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Maxine Waters Tells MSNBC "Trump Won't Last 4 Years" (Original Post) oasis Feb 2017 OP
we still don't know what Dems know HipChick Feb 2017 #1
True that. A lot will be coming forward during the next few months. oasis Feb 2017 #8
That's right! Remember she was so outraged after that briefing with the FBI. PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #10
More info: Senator Wyden is Hell-bent on Getting Out the Truth About Trump and Russia Amaryllis Feb 2017 #50
he is mentally unwell seriously bdamomma Feb 2017 #60
She knows the intell on him. madaboutharry Feb 2017 #2
Waters doesnt worry about a condemnation tweet from Trump. oasis Feb 2017 #13
She just dd on MSNBC too. Motown_Johnny Feb 2017 #3
Pence and the GOP will be unable to extricate themselves from Trump by 2018. oasis Feb 2017 #14
Agreed, but the Gridlock would continue. Motown_Johnny Feb 2017 #23
Saying it might mean Trump gets so angry, he acquiesces by having a heart attack! randome Feb 2017 #4
Waters kicked GOP ass during Bill Clinton's impeachment proceedings. oasis Feb 2017 #16
Either heart attack bdamomma Feb 2017 #61
Did she introduce her 'Russian ties' bill yet? The one she was going to have a press conference on? jmg257 Feb 2017 #5
Yep. Lucinda Feb 2017 #15
Thanks!!! nt jmg257 Feb 2017 #18
Yes, and she had the press conference and almost NO media covered it. Squinch Feb 2017 #41
Ugh - I remember looking for it and found little to no coverage. nt jmg257 Feb 2017 #44
Also, look up the name Oleg Erovinkin. Your eyes will pop. The international Squinch Feb 2017 #45
Will do - thanks! Cheers. jmg257 Feb 2017 #46
I am thinking retirement GusBob Feb 2017 #6
Nope. That would stain him as a "quitter". Trump won't go that route. oasis Feb 2017 #20
When is Maxine going to reveal what the Comey meeting was about? SHRED Feb 2017 #7
The "meeting" in which she, Pelosi, and other Dems left in a huff oasis Feb 2017 #21
Risk prison then SHRED Feb 2017 #22
Any info released will be immediately discredited and dismissed. We need oasis Feb 2017 #26
Which then undermines all ability she has to continue with her current goal. LanternWaste Feb 2017 #30
Exactamundo. nt oasis Feb 2017 #35
Elijah Cummings bdamomma Feb 2017 #64
Katie Tur is with MSNBC, right? n/t targetpractice Feb 2017 #9
As of a few weeks ago. Why? Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #12
Right, I'll change the header. Thanks. oasis Feb 2017 #17
Maxine, I hope your job will be to... Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #11
Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, etc... SHRED Feb 2017 #19
Pretty sick that you call her a coward. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #24
What do you call it? SHRED Feb 2017 #25
Decades ago, Waters was called a "kook" after she called out the CIA oasis Feb 2017 #28
Because it is classified information and they weren't elected to leak classified information. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #31
Patience. nbsmom Feb 2017 #39
I hear ya SHRED Feb 2017 #40
But, it seems you're in luck. Things are starting to happen... nbsmom Feb 2017 #57
Becoming one is much less convenient than calling people cowards. LanternWaste Feb 2017 #34
No. murielm99 Feb 2017 #47
I love you Maxine, but you are giving the republicans too much the benefit of the doubt still_one Feb 2017 #27
I have that feeling also.. mvd Feb 2017 #29
All in good time. nt oasis Feb 2017 #32
That hope is the only thing that keeps me from madokie Feb 2017 #33
By the end of 2018, America would have learned a costly lesson. nt oasis Feb 2017 #36
Will we learn anything? murielm99 Feb 2017 #48
For one thing, Americans will get off of their lazy asses and vote. oasis Feb 2017 #49
not to play bdamomma Feb 2017 #62
Im sorry we have 4 more hours of this MFM008 Feb 2017 #37
Americans have gone through a lot worse trials without folding. oasis Feb 2017 #38
While everyone is looking at.. coco22 Feb 2017 #42
The Trump cabinet,? the Putin connection? What? Who? oasis Feb 2017 #43
i sure as hell hope not..... samnsara Feb 2017 #51
Self implosion or getting the boot. Either way, he'll be out before 2020. oasis Feb 2017 #53
My Girl! calimary Feb 2017 #52
Maxine's tops in my book. nt oasis Feb 2017 #55
I don't think that he'll finish his term either. Beacool Feb 2017 #54
Looks as if his hair is already getting whiter. nt oasis Feb 2017 #56
It's been white for a long time, he's not young. Beacool Feb 2017 #58
I can't imagine he'll be removed from office. He is already committing impeachable offenses StevieM Feb 2017 #59
He will be bdamomma Feb 2017 #63
We'll let's just keep our fingers crossed. Beacool Feb 2017 #65
I don't think he'll last 4 years. Someone will leak. Tatiana Feb 2017 #66
Yup. There's just too much out there for leaks not to happen. nt oasis Feb 2017 #69
She is my Rep! She totally rocks! - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #67
Waters is respected for her courage and tenacity. She don't play. oasis Feb 2017 #68

