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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsU.S. ALLIES CONDUCT INTELLIGENCE OPERATION AGAINST TRUMP WHITE HOUSE - Eichenwald Newsweek
Eichenwald is going for it, this blockbuster material
http://europe.newsweek.com/allies-intercept-russia-trump-adviser-communications-557283?rm=eu
As part of intelligence operations being conducted against the United States for the last seven months, at least one Western European ally intercepted a series of communications before the inauguration between advisers associated with President Donald Trump and Russian government officials, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
Related: President Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns amidst Russia controversy
The sources said the interceptions include at least one contact between former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and a Russian official based in the United States. It could not be confirmed whether this involved the telephone call with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that has led to Flynns resignation, or additional communications. The sources said the intercepted communications are not just limited to telephone calls: The foreign agency is also gathering electronic and human source information on Trumps overseas business partners, at least some of whom the intelligence services now consider to be agents of their respective governments. These operations are being conducted out of concerns that Russia is seeking to manipulate its relationships with Trump administration officials as part of a long-term plan to destabilize the NATO alliance.
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Moreover, a Baltic nation is gathering intelligence on officials in the Trump White House and executives with the presidents company, the Trump Organization, out of concern that an American policy shift toward Russia could endanger its sovereignty, according to a third person with direct ties to that nations government.
These sources spoke on condition that they not be identified because they were not formally authorized to disclose the information. While Newsweek was told which allied nations intercepted the communications and are gathering intelligence on Trump associates, the sources did so on condition that the countries not be identified out of concern those governments would incur the presidents wrath.
The Western European intelligence operations began in August, after the British government obtained information that people acting on behalf of Russia were in contact with members of the Trump campaign. Those details from the British were widely shared among the NATO allies in Europe. The Baltic nation has been gathering intelligence for at least that long, and has conducted surveillance of executives from the Trump Organization who were traveling in Europe.
These operations reflect a serious breakdown in the long-standing faith in the direction of American policy by some of the countrys most important allies. Worse, the United States is now in a situation that may be unprecedentedwhere European governments know more about what is going on in the executive branch than any elected American official. To date, the Republican-controlled Congress has declined to conduct hearings to investigate the links between Trumps overseas business partners and foreign governments, or the activities between Russia and officials in the Trump campaign and administrationthe very areas being examined by the intelligence services of at least two American allies.
Some details about Trumps business partners were passed to the American government months ago. For example, long before the presidents inauguration, German electronic surveillance determined that the father of Trumps Azerbaijani business partner is a government official who laundered money for the Iranian military; that information was shared with the CIA, according to a European source with direct knowledge of the situation.
Read on, this is stunning.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)that means we're essentially flying blind.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Can't say I blame them; they do ultimately have to look after their own interests.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)It seems to be a breakdown in the Western Intelligence Alliance.
3_Limes
(363 posts)They're going straight to the press bec' nothing would be done otherwise, and the compromise would deepen. The normal channels are broken or compromised and the spooks don't trust the White House to do the right thing for America.
DK504
(3,847 posts)are gathering intelligence for our "intelligence" agencies and sharing some of what they find. I'm sure they are holding back to make sure this doesn't get buried by Comey and Sessions.
These countries are allies to Americans, not this administration. I thank them for their diligence.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,975 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Just f-ing great.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I feel like Rickey Bobby, on fire on the track!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)When you abuse allies and lie to them, they protect themselves.
tRump, you are in over your orange dyed head.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Her administration's secdef is needling the countries we need to be able to work with, need to be able to gather intel from.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Trump will not last, those who sold out will need to look over their shoulders and never be sure what is coming. No forgiveness, no compromise relentless.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)Or anyway, shouldn't he have wanted her to win instead of Trump.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Trump by most measures did not win and did not expect to win.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)protect!
LisaM
(27,803 posts)That clearly outweighs everything outlined above.
NBachers
(17,107 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Show America what might have been.
Or could be.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)While nothing improper has been detected, the Baltic nation also launched an investigation by its intelligence service into the relationship between Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and his longtime personal friend, Igor Sechin, the head of the Kremlin-controlled oil company Rosneft. Sechin and Rosneft are on the blacklist of people and entities designated for sanctions following Russias incursion into Ukraine. He was Tillersons main business partner when he worked as the chief executive of Exxon Mobil and is a powerful figure in Russia who is both a former member of the FSB (the federal security service that is the primary successor to the Soviet Unions KGB) and the former head of presidential administration in charge of the security services.
Sechins power derives from his relationship with Putin, according to a 2008 State Department cable sent from the embassy in Moscow. As Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration in charge of the security services, there was little doubt about Igor Sechin's power. He was widely regarded as a very influential member of Putin's inner circle, perhaps even the most influential, with the requisite FSB background to advance the President's (and his own) agenda.
That influence, and the role Sechin could play in gaining greater power for Russia through oil sales if sanctions are dropped by the Trump administration, is what made him a primary target in the Baltic states intelligence investigation of Tillerson. Yet, back in America, the name Sechin was not even mentioned during Tillersons confirmation hearings before the Senate.
fRump says: "Things are being leaked.....blah blah blah....." Yup. Like your collusion with russia!
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)an Anti-Intelligence Operation against the White House when they voted for Trump.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Did the Trumpies really think they'd keep all this secret?
Hekate
(90,645 posts)dlk
(11,554 posts)Who could have ever predicted that Republicans, who never miss an opportunity to wrap themselves in the flag, have reduced our government to this point -- where it takes the intelligence gathering of our allies to find out how our president and his cronies have colluded with a hostile foreign power to rig the presidential election and install sympathizers in cabinet positions, and others throughout our government? FBI Director Comey appears to be in on it and the stonewalling of Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan of any serious investigation looks like they are all part of something very dirty.
procon
(15,805 posts)They are an embarrassment, and if all these investigations prove that Trump is the traitor he seems to be, then every single Republican should be indicted as co conspirators for their roles in aiding and abetting him in the coverup by refusing to open an independent prosecutor.