "I want to be right."?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Remarkably callous, as Pri pointed out.
Now insulting those from whom you ask forgiveness?
Oh my.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not too long ago, you had an OP about how demoralized and depressed you were with the election.
Interesting how you've suddenly become "excited."
Fascinating.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)No shit.
I've already said all of this.
I owe you no further explanations.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Go get 'em!!
nolabels
(13,133 posts)(Well a few exceptions or course) To me, the difference of it is being to match new feeling with others feelings and experiences you have had in the past.
Some of the new things might outwiegh the other similar things making it feel novel.
He may be even correct because the outcome over the long run might make it important and possibly good.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)does not mean that they didn't get your point, and it does not mean that they are defeated and need you to convince them not to be. It just means that you don't seem to grasp the horror of the things you are talking about.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That was an incredibly horrifying comment, and I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one appalled.
Vietnam "bounced back" too, but none of the dead did.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Just a innocent misunderstanding of context. It's all good.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)Me, too.
I wish everyone was.
Fuck apologies.