Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Quick question: Has anyone seen Kellyanne Conway on TV recently? (Original Post) kstewart33 Feb 2017 OP
She's looking tired, like the strain of lying for Drumpf is taking its toll on her psyche. Lanius Feb 2017 #1
No, not recently! RKP5637 Feb 2017 #2
Is that Kellyanne without the mask? Progressive dog Feb 2017 #4
LOL, yeah, I think so! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #6
Time for a touch up visit to the plastic surgeon Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #11
Time to call MAACO! lol! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #12
Yesterday, appraently, on the Today show question everything Feb 2017 #3
Actually Turbineguy Feb 2017 #5
They should. Screwed up my TV for several days with bizarre graphics. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #7
it blows my mind to stop and consider for a moment starshine00 Feb 2017 #8
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #13
I Was Surprised to Hear SDJay Feb 2017 #9
The Rhetoric of Evasion: What Trumps White House Has Done to the Language of Lying BeckyDem Feb 2017 #10
 

starshine00

(531 posts)
8. it blows my mind to stop and consider for a moment
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:45 AM
Feb 2017

what it must be like to be someone like her and go through your ENTIRE LIFE bullshitting, lying, placating, manipulating, conning etc etc etc all with a sweet smile and a pleasant demeanor...the damage she must have done to people her whole life is chilling, it is only fitting that she's now getting ruined on the world stage in front of everyone, it is no doubt her karma

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
9. I Was Surprised to Hear
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:51 AM
Feb 2017

that she personally bugs media people to book herself on shows. That's a pretty good window into the black pit of hell that exists where others have a soul.

I agree with the post above - I have wondered how someone even as evil and totally devoid of a conscious as she is can lay down at night and sleep. She's done nothing but try to and many times successfully ruin people her whole life. She is the scum of scum. How can you look at yourself and not wonder about what you've done to the world? I guess I've answered my own question - if there isn't a shred of decency inside of someone I guess they believe their own bullshit. Her current physical state belies that, though.

The only solace I take from her staining of the culture is that other than the 25 percent of people out there - the true rubes - she will forever be seen as a worthless turd of a liar who cannot be believed even if she tells you that water is wet. She has less credibility than even Dump, if that's possible. She makes Baghdad Bob look like Walter Cronkite. I enjoy the reality that her legacy as a human is just below burning garbage.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
10. The Rhetoric of Evasion: What Trumps White House Has Done to the Language of Lying
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:53 AM
Feb 2017

“We’re putting conundrums on top of hypotheticals on top of conjecture here. We take it all very seriously, but I think we’re having the same conversation seven different ways, respectfully, and ignoring all the other things that the president, the vice-president, and the national security adviser are doing together,” Kellyanne Conway said on February 13 to MSNBC’s Steve Kornacki. At issue was the phone chatter between Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and whether they talked about sanction relief in the late days of the Obama administration, but really Conway could have been talking about any of the things she goes on television to talk about because she was using her three favorite rhetorical tactics. First, she casts doubt on the verifiable reality of the question at hand, painting the attempt to get at the truth as a Sisyphean task; then paints herself as the polite and respectful one, implying that her interlocutor is the one violating codes of civility; and finally claiming that the reporter is ignoring the day’s real events of substance, in this case the president’s meetings with Shinzo Abe and Justin Trudeau as well as phone calls with heads of state from South Africa to Nigeria. In the end, the administration is always the victim along with the hardworking disenfranchised American families who are being denied heraldry of its good works on their behalf. Except, by the end of the day, Flynn had resigned.

It would be exciting to be able to trace a lineage for the language of the Trump administration from the modernists through deconstruction’s destabilizing of the text, but the truth is, Conway & Co. engage so much in the simple act of lying that there are simpler models at hand, like Jonathan Swift’s “The Art of Political Lying” or Herman Melville’s The Confidence Man. As the administration grinds into its second month, Trump’s flacks have made increasing use of a variation of Bartleby’s “I would prefer not to”: “I can’t speak to that.” Or, as I like to translate it, “I haven’t prepared any lies to respond to that question.” The irony of Flynn’s termination is that he was fired for lying while working in a house full of liars. Among Swift’s requirements of a good political liar are that “he ought to have but a short memory,” that he be ready and willing to swear to “both sides of a contradiction,” and that he never consider “whether any proposition were true or false, but whether it were convenient for the present minute or company to affirm or deny it.” The listener, faced with such a liar, is best served by abandoning any effort at verification or interpretation or sorting the true from the false: “[T]he only remedy is to suppose that you have heard some inarticulate sounds, without any meaning at all.” Unfortunately, that doesn’t work on Twitter.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/how-kellyanne-conway-and-sean-spicer-get-away-with-lying.html

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Quick question: Has anyon...