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nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:33 PM Feb 2017

2022 will be the year Democrats regain control of the US Senate.

2018
Democrats are strongly favored to hold onto
CA-open-D
CT-Murphy-D
DE-Carper-D
HI-Hirono-D
ME-King-I/D
MD-Cardin-D
MA-Warren-D
MI-Stabenow-D
MN-Klobuchar- D
NJ-open-D
NM-Heinrich-D
NY-Gillibrand-D
PA-Casey-D
RI-Whitehouse-D
VT-Sanders-I/D
VA-Kaine-D
WA-Cantwell-D
WI-Baldwin-D
Democrats are slightly favored to hold onto
FL-Nelson-D
OH-Brown-D
Democrats are likely to lose
IN,MO,MT,ND,and WV -5D 43D 57R
Democrats are slightly favored to pick up
AZ-Synema-D +1D 44D 56R
NV-Titus-D +2D 45D 55R
2020
Democrats are strongly favored to hold onto
DE-Coons-D
IL-Durbin-D
MA-Markey-D
MI-Peters-D
MN-Franken-D
NH-Shaheen-D
NJ-Booker-D
NM-Udall-D
OR-Merkley-D
RI-Reed-D
Democrats are slightly favored to hold onto
VA-Warner-D
Democrats are slightly favored to pick up
CO-Salazar-D +1D 46D 54R
NC-Foxx-D +2D 47D 53R
2022
Democrats are strongly favored to hold onto
CA-Harris-D
CO-Bennet-D
CT-Bluementhal-D
HI-Schatz-D
IL-Duckworth-D
MD-Van Hollen-D
NY-Schumer-D
OR-Wyden-D
VT-Leahy-D
WA-Murray-D
Democrats are slightly favored to hold onto
NV-Cortez Masto-D
NH-Hassan-D
Democrats are slightly favored to pick up
MO-Kander-D +1D 48D 52R
NC-Stein-D +2D 49D 51R
PA-Shapiro-D +3D 50D 50R
WI-Pocan-D +4D 51D 49R


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2022 will be the year Democrats regain control of the US Senate. (Original Post) nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 OP
Hope you are right. femmocrat Feb 2017 #1
I have Manchin losing because WV is a ruby red state. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #4
Manchin has won five consecutive statewide elections by double digits. bornskeptic Feb 2017 #40
The Democratic US Senate incumbents in Trump states up for re-election in 2018 are nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #43
Kinda depressing to be honest yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #2
Let's hope Trump either pisses people off or scares the crap out of everyone so bad that there kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #3
I hope we still have an America by then! Initech Feb 2017 #5
WI-Pocan-D is a member of the House, not the Senate. milestogo Feb 2017 #6
I was predicting that Pocan would challenge Johnson in 2022 and defeat him. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #8
Feingold couldn't defeat him but Pocan will? milestogo Feb 2017 #10
After Feingold's defeat in 2010. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #16
He racked up that margin in a district that has virtually no Republicans dsc Feb 2017 #23
What about Ron Kind-D? What are his chances of defeating Walker-R in the 2018 WI Governors Race and nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #30
If I learned anything in 2016, it is not to count chickens before they hatch aikoaiko Feb 2017 #7
Thanks to Comey and Russia. Just saying. MoonRiver Feb 2017 #9
Clinton lost the 2016 US Presidential election because she failed to win MI,PA,and WI. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #12
And yet, Democrats today are not even getting close to Calista241 Feb 2017 #15
Yes, an example of why we shouldn't count chickens before hatching aikoaiko Feb 2017 #39
I think you are forgetting how low Trump may go before 2018 mvd Feb 2017 #11
With Trump as the president... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #13
I think Trump's unpopularity will keep 2018 gains to a minimum. And we can win back the Senate StevieM Feb 2017 #14
Let's say Democratic incumbents in ruby red states up for re-election in 2018 nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #19
0% chance TX flips, very good chance FL does poli3 Feb 2017 #21
FL is a Democratic held seats with Nelson-D. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #31
Talking about 2022 poli3 Feb 2017 #34
I don't think we can win Texas and I don't think we can win back the Senate before 2020. StevieM Feb 2017 #22
McCaskill already said she is in trouble. Last election, Repubs Alice11111 Feb 2017 #42
Coming from a Mainer, it is going to be VERY tough to beat Susan Collins. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #27
But you are assuming that Collins will be the GOP nominee. StevieM Feb 2017 #32
I highly doubt she runs for governor. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #38
I wasn't comparing her to Christine O'Donnell I was comparing her to Mike Castle, the Republican who StevieM Feb 2017 #41
Ah! I misread that. My apologies. You never know with the crazy GOP. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #46
No problem. Apparently I also wasn't paying close attention. I wrote "Snowe" rather than Collins. StevieM Feb 2017 #48
2020 and 2022 are far into the future La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #17
We and