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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:37 AM Feb 2017

Fox is reporting Trump was fully briefed on Flynn call with Russia & allowed Pence to be lied to.




DONALD Trump was fully briefed on the content of Michael Flynn’s call with Russia after it happened, according to Fox News.

The President heard the details of the controversial communications between his national security adviser and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the news outlet reported. Those calls are now at the centre of a national security scandal that cost General Flynn his job.

“Under repeated questioning during an investigation by the White House Counsel’s Office, General Flynn I’m told had a full recollection of what he talked about with the Russian Ambassador,” Fox News Chief White House Correspondent John Roberts reported.

Gen Flynn initially said he did not discuss sanctions, or didn’t fully remember the content of those conversations.


http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-knew-about-mike-flynns-russia-call/news-story/993ec79b90ead241001788624d192e11
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Fox is reporting Trump was fully briefed on Flynn call with Russia & allowed Pence to be lied to. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2017 OP
It sounds like Flynn is being grilled. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #1
Sounds like they are covering for Pence who really did know in short order. nikibatts Feb 2017 #38
What's left Zoonart Feb 2017 #2
Makes sense - Spicer and trump said they were briefed (Yates), and after WH counsel et. al. jmg257 Feb 2017 #3
They're preparing to move Pence into the presidency. drm604 Feb 2017 #4
Yep.. HipChick Feb 2017 #5
That's my guess. Fox has the talking points and agenda. I don't think Trump realizes it. He's a AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2017 #9
If nothing else they're keeping him clean as a backup. nt herding cats Feb 2017 #10
That's my guess. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #39
I'd stay a good 10 feet away from John Roberts for a while underpants Feb 2017 #6
Duh. nt Kahuna7 Feb 2017 #7
Well said... mikelewis Feb 2017 #11
If Fox News is off the reservation.. DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #8
Democrats... mikelewis Feb 2017 #12
Is Fox News blaming Dems? DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #28
That was a quip... mikelewis Feb 2017 #31
LOL, no offense taken DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #40
same here starshine00 Feb 2017 #15
since Fox is reporting it it must be baloney so I wonder what the truth REALLY is. starshine00 Feb 2017 #13
I'm thinking Fox is about ready for President Pence at this point. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #14
I hope someone in the IC has tape of Pence being acknowledging the calls, info, etc. n/t woodsprite Feb 2017 #17
That would be interesting. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #19
President "waste of my fucking time"? god help us all starshine00 Feb 2017 #21
They're all horrible. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #22
My guess is Ryan is worse than Pence starshine00 Feb 2017 #23
Ryan strikes me as more polished, intelligent and photogenic than Pence. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #25
I don't think Ryan will represent our country well at all starshine00 Feb 2017 #27
Ryan is guilty/complicit as well! 2naSalit Feb 2017 #34
sure he is starshine00 Feb 2017 #35
it is odd that there is now the Trump faction of the GOP starshine00 Feb 2017 #18
Now Fox viewers can start skewering Roberts along with Shep! Native Feb 2017 #16
those are the Trump brownshirts starshine00 Feb 2017 #20
Yep, and I read that many of the religious right were praying for god to replace DJT with Pence manicraven Feb 2017 #32
The above two posts are spot on. GallopingGhost Feb 2017 #36
What's important is that trump lied. Flynn is gone and no longer the story. brush Feb 2017 #24
The ones who can't take his lies anymore.. coco22 Feb 2017 #33
Will he now say - FOX news is now Fake news? Laf.La.Dem. Feb 2017 #26
And the plan had been unfurled Afromania Feb 2017 #29
so Fox has jumped in to the "ProtectPence" camp librechik Feb 2017 #30
Fox??? This is the 2nd time in 2 days they've stepped up to the plate! LAS14 Feb 2017 #37
 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
38. Sounds like they are covering for Pence who really did know in short order.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:45 PM
Feb 2017

He at least knew before he went on camera and lied to the America people.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. Makes sense - Spicer and trump said they were briefed (Yates), and after WH counsel et. al.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:44 AM
Feb 2017

investigated, decided he hadn't done anything illegal.

The lying is what supposedly led to his resignation. (which was before the briefing).

drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. They're preparing to move Pence into the presidency.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:44 AM
Feb 2017

Thus they need to claim that he was kept ignorant.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,241 posts)
9. That's my guess. Fox has the talking points and agenda. I don't think Trump realizes it. He's a
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:02 AM
Feb 2017

typical Fox viewer. Actually, he might be starting to realize it, and is getting very confused.

DeminPennswoods

(15,276 posts)
8. If Fox News is off the reservation..
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

..that's bad news for Trump et al. First Shep Smith goes on a rant against Trump, now this. I wonder how the regular brain-washed Fox viewers are reacting and who will they turn on? Flynn? Trump? Fox News?

