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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow the Opposition Can Wound Trump
Some interesting perspective here from a Yale professor.
http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/02/17/how-the-opposition-can-wound-trump/
...As you can imagine, my students find Trump supporters confounding. This is not an ideological reaction: I have liberal, libertarian, civic republican, and conservative students. They have been shocked by Trumps election, because to them he is so transparently unfit to lead anything, much less the US government.
They know hes unfit, because they know something about politics and policy, and knowing something about politics and policy means they know when the president is demonstrating some kind of allergy to falsifiable objective reality independent of his insecure ego...
What they dont know is that most people dont know much about politics, dont know much about policy, dont care to understand the details that make up the foundation any position, and dont think they need to care about understanding those details, because knowledge is not what they trust most in the world.
What they trust is character....
They know hes unfit, because they know something about politics and policy, and knowing something about politics and policy means they know when the president is demonstrating some kind of allergy to falsifiable objective reality independent of his insecure ego...
What they dont know is that most people dont know much about politics, dont know much about policy, dont care to understand the details that make up the foundation any position, and dont think they need to care about understanding those details, because knowledge is not what they trust most in the world.
What they trust is character....
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How the Opposition Can Wound Trump (Original Post)
mcar
Feb 2017
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"What they trust is character...." Really? Trumps's own pussy-grabbing, women slandering,
Nitram
Feb 2017
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mcar
(42,278 posts)1. A few more snippets
...Remember, they dont know enough to know hes lying. What they can see is Trumps performance: the expressions of strength, the wit and charm (which are evident), and the braggadocio.
Yesterdays press conference was in fact a hot mess, but imagine watching it with the sound turned off so you dont know what the president is saying. Imagine watching the presidents gestures, his expression, his sparring with the press. Thats probably a close approximation of what his supporters experience when they watch the president on TV. Thats the extent to which most people assess the presidents policy views. It is styles mastery over substance...
The opposition must wound the president by focusing on his weakness.
Fact is, the president is weak. We saw that yesterday. When confronted with the fact that he did not win a bigger electoral victory than anyone since Reagan, he immediately backed down, spluttering something about how he had been given that information so its not his fault. Some have implied he will never accept the truth, so dont bother. But thats an argument of logic and reason. What happened in that brief exchange needs to happen a million times over in order to reveal that the president is weak and that in that weakness his supporters have misplaced their trust.
So, say it with me: The president is weak...
Trump ran on strength. Only he was strong enough to solve our problems. And people believed him. They still believe him. But if the opposition can establish an image of weakness, it will come close to breaking trust in him.
Yesterdays press conference was in fact a hot mess, but imagine watching it with the sound turned off so you dont know what the president is saying. Imagine watching the presidents gestures, his expression, his sparring with the press. Thats probably a close approximation of what his supporters experience when they watch the president on TV. Thats the extent to which most people assess the presidents policy views. It is styles mastery over substance...
The opposition must wound the president by focusing on his weakness.
Fact is, the president is weak. We saw that yesterday. When confronted with the fact that he did not win a bigger electoral victory than anyone since Reagan, he immediately backed down, spluttering something about how he had been given that information so its not his fault. Some have implied he will never accept the truth, so dont bother. But thats an argument of logic and reason. What happened in that brief exchange needs to happen a million times over in order to reveal that the president is weak and that in that weakness his supporters have misplaced their trust.
So, say it with me: The president is weak...
Trump ran on strength. Only he was strong enough to solve our problems. And people believed him. They still believe him. But if the opposition can establish an image of weakness, it will come close to breaking trust in him.
Nitram
(22,766 posts)2. "What they trust is character...." Really? Trumps's own pussy-grabbing, women slandering,
name-calling, compulsive lying, flip-flopping (several times a day on the same topic), bragging, boasting, chest-puffing, whining, victim-playing, bitching, complaining character?
mcar
(42,278 posts)3. Scary, isn't it?
According to this writer, what they see is:
...they dont know enough to know hes lying. What they can see is Trumps performance: the expressions of strength, the wit and charm (which are evident), and the braggadocio.
I've spoken to several Trump supporters here in my red part of FL. They are all perfectly willing to overlook his abhorrent behavior, because he "tells it like it is," "will drain the swamp," or "is a business who will shake up Washington."
I have tried to tell them they can't separate these things but - they do.
Nitram
(22,766 posts)4. You're right, I've had conversations with these people too. But I still don't get it.
I think it's totally tribal and smell-based (like dogs smelling each others assholes). There's no logic to it because it is behavior thy would abhor in anybody else. He's their "Magic Christian". Their Big Daddy who will make everything all right.
Cha
(296,848 posts)5. trump is weak
Mahalo, mcar