The Exxon-Russia-Trump plot, in 2 paragraphs

[dixiegrrrrl]

Note: I first saw this a few weeks ago BEFORE Trump lifted the Russia Sanctions.

If you know anything about this letter going round, or can de-bunk it, pls. share your info.
edited tadd source:Joe Scutella ‏@JoeScutella

[Chasstev365]

1. Well we know who the "New Owners" are.

How do we prove Trump and company are treasonous fucks, who sold out their country for profit?

I wonder what Mc Turtle's cut was?

[Native]

2. Greenpeace

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/5-step-explainer-russian-sanctions-arctic-drilling/

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. Excellent....and glad it cost Exxon big money.

Which they will make up fast enough, I guess.
So Trump is basically helping to despoil the planet and making huge bucks doing so.

[ghostsinthemachine]

3. Nobody gives a flying fuck...

Time magazine did an entire issue on the Russian connections, nobody cared. This has been going around for weeks, nobody cares. CNN and other outlets reported that "The Russian connection" was real. Nobody cares. Multiple intelligence organizations reported the connections, campaign hacking, and guess fucking what? Nobody cares.

The media is silent. Or they moved on. Or, in CNNs case, instead of the story, they are defending themselves against a Trump tweet.

Trump has tied the hands of the media. . By tweeting, exclusion, insults and misdirection. People need to stick microphones in his face everyday about this stuff.
But, nobody cares.

[Wellstone ruled]

6. This Story has been out there for months.

Amazing how long it takes for the US Media even begins to look at this stuff. We are talking some serious stuff here.

Trump and his stooges are into this up to their collective eyeballs. Just the Image of Trump spews distrust. One only has to read about his previous deals and the answer to his trustworthiness should be answered.

[ghostsinthemachine]

17. But, it reaches your eyeballs, my eyeballs

But nobody takes enough time, to know this stuff. One hour of news. Most of it weather.

[Wellstone ruled]

25. So true.

We have a Nation of People who have the attention span of a gnat. If this Story had been on TMZ or some Hollywood TV Gossip show,then we would possibly here or see more reaction. This is by Media design.

[Moliere]

4. This is in line with everything I've read but...

.. there's one last point, the 19.5% Rosneft stake that was sold was mentioned in the Trump dossier prepared by the ex-MI6 agent. He says that was promised to a close Trump associate in exchange for lifting the sanctions

[dixiegrrrrl]

9. Some things I read say it is to go to Trump..

and the almost impossible to follow trail of all the dummy corps is to hide it goes to Trump, in the end.
wonder if Ross is the bag man..would make sense.

[HoneyBadger]

26. I read in some other thread here that the fee for brokering the 19.5% was promised to Carter Page

But because Trump polled poorly in October, it never did. As far as I know, the dossier did not say that Trump and/or Page was ever going to receive the 19.5%. I assume that the fee would be something like a finder's fee.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8633398

It looks like an Italian bank, Intesa, functioned as the investment bank aka brokerage on the deal. Meaning they got a sizeable fee for bringing the parties together and providing them assurances that allowed the deal to occur.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/11/qatar-glencore-to-buy-195-percent-stake-in-russia-state-oil-major-rosneft.html

It was Qatar that bought the 19.5% according to the Financial Times.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8633347

Qatar is a country somewhere in Asia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

[alittlelark]

5. KnR !!!

Succinct - Bottom Line - great post !

[ProudProgressiveNow]

7. K&R nt

[ProudProgressiveNow]

10. K&R nt

[BadgerMom]

11. And now we know more about the secret investors

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/58a0340de4b080bf74f03d62

Alex Mohajer, Huff Post writer and Twitter poster, published this on the Huff Post contributor page today. If his research is correct, the Kochs are involved as well. That explains the collusion of all the Republican members of Congress. They're not protecting Trump so much as the Kochs.

I haven't seen anything about this on DU today and I've been looking. Did I miss it? I'd love to read what GliderGuider, IamFortunesFool and AlexSFCA have to say.

[IamFortunesFool]

15. That info was contained in one of the links in my OP from yesterday

Yes, this is real and has been publicly verified by multiple sources, as well as by the US intelligence community in the last few days... But it is only a fraction of the larger story. Here is a link to yesterday's OP for those who haven't seen it. Please take care to read all the links, as a great deal of the information needed to understand and validate the theory that myself, GliderGuider, and AlexSFCA have been talking about is contained in those articles and web pages.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028632788

[BadgerMom]

23. Thanks

Yesterday's OP was awesome, IamFortunesFool. I read or re-read all of the links. I knew about the 19/19.5% share sell off. Previously I hadn't read about the Kochs' stake. That fact really brought into focus the Republican Congressional collusion.