oasis

(49,370 posts)
8. True that. A lot will be coming forward during the next few months.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:05 PM
Feb 2017

Waters is in a "safe" district and has no problem speaking truth to power.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
10. That's right! Remember she was so outraged after that briefing with the FBI.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:07 PM
Feb 2017

She said she couldn't talk about what went on because it was classified, but she clearly was beyond upset.
I want to know what's in the works. Like NOW.
Nancy Pelosi also said she was calling for a hearing to investigate 'Orange Menace's' ties to Russia. Every day he is becoming more and more unhinged and delusional. it's really scaring the crap out of me.




madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
2. She knows the intell on him.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:00 PM
Feb 2017

It's just a matter of time. I think that is the real reason Trump wanders around at night in his robe impersonating Richard Nixon.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. She just dd on MSNBC too.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:00 PM
Feb 2017

In response to a question about gridlock in Congress lasting another 4 years she said Trump won't last 4 years.

Of course that implies that she will be able to work with a President Pence, but nobody bothered addressing that.




oasis

(49,370 posts)
14. Pence and the GOP will be unable to extricate themselves from Trump by 2018.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:16 PM
Feb 2017

Pence is toast in 2020.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
23. Agreed, but the Gridlock would continue.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:36 PM
Feb 2017

Which is what the question was about. That is the only reason I mentioned it.




 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Saying it might mean Trump gets so angry, he acquiesces by having a heart attack!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:00 PM
Feb 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Donald Trump's scorecard:
Muslim ban = failed. Yemen raid = failed. Approval ratings = failed.
Mexican wall = failed. Economic utopia = failed. Grade point average = 0.
[/center][/font][hr]

oasis

(49,370 posts)
16. Waters kicked GOP ass during Bill Clinton's impeachment proceedings.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

She has visions of Republicans being forced into action against Trump in order to save their own skins.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
5. Did she introduce her 'Russian ties' bill yet? The one she was going to have a press conference on?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:01 PM
Feb 2017

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
41. Yes, and she had the press conference and almost NO media covered it.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:23 PM
Feb 2017

This is probably the most important issue of our time, and she is one of the few people talking about it, and no one showed up.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
45. Also, look up the name Oleg Erovinkin. Your eyes will pop. The international
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:46 PM
Feb 2017

press was all over his story for a while, and there was nothing in the US press.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
26. Any info released will be immediately discredited and dismissed. We need
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:44 PM
Feb 2017

Waters to keep the heat up on the Trump cabal.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. Which then undermines all ability she has to continue with her current goal.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:53 PM
Feb 2017

Which then undermines all ability she has to continue with her current goal. A simple cost/benefit analysis illustrates her current tactic is more effective.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
64. Elijah Cummings
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

before the election results said something like this "if the American People knew" and that was it never heard anything else. Hello CIA??? anyone out there????

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
11. Maxine, I hope your job will be to...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:10 PM
Feb 2017

find a way for the intelligence data on Trumpy to be leaked. If the documents get buried, they'll die. The GOP will not abandon power and will NEVER disempower Trumpy, at least not for 14-16 months of this torture.

So Maxine. (I know you're out there, Maxine.) Work on a plan. A lot of people in Congress know what's in those docs. Where there's a will, there's a way.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
19. Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, etc...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:27 PM
Feb 2017

Where are these types today?

She could very well release what she knows and face the consequences in the name of the greater good for us all but she refuses.
Why?
Prison?

I'm sick of cowards.
The people I listed above were real warriors who risked it all.
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
25. What do you call it?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:41 PM
Feb 2017

We've got the Republican Party tearing this country down and our Democratic leaders are mum about this meeting.

