Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
26 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Bernie Sanders calling for an investigation today into Trump and Russia (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Feb 2017 OP
Good. dalton99a Feb 2017 #1
I don't think this is going to happen bdamomma Feb 2017 #2
We need a running list of all the congress people calling for investigations. femmocrat Feb 2017 #3
One of my Senators (Gary Peters-MI): demmiblue Feb 2017 #13
I did a little googling: femmocrat Feb 2017 #19
They already are. Justice Feb 2017 #4
Hillary brought attention to this a long time ago. It's been known for awhile now. n/t R B Garr Feb 2017 #5
Well, you're just one Senator, and one unaffiliated with either party. MineralMan Feb 2017 #6
Thank you for being brave enough to say what I was thinking. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #7
No bravery was required. MineralMan Feb 2017 #8
You're being very modest. I think you're brave anyway. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #9
DU is a lot friendlier these days, I'm finding. MineralMan Feb 2017 #10
And he could have done this months ago before the election, but that would R B Garr Feb 2017 #14
Is it better that he remain silent? Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #15
Did I suggest that? I did not. MineralMan Feb 2017 #16
Sanders is more of a Democrat than most Democrats... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #17
So some say. We have a Democratic Party, however. MineralMan Feb 2017 #18
Do I Have To Leave MM? ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #20
Of course not. However, you are not a Senator. MineralMan Feb 2017 #21
You Need Only Read My Opinions Here ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #24
I will take your word for it. MineralMan Feb 2017 #25
K&R. The more voices out there, the better. n/t demmiblue Feb 2017 #11
Took him long enough... Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #12
K&R mvd Feb 2017 #22
Excellent ailsagirl Feb 2017 #23
It's a good start, but far from being enough TrumpMania Feb 2017 #26

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
2. I don't think this is going to happen
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:25 AM
Feb 2017

not with the treasonous repigs in charge. A independent committee has to look into this.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. We need a running list of all the congress people calling for investigations.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:44 AM
Feb 2017

Kamala Harris also asked for an independent investigation (not a congressional one, though).




Does anyone know of others?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. Well, you're just one Senator, and one unaffiliated with either party.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:21 PM
Feb 2017

How much attention do you suppose those in the majority are going to pay to you, Bernie?

Join the Democratic Party, please, Senator Sanders. Then, you can add your voice to the party's demands.

It's nice that you're calling for an investigation, but rather irrelevant, if I may say so.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. No bravery was required.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:26 PM
Feb 2017

It's simply the truth. Bernie calling for something in the Senate is slightly more important than me doing it, but only slightly.

He is unaffiliated. He is an independent Senator. He really carries no weight in his demands.

He could change that today, though. He could become a Democratic Senator and join with the rest of the Democrats.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
14. And he could have done this months ago before the election, but that would
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:40 PM
Feb 2017

have benefitted Hillary. Who does it benefit waiting until now? Hmm.

 

Talk Is Cheap

(389 posts)
15. Is it better that he remain silent?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:59 PM
Feb 2017

At least Sanders has guts to speak up... Its called having a backbone and actually very relevant.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
16. Did I suggest that? I did not.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:02 PM
Feb 2017

I suggested that he'd have more impact if he were a Democrat. It costs him nothing to speak up, and puts him at no risk, so it's not really a matter of being brave.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. So some say. We have a Democratic Party, however.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:17 PM
Feb 2017

Bernie Sanders is not a member of that party, despite having run for the presidential nomination as a Democrat. What is a Democrat? In the United States a Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party.

So, your statement is incorrect by definition. Being a Democrat implies membership in the Democratic Party.

Senator Sanders is an independent Senator. He does not call himself a Democrat. You are the one doing that.

ProfessorGAC

(65,008 posts)
20. Do I Have To Leave MM?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:36 PM
Feb 2017

I'm registered as an independent, but with the exception of a county board seat pursued by a moderate guy i knew personally for years (and the local EMA director) i have never voted for a republican. Not a democrat, but seriously anti-Republican and i think that description fits Sanders. Are you suggesting i'm not an ally?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
21. Of course not. However, you are not a Senator.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:44 PM
Feb 2017

My point is that Senator Sanders would have more clout in this particular situation if he were actually a Democratic Senator.

I fully realize that he votes with the Democratic caucus almost all the time. He acts as a Democrat in most cases. But, he has steadfastly refused to become one, except when it was necessary to run as a primary candidate for President.

Is it a fine point? I think not. Bernie Sanders is a fine Senator, and I appreciate his hard work in that office. However, in this particular instance, he is speaking with an independent voice when it would be more effective if he were a Democrat.

In a de facto two-party federal government, being outside of both of those parties detracts from your position, really, on anything truly important.

Bernie Sanders will do what he chooses to do. I'm merely offering a suggestion to him. He is not the enemy. He is, however, diminished in his power by avoiding that party affiliation.

I don't know you personally. I assume you are who you say you are. If you say you are an ally, then I accept that. But, you are not a Democrat, for whatever matter that makes. I am a Democrat. I hold a minor elected position in that party. In my state, it is the Democrat-Farmer-Labor party. That is my affiliation, and I'm proud of that affiliation. If you are an ally, then thank you very much for being an ally. I will have to take your word for it, though.

ProfessorGAC

(65,008 posts)
24. You Need Only Read My Opinions Here
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 04:23 PM
Feb 2017

Absolutist with regard to social liberality and a staunch critic of supply side economics. You can find posts of me critical of tax cuts to enhance economic prosperity all the way back to 2001, right here at DU.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Took him long enough...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:32 PM
Feb 2017

But it is hilarious to see how quick the Putin-humping faction of his supporters has turned on him... Just look at his responses...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Bernie Sanders calling fo...