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Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:15 AM - Edit history (1)
There has been a lot of media attention lately on Michael Flynn and his telephone conversations with Sergey Kislyak where Flynn apparently discussed with the Russian Ambassador the sanctions which President Obama imposed on Russia on the day they were imposed. Most of the attention has been focused on Flynns initial adamant denials that sanctions discussion took place in light of the subsequent revelations that intelligence intercepts prove otherwise. Also at issue is the fact that Flynn not only lied to the American people, he also lied to other administration officials including Vice President Pence who publicly defended him.
All of this is serious business which warrants a bi-partisan Congressional investigation, but no one seems to be asking the most important question: At the time that Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian Ambassador, was Flynn doing the bidding of Donald Trump or was he acting on his own?
As you will recall, immediately after President Obama announced new sanctions on Russia for their tampering with our election system, Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, announced that Russia would be retaliating in kind and would expel 35 US diplomats. This was to be expected. The American sanctions included expelling 35 Russian intelligence officers operating in the US as part of the Russian diplomatic mission. Every other time either Russia or the US expelled spies, the other country retaliated by doing the same; tit for tat so to speak.
However, the next day it was announced that Putin would not retaliate, at least not right away. Instead the Russian news agency, RIA, quoted Putin as saying that after Trump took office he would consider the actions of Trump administration when deciding on future course of Russia-U.S. relations. What event took place between the Russian Foreign Ministers warning of imminent retaliation and Putins wait and see decision? Why that was the conversation which Flynn had with the Russian ambassador. One can only assume that Flynn conveyed assurances that the sanctions would be lifted once Trump took office. But again, did Flynn convey those assurances on his own, are was he following Trumps instructions? Either answer has very serious implications.
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The Question No One IS Asking: Was Flynn Acting Under Trumps Orders?
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)And they did not discuss it in depth
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)Great post.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)I never watch MSNBC or FOX - I don't like my news chewed up and regurgitated through a biasrf filter.
Frogg
(365 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:30 AM - Edit history (1)
I never watch MSNBC or FOX - I don't like my news chewed up and regurgitated through a bias filter.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)Malcom Nance answered it head-on and in detail. So you can't really say nobody is asking the question, because they are. It was just being discussed by a news outlet you don't watch.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)He is sure Trump knew because Trump doesn't let anything happen without his sayso.
procon
(15,805 posts)StarryNite
(9,440 posts)I'm sure you are exactly right about that!!!
manicraven
(901 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)The question is "can we prove it"?
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)"What did the President know and when did he know it?" That was the exact quote from Brian Williams. They had a Boston Globe reporter on who said retired intelligence officials say it's inconceivable that Flynn discussed lifting sanctions with Russia without Trump knowing. Trump's involvement is why Flynn was fired. No one in the Trump White House is fired for lying. Lying is their default response to anything. There is far more to the story.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)hearings asked themselves.
You're exactly right about nobody being fired for lying. Otherwise T would have to resign.
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)I'd bet a dollar against a frosted donut that Trump owes the Russians....bigly.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Either that or they are blackmailing him. The least offense, but most dangerous possibility is that Trump just wants to be a total dictator like Putin.
manicraven
(901 posts)I can't wait for more to come out!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)will step up with the truth before Trump and Bannon totally destroy the country.
We will see.
Kablooie
(18,612 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)I suspect they already know.