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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:35 PM Feb 2017

Bannon is battling Pope Francis, and moderate and progressive Catholics.

There has always been a wide range of Catholic views, and the hard right are not the only "true Catholics" -- even though that's how they view themselves.

Bannon is associating himself with some far right Bishops, who are fighting Pope Francis.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/world/europe/vatican-steve-bannon-pope-francis.html?_r=0

Just as Mr. Bannon has connected with far-right parties threatening to topple governments throughout Western Europe, he has also made common cause with elements in the Roman Catholic Church who oppose the direction Francis is taking them. Many share Mr. Bannon’s suspicion of Pope Francis as a dangerously misguided, and probably socialist, pontiff.

Until now, Francis has marginalized or demoted the traditionalists, notably Cardinal Burke, carrying out an inclusive agenda on migration, climate change and poverty that has made the pope a figure of unmatched global popularity, especially among liberals. Yet in a newly turbulent world, Francis is suddenly a lonelier figure. Where once Francis had a powerful ally in the White House in Barack Obama, now there is Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon, this new president’s ideological guru.

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The pope will maintain his direction and not be distracted by fights against those trying to undercut him, Father Spadaro said. “He moves forward, and he moves ahead very fast.”

He added that Mr. Trump’s ban on immigrants from certain Muslim countries was “opposite” to the pontiff’s vision for how to foster unity and peace. The pope, Father Spadaro said, is doing everything he can to avoid the clash of civilizations that both fundamentalist Muslims and Christians want.

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Bannon is battling Pope Francis, and moderate and progressive Catholics. (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2017 OP
Read this shrike Feb 2017 #1
He's the best Pope ever! LisaM Feb 2017 #2
I'm not religious but rather love Pope Francies, LisaM, Hortensis Feb 2017 #5
I am a progressive Catholic orangecrush Feb 2017 #3
"His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-union Democrats." rug Feb 2017 #4
I was raised in the Church peggysue2 Feb 2017 #6
Pope Francis is a Jesuit. gademocrat7 Feb 2017 #7
Did you see this other article on Bannon in the Times about his citing octoberlib Feb 2017 #8
Thanks! pnwmom Feb 2017 #9
Here is a photo of Bannon/Mussolini muse, Julius Evola smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #10
Omg, yes! Gather up all the worst people in history and you'll find Bannon there octoberlib Feb 2017 #11

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
2. He's the best Pope ever!
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:39 PM
Feb 2017

I am Catholic and didn't realize until I grew up that all Catholic churches were not like the gentle, liberal churches like the ones I attended (all in college towns). It was an eye opener, to be sure. Pope Francis represents the way I was taught, and I don't see how any Catholic couldn't agree with his message of helping the poor.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. I'm not religious but rather love Pope Francies, LisaM,
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:53 PM
Feb 2017

and I don't love leaders easily, not even Obama, though I am a great admirer. In fact, this Pope may be the first.

It seems to me that Pope Francis is both conservative and, yet often acts as, a social liberal, and probably at least sometimes as an economic liberal, depending. His vast tolerance of many different cultures, generosity of spirit, and ability to work within traditional and hidebound systems, only pushing their boundaries judiciously, clearly indicate that he could not be the kind of radical leftist those ultraconservative bishops are no doubt claiming he is.

Socialist and communist? Liberals are usually shopping cart pragmatists--you use what works best in each situation, retaining the best of capitalism's energy here, adding in some socialism because that works better there... Etc.

Whatever, no labels actually needed. Just imagine the world if we all just took him as our role model. I'm smiling as I type this because he is who and what he is.

orangecrush

(19,545 posts)
3. I am a progressive Catholic
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:42 PM
Feb 2017

And it is getting downright ugly.

I hope Pope Francis calls Burke back to Rome, and replaces him with a non nazi.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. "His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-union Democrats."
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:46 PM
Feb 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

He has betrayed everything he ever was.

Francis has his work cut out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12217588

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
6. I was raised in the Church
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:59 PM
Feb 2017

Have not been active for years. But my money is on Pope Francis who has during his short tenure given hope to millions. The man's genuine outreach to the poor and marginalized is inspiring. His stance on Climate Change and the challenge of being good stewards to the Earth is stirring, far more Christian than the forces that would bring down his papacy.

Pope Frank rocks and is beloved by the world. With good reason. That's what Bannon and his cabal of darkness cannot stand. The light is blinding for this crew of miscreants.

So, let the haters howl to the moon. It won't stop this Pope.

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