WHY?

oasis

(49,370 posts)
28. Decades ago, Waters was called a "kook" after she called out the CIA
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:50 PM
Feb 2017

for their involvement in the spread of crack cocaine in major US cities. Google Gary Webb/ Dark Alliance

Waters doesn't shy away from controversy, but she can't help the country much sitting in the slammer.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. Because it is classified information and they weren't elected to leak classified information.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:54 PM
Feb 2017

That doesn't mean they do nothing.

Truly sick that you call Maxine Waters a coward. Easy to do behind a keyboard. That is a slander on progressives that should not stand. It's sick.

nbsmom

(591 posts)
39. Patience.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:14 PM
Feb 2017

I'll be willing to bet that you weren't alive when Nixon was impeached.

This is MUCH bigger than Watergate, and the corruption is significantly more pervasive. There's a reason people often compare corruption to cancer: By rushing the diagnosis, potentially deadly growths are missed, and the patient dies. But if you take your time, and treat the patient using best practices, you can limit the damage and improve the patient's chances.

In other words, if this investigation is done correctly, everyone involved will be removed from positions of power.

Which would mean no more Bannon OR Pence OR McConnell, either.

For me, that's worth the wait.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
40. I hear ya
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:22 PM
Feb 2017

And I was 18 when he was impeached.

This country is in code red right now.
Excuse me for not having patience.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. Becoming one is much less convenient than calling people cowards.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:57 PM
Feb 2017

"Where are these types today? "

Becoming one is much less convenient than calling people cowards. And much more viscerally satisfying... yet does absolutely nothing to move the struggle forward.



(space provided free of charge below to rationalize cowering on a message board being much more righteous, effective and heroic than Waters' current activities...)

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
47. No.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:01 PM
Feb 2017

What she is doing is more honorable.

Besides, we don't need her ruined and drummed out of Congress. We need every Democrat, every woman and every POC that we have. We could use a few more, too!

mvd

(65,169 posts)
29. I have that feeling also..
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:51 PM
Feb 2017

but nice hearing it from her. I don't think the country can take four years of him.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
33. That hope is the only thing that keeps me from
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:55 PM
Feb 2017

pulling my fucking hair out. Yes, I might be old but I still have a lot of hair

Have you noticed it's the women in our party, for the most part, who aren't afraid to speak their minds. They're a tough lot and I love 'em

Personally I wish we had at least 60 woman Senators and 235 woman Representatives. I trust women where I'm skeptical of man

Just think where we'd be with Hillary in the white house. Damn sure wouldn't be doing what the dickhead we have in there now is doing. I trust Hillary

We got screwed this last election, bigtime

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
48. Will we learn anything?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:02 PM
Feb 2017

Really? Will they blame it all on Democrats and Obama? Will they get away with it?

Sometimes I think we are all too ignorant to learn from history, or from anything else.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
49. For one thing, Americans will get off of their lazy asses and vote.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
Feb 2017

Next time they won't be deterred by fake email/Bengazi hearings. Voters will be hungry for practical solutions.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
38. Americans have gone through a lot worse trials without folding.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:11 PM
Feb 2017

We have the legal means to adequately deal with and dispatch Benedict Donald.

calimary

(81,193 posts)
52. My Girl!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:32 PM
Feb 2017

Talkin' 'bout, my giiii-ii-iirl.... MY GIRL!

She really isn't mine. Technically, that is. She represents another district. But only geographically. I had the distinct pleasure of meeting her when a Hillary headquarters opened a few miles from me last year. She was a featured guest. I got to shake that lady's hand and tell her to her face how awesome I think she is. She represents me beautifully, in every way and on every issue I can think of. Especially in THIS case!

I freakin' LOVE that woman!

Maxine the Magnificent.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
54. I don't think that he'll finish his term either.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:39 PM
Feb 2017

The choices are various.

A) Impeachment
B) Congress invokes section 4 of the 25th Amendment
C) Someone takes matters into his own hands
D) Fate (he's 70, overweight, doesn't exercise, doesn't get enough sleep and loves to eat junk food)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
59. I can't imagine he'll be removed from office. He is already committing impeachable offenses
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 09:45 PM
Feb 2017

right out in the open.

I suspect that any Republican could get away with a whole lot. The rules only apply if you are a liberal. But the GOP does whatever the hell they want.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
63. He will be
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 10:08 PM
Feb 2017

a "winner" if he just goes, but I do NOT trust this nut case, he likes to take revenge.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
66. I don't think he'll last 4 years. Someone will leak.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

I'm not certain it will be a Congressperson. I think it will be one of the intelligence officers who actually cares about this country and can find a way of releasing the information anonymously.

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