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Cha

(296,848 posts)
1. Russia Considers Returning Snowden to U.S. to Curry Favor With Trump: Official
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:23 PM
Feb 2017

U.S. intelligence has collected information that Russia is considering turning over Edward Snowden as a "gift" to President Donald Trump — who has called the NSA leaker a "spy" and a "traitor" who deserves to be executed.

That's according to a senior U.S. official who has analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations and who says a Snowden handover is one of various ploys to "curry favor" with Trump. A second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence about the Russian conversations and notes it has been gathered since the inauguration.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russia-eyes-sending-snowden-u-s-gift-trump-official-n718921?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Too clever of Putin! Like pouring vinegar into boiling water.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:26 PM
Feb 2017

We're outside viewers, but 45'll likely be too ignorant to know to head this off. Like Jerusalem. What an idiot.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
13. More from the article..
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017

"Former deputy national security adviser Juan Zarate urged the Trump administration to be cautious in accepting any Snowden offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"For Russia, this would be a win-win. They've already extracted what they needed from Edward Snowden in terms of information and they've certainly used him to beat the United States over the head in terms of its surveillance and cyber activity," Zarate said.

"It would signal warmer relations and some desire for greater cooperation with the new administration, but it would also no doubt stoke controversies and cases in the U.S. around the role of surveillance, the role of the U.S. intelligence community, and the future of privacy and civil liberties in an American context."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Umhm. It occurred to me to wonder if perhaps Putin
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:21 PM
Feb 2017

might also see this all these real issues as a way of muddying the waters and distracting attention to a Snowden controversy as 45 at least lightens our sanctions on Russia. Both Russia and Exxon are no doubt eager to get $1B plus in oil unlocked as soon as possible, but with Exxon's CEO as our new SoS, the situation needs some finessing.

In any case, it does seem like a possible win-win for Putin, including if we do end up outraged and roiling over Trump/Tillerson/Putin. People can only be outraged so much and over a limited number of issues.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Follow the money? :) With THESE people involved,
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:34 PM
Feb 2017

it's hard to imagine we'd go wrong leaping straight to the money, not need to "follow"it, as a first-order consideration. And reportedly Putin really needs it--an existential issue.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. If you're a Putin stooge that nonsense works. I can't believe you'd post that
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:26 PM
Feb 2017

without a sarcasm tag.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
10. The ACLU stands with Snowden
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:34 PM
Feb 2017

I stand with the ACLU. Do you?

Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, George Soros, founder and chair of the Open Society Foundations, Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, Timothy Edgar, former director at the Obama White House National Security Staff, Maggie Gyllenhaal, actor, Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, Michael Stipe, musician, Teju Cole, writer, Melvin Goodman, former CIA division chief and senior analyst, Bruce Ackerman, Yale Law School professor, Eve Ensler, writer, and Daniel Radcliffe, actor do....in addition to Eric Holder and Barack Obama, pretty impressive. Wow!!!!

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/obama-should-pardon-edward-snowden-today-were-launching-campaign-make-it-happen

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
8. I see that he deleted his tweet claiming that 2016 was a choice between Goldman Sachs and Trump.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:30 PM
Feb 2017

Now he's close to being executed(or locked away forever) to curry political favor.

He's also been criticizing Russia more lately so my guess is they're trying to kill two birds with one stone.



Cha

(296,848 posts)
11. Oh really? he bought into the stupid "goldman-sachs propaganda and
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

he feels foolish enough to delete it.

Thanks for the info, Sascha

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