[IamFortunesFool]

27. Yes...this has Surkov's fingerprints all over it

Just as the Koch's are involved, I would wager many influential donors or figures on the left will be revealed to be complicit as well...many even unknowingly. Just as Surkov supported and financed a dizzying array of opposing factions in Russia to create division and instability, so has he done it here to us.

The Koch's are part of the global financial elite... their involvement should surprise no one.

[stuffmatters]

18. I've always thought the Koch "opposition" to Trump was strategic distancing (i.e.fake)

And the rubber stamping of Trump's appointments & agenda by all the Repubs in the Senate and House could only happen if the Kochs
were 100% on board.

This is a mind boggling monolithically Republican crime in progress both politically and economically. They needed to control all aspects of the government to pull it off and, by keeping the Supreme Court neutral or 5-4 Koch again, they are so close to puling this off.

[colorado_ufo]

12. I have read/heard this all before

in various places, but this puts it together neatly. Why else, simply, would Trump have chosen the people he did for the positions for which they have been nominated? And Bannon both leads the way and runs interference to be sure that all these plans go through. Also, think about how they will be able to control oil prices, world economy, as well as to quell technology and any scientific advances toward pollution reduction and clean energy?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

13. Who's Joe Scutella?

Pretty plausible info, I just never heard of him.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. I looked him up, it seems he is either a muscian or a retired Air Force officer in Fla.

Wiki has nothing...
Seems to be an average bear with a Twitter account, who I stumbled across and grabbed the letter.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

28. thanks! Hrrmmmmm

Interesting...and wonder what's a regular guy doing with that? I mean, what makes him credible? Or am I missing something? It just seems weird.

[dixiegrrrrl]

32. update...seems to be the retired military guy

as to your other question...
that particular letter, as others have said, has been roaming around the web for some time. This is just the first time I posted it.
Imagine he got it from a previous psoter somewhere..I think I have even seen it on Facebook.

Important question is...does it seem to make sense?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

34. I'll admit my reading skills aren't in top form...It's past my bedtime.

What I could decipher seemed totally believable.
A lot of people on this thread are saying it's credible and they seem to know what they're talking about.

[yardwork]

14. It sounds like a very reasonable theory, I wish somebody would do some investigative journalism

[Wounded Bear]

16. Follow the money...

[Initech]

19. With Tillerson and Trump, Exxon has become a bigger threat to the world than Isis.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

29. :( I'm kind of not surprised.

Exxon, being the kind of person it is, is totally unsurprising in the role of *ahem* highway robber.

[Initech]

33. Seriously this whole thing is playing out like Age Of Ultron.

Exxon is just an entity under the Bush years. Under Obama and Citizens United, it becomes active and self aware. Now it's merged with another intelligence - the government (JARVIS in the Avengers movies), and it will start taking over the world one country at a time. And it's looking to take actual human form, which it could probably do under Trump and Tillerson. Where does it end? Floating cities in the sky?

[stuffmatters]

20. Invaluable posts and comments, hope it stays on front page as long as possible

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This summary is essential reading and the subsequent posts with sources citing the "tentacles" of this global heist (from the Koch Bros to Steve Schwartzman at Blackstone) pretty much involves the entire kleptocratic political and economic power structure.
As we've all suspected so long, it's not just Trump, it's all of them!

[Mr.Bill]

22. I've been reading about this for weeks.

Try to explain it to a Trumpster and I swear you will get the very definition of a blank stare. It's way above their pay grade.

And if they are funneling the money through the Cayman Islands, the British are complicit, too, as far as I'm concerned. Their #1 business is money laundering for all kinds of shady activities.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

30. woa. I didn't know the British were especially shady.

I know, don't say it.... I'm naive. :/

And a Britophile.

[Mr.Bill]

31. Not you personally, of course,

but the banking laws (or lack thereof) in Hong Kong for all those years and more recently The Cayman Islands attract shady money. The British government knows about it and looks the other way. Good for business, you know.

[bucolic_frolic]

24. From the time of Sidney Riley, Ace of Spies

oil companies and governments have clashed and colluded

Oil magnate Armand Hammer had an apartment in Moscow and came
and went all through the Cold War

Economies run on energy, and all the politicians know it, yes the liberals
and progressives too, although we're making solar progress, and therefore
I don't think much will be made of the OP's perspective, no one dares to
mess with energy that much

Would love to see some researcher tackle energy in the Roman Empire. Is
there a treatise on an Olive Oil Cartel? Someone produced it, everyone
wanted it, it was light at night, it was food too