DeminPennswoods

(15,276 posts)
28. Is Fox News blaming Dems?
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:55 AM
Feb 2017

Neither of these story offered a conspiracy theory about Dem treachery somehow causing this, the focus was on Trump.

DeminPennswoods

(15,276 posts)
40. LOL, no offense taken
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:04 PM
Feb 2017

It's just interesting to me to see how the Fox News regular viewers react to this apostasy.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
15. same here
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
Feb 2017

but it is clear the 'fake news' meme is taking effect and Trump followers are being indoctrinated to not trust ANY media at all, period.

This rt wing news vitriol against Trump tells me they are setting up to get rid of him and install President Pence which I felt was the objective months ago, when they realized holy shit this orange turd might actually win the presidency.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
13. since Fox is reporting it it must be baloney so I wonder what the truth REALLY is.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:05 AM
Feb 2017

Something like, Trump wasn't briefed on it because he's a moron and wouldn't understand it anyway, but Pence WAS briefed on it because he's more stable mentally, therefore he knew about all of this but Trump is the fall guy, so they are allowing Pence to look innocent. No one will ever know the truth from Pence because only his eyeballs and lips move when he talks...no telltale tics or facial expressions left alive.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
14. I'm thinking Fox is about ready for President Pence at this point.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:06 AM
Feb 2017

Even they've had enough of Trump's bullshit and realize it's probably bad for their "brand."

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
19. That would be interesting.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Feb 2017

Then we'd have to prepare for President Ryan.

But the more it stinks for whoever takes over Trump, the better it serves us for 2018 and 2020.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
22. They're all horrible.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:14 AM
Feb 2017

Trump, however, is an insane lunatic who could immediately kill us all. We'll have to deal with him first, then with the others after that.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
23. My guess is Ryan is worse than Pence
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:18 AM
Feb 2017

Ryan is terrifying to me, even though as a woman and lgbt Pence gives me nightmares. Ryan, because he is so young, and such an obvious sociopath along the lines of Patrick Bateman in American psycho...he is everyone's worst nightmare of a college republican come to life.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
25. Ryan strikes me as more polished, intelligent and photogenic than Pence.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:20 AM
Feb 2017

Pence comes off as something of a dumb bulb.

I think I'd rather do battle against President Pence than President Ryan if I had my choice.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
27. I don't think Ryan will represent our country well at all
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:34 AM
Feb 2017

I don't find him "polished" unless there is a way to polish a turd I don't know about. I think he is an obnoxious, arrogant asshole and he doesn't make any effort to hide it. I don't want to argue for Pence but Ryan's arrogance and youthful haughtiness is not something I want representing this country.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
35. sure he is
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:30 PM
Feb 2017

he strikes me as the kind of person who makes his business to know everything that is going on around him at all times regardless of whether he is officially included or not. Kind of sociopathically smart. Don't like him at all, he's a walking nightmare.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
18. it is odd that there is now the Trump faction of the GOP
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Feb 2017

first the evangelicals came along, then the Tea party, now this...I honestly wonder if we as a country are headed toward a multi-party system like European countries...and how long it will take to get there...the GOP seems to be held together by only the thinnest threads anymore.

Native

(5,939 posts)
16. Now Fox viewers can start skewering Roberts along with Shep!
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
Feb 2017

Loved how they were all calling for Shep to be fired after his presser comments. So much ignorance on display.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
20. those are the Trump brownshirts
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:12 AM
Feb 2017

Fox viewers would love to have Pence installed, many of them are religionists or evangelicals and he would be their dreamboat Pres...

I can certainly speak on behalf of my evangelical family, they would like nothing better, none of them voted for Trump and they are all republicans (due to the abortion issue)

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
36. The above two posts are spot on.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

I know of someone who voted Trump and believes that God "allowed" Trump win *cough* so that Pence could be installed and bring about the end of the world faster.

Pence is their wet dream.

brush

(53,764 posts)
24. What's important is that trump lied. Flynn is gone and no longer the story.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:19 AM
Feb 2017

Remember trump briefly being asked by a reporter who stuck a mike in his face on Air Force One about about the report that Flynn lied about his conversations with the Russian ambassador — tump said he knew nothing about it and would have to look into it?

He knew then, had been briefed already and subsequently allowed Pence to be lied to by Flynn.

There should be repercussions — I mean undeniable proof that the president is an out-and-out liar and allowed the VP to be lied to is pretty substantial.

And what's up with FOX, are they starting turn on him too?

coco22

(1,258 posts)
33. The ones who can't take his lies anymore..
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:19 PM
Feb 2017

and who know much that isn't being told to the public.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
30. so Fox has jumped in to the "ProtectPence" camp
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:03 PM
Feb 2017

They know Trump is not sticking around, so they want Team B of the He Man God Fearin Grrl Haters Club to take over The planning on this caper was out of this world. We're fucked no matter what we do.

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