I defended Susan Sarandon for a lot of things...I can't defend her political choices anymore.

[Ken Burch]

n/t.

[TXCritter]

1. What's she done? n/t

[Ken Burch]

2. She was on MSNBC tonight and still wouldn't admit she was wrong to back Stein.

n/t.

[orleans]

4. it's like buying a car

you hem and haw and once you sign for it you're locked in and suddenly become positive you made the right choice

i don't know--lame example

especially considering the crap that sits in the white house

[Dave Starsky]

7. I believe that's called cognitive dissonance...

And internal self-justification.

No one wants to think of themselves as an idiot, so they do a very effective sales job on themselves to prove that they're not.

[radical noodle]

3. She has no common sense

I can't wrap my mind around someone who says they want "progressives" in office who could possibly think it would be better to have Trump win than Hillary. She's so far left, she's on the right... met herself coming and going. Some of those people just seem to want to be perverse.

[boston bean]

11. She thinks Trump being in office helps progressives. She is batshit insane.

[radical noodle]

12. Yeah, those conservative Supreme Court Justices

are really going to help progressives. You nailed it with batshit insane.

[Jamaal510]

5. K&R

[Cary]

6. We know you defended Susan Sarandon

[LexVegas]

8. I remember people supporting her when she yelled in the face of a civil rights icon...

Is what she has done recently worse than that?

[Cary]

13. Great question

But we can't do anything about people who defended her when she attacked John Lewis. Can we?

I've tried to talk sense to these people and in return I get gaslighted. Or is that gaslit? Every attempt to try to find common ground with the Susan Sarandons gets twisted and turned against us.

The only solution I can conceive of is to assume that Susan Sarandon and people of that ilk are really so far to the left that they are rightists (as someone proffered here), or that they really are right wing idiots. Susan Sarandon is a thought virus designed to undermine our resolve.

[JCanete]

15. just rewatched that exchange to see if I misremembered it. I didn't. What yelling? seriously, don't

make up your own goddamn facts. I thought we found that distasteful on this side of the aisle.

[Demsrule86]

9. I had to turn MSNBC off...if anyone ever wonder who Susan is...

she is a hardhearted, ideologue who cares nothing for the people she has harmed...This was a close election. There is little doubt she helped elect Trump...rich, entitled, disgusting care for nobody...I wish nothing but the worst for her. But people like her they will be just fine...she talked about the people rising up...sure Susan...the the people arrested and torn from their families as in deported won't rise up and may not even survive Trump, the people tossed off of Obamacare won't rise up and many will die,the women a repeal of Roe would literally kill ( I survived a right-wing doctor barely in GA.) won't rise up. Our courts will be right-wing for a generation too...and God knows if the world will survive a president who thinks nukes should be used. But hey you are enjoying your feel good protest movement and sound pretty angry that people like me will hate you until the day we die don't understand your hard work was for us. It wasn't to give your empty spoiled life meaning. Your sort had never accomplished anything and caused much damage. The idea that from the ashes a hardy liberal movement will arise is laughable and naive...it never works that way. Funny, I once though you were pretty smart Susan...even after 2000 when you and yours foisted Bush on us...but last night...I realized you are not smart...ignorant, clueless, naive and out of touch with reality describes you best. Hubs had to turn the TV channel ...as I began screaming at your condescending smirky self...go to hell Susan. You are a selfish horrible person...I hope never to hear your name again. I rarely care about politics in the arts...but you...never will I watch anything that you participate in...never.

[leftyladyfrommo]

10. She has a right to her opinions.

But I won't be listening. Or going to see her movies.

[Blue_true]

14. So you WTFU? nt

[JCanete]

16. There is no reason to defend political choices you don't agree with. I voted for Clinton. Stein

seemed off, and Clinton finally, at long last, tacked left, and I responded to that hopefully. But while I agree with Chomsky that people like Sarandon made a horrible mistake when it came down to it...one I weighed myself(wouldn't have voted for Stein but did at one point consider sitting out)...I see no reason to impugn her motives, or to cast her as a horrible human being, which is the problem with even needing to post what you posted.

It seems people can't simply disagree with another person any more...that person has to be some incarnation of the Devil. And that IS a problem on the whole Democratic/liberal spectrum. I don't have to hate Clinton in order to disagree with her or to be concerned about her politics. In fact, I can still like her and assume that her intentions are in the right place. I can still find places to give her credit where it is due.

The Nader and Sarandon hate is just tragic in my opinion. Its very rare that anybody gets it all right. Our tendency to cast people out because they got the wrong thing wrong is self-destructive.