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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:13 AM Feb 2017

Was Flynn Acting Under Trumps Orders?

Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:15 AM - Edit history (1)

There has been a lot of media attention lately on Michael Flynn and his telephone conversations with Sergey Kislyak where Flynn apparently discussed with the Russian Ambassador the sanctions which President Obama imposed on Russia on the day they were imposed. Most of the attention has been focused on Flynn’s initial adamant denials that sanctions discussion took place in light of the subsequent revelations that intelligence intercepts prove otherwise. Also at issue is the fact that Flynn not only lied to the American people, he also lied to other administration officials including Vice President Pence who publicly defended him.

All of this is serious business which warrants a bi-partisan Congressional investigation, but no one seems to be asking the most important question: At the time that Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian Ambassador, was Flynn doing the bidding of Donald Trump or was he acting on his own?

As you will recall, immediately after President Obama announced new sanctions on Russia for their tampering with our election system, Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, announced that Russia would be retaliating in kind and would expel 35 US diplomats. This was to be expected. The American sanctions included expelling 35 Russian intelligence officers operating in the US as part of the Russian diplomatic mission. Every other time either Russia or the US expelled spies, the other country retaliated by doing the same; tit for tat so to speak.

However, the next day it was announced that Putin would not retaliate, at least not right away. Instead the Russian news agency, RIA, quoted Putin as saying that after Trump took office he would consider the actions of Trump administration when deciding on future course of Russia-U.S. relations. What event took place between the Russian Foreign Minister’s warning of imminent retaliation and Putin’s wait and see decision? Why that was the conversation which Flynn had with the Russian ambassador. One can only assume that Flynn conveyed assurances that the sanctions would be lifted once Trump took office. But again, did Flynn convey those assurances on his own, are was he following Trump’s instructions? Either answer has very serious implications.

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The Question No One IS Asking: Was Flynn Acting Under Trump’s Orders?

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Was Flynn Acting Under Trumps Orders? (Original Post) CajunBlazer Feb 2017 OP
CNN asked...nt WiffenPoof Feb 2017 #1
Yes, tonight after the article was written CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #3
Still.... WiffenPoof Feb 2017 #5
MSNBC asked. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #2
I have no idea whether they did or not CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #8
Malcolm Nance is on MSNBC asking it right now Frogg Feb 2017 #4
Again... CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #9
But you did ask, and MSNBC is discussing that question right now in some depth. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #13
Malcolm Nance (on MSNBC) is talking about this very issue. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #6
The only ones who aren't asking are the Republicans. nt procon Feb 2017 #7
HaHaHa!!!! StarryNite Feb 2017 #10
Ha! Great point! manicraven Feb 2017 #19
Of course Trump knew all about it every step of the way. world wide wally Feb 2017 #11
People are asking BainsBane Feb 2017 #12
Yeah, and it's the exact question anyone who lived through the Watergate moonscape Feb 2017 #14
Follow the money... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #17
Good bet! CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #22
Lying is their normal speak, so no way is that a problem for them. manicraven Feb 2017 #20
Hopefully a patriotic American workinclasszero Feb 2017 #15
I'd bet money the CIA is asking vigorously. Kablooie Feb 2017 #16
I suspect they don't have to ask CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #21
exactly gopiscrap Feb 2017 #18

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
8. I have no idea whether they did or not
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:24 AM
Feb 2017

I never watch MSNBC or FOX - I don't like my news chewed up and regurgitated through a biasrf filter.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. Again...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:25 AM
Feb 2017

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I never watch MSNBC or FOX - I don't like my news chewed up and regurgitated through a bias filter.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,613 posts)
13. But you did ask, and MSNBC is discussing that question right now in some depth.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:53 AM
Feb 2017

Malcom Nance answered it head-on and in detail. So you can't really say nobody is asking the question, because they are. It was just being discussed by a news outlet you don't watch.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,613 posts)
6. Malcolm Nance (on MSNBC) is talking about this very issue.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:23 AM
Feb 2017

He is sure Trump knew because Trump doesn't let anything happen without his sayso.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
12. People are asking
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:51 AM
Feb 2017

"What did the President know and when did he know it?" That was the exact quote from Brian Williams. They had a Boston Globe reporter on who said retired intelligence officials say it's inconceivable that Flynn discussed lifting sanctions with Russia without Trump knowing. Trump's involvement is why Flynn was fired. No one in the Trump White House is fired for lying. Lying is their default response to anything. There is far more to the story.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
14. Yeah, and it's the exact question anyone who lived through the Watergate
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:59 AM
Feb 2017

hearings asked themselves.

You're exactly right about nobody being fired for lying. Otherwise T would have to resign.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
22. Good bet!
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:18 AM
Feb 2017

Either that or they are blackmailing him. The least offense, but most dangerous possibility is that Trump just wants to be a total dictator like Putin.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. Hopefully a patriotic American
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 03:02 AM
Feb 2017

will step up with the truth before Trump and Bannon totally destroy the country.

We will see.

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