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** Not just Flynn please. He is being set up as the fall guy for the Kremlinization of the White House but Trump is as guilty, if not moreso. I don't think he hid anything and Pence certainly had the basic outline and is by no means innocent.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-white-houses-michael-flynn-problem-reaches-tipping-point
Multiple reports from late last week indicate that White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, despite repeated denials from leading members of Donald Trumps team, spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions before Inauguration Day. Flynn, who previously insisted no such conversations took place, is now saying hes not sure whether sanctions came up during his calls with Kislyak or not.
The scandal is starting to snowball, and as the Washington Posts David Ignatius, who first broke the news of Flynns calls a month ago, noted in a new column over the weekend, theres no shortage of questions in need of answers.
Michael Flynns real problem isnt the Logan Act, an obscure and probably unenforceable 1799 statute that bars private meddling in foreign policy disputes. Its whether President Trumps national security adviser sought to hide from his colleagues and the nation a pre-inauguration discussion with the Russian government about sanctions that the Obama administration was imposing.
Its far less significant if he violated the Logan Act and far more significant if he willfully misled this country, said Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, in a telephone interview late Friday. Why would he conceal the nature of the call unless he was conscious of wrongdoing?
Thats a good question, and its one of many.
Why did Vice President Mike Pence, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and Press Secretary Sean Spicer tell the public Flynn didnt talk about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
There are really only two possibilities: Either Flynn told his colleagues a lie, which they repeated because they believed him, or Flynn told them the truth, and they chose to help cover up his alleged wrongdoing.
For his part, Pence and his office have gone out of their way to say that the vice president relied entirely on Flynns word when he addressed the subject publicly. In other words, the VP is arguing that he was lied to, not that he did the lying.
If the White House national security advisor misled his own West Wing colleagues, how can he keep his job?
When Trump World lies to the American electorate, the president and his team dont seem to mind. When top officials on Team Trump lie to each other, it seems likely to create an untenable dynamic. Then again, this president hates admitting mistakes, so traditional rules and common sense may not apply.
What does Donald Trump have to say about this?
So far, alarmingly little. Despite the uproar on Friday, the president spoke briefly to reporters on Friday aboard Air Force One, where he claimed to have no idea what story journalists were even referring to. I dont know about that, I havent seen it, Trump said. What report is that? I havent seen that. Ill look into that.
Raster
(20,998 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)The spooks need to leak. Fingers crossed. They have the goods, the recordings, and Pence and Trump might be implicated.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Big enough to take his administration down.
Bayard
(22,005 posts)has to say about this revelation, since it happened before he left office. Its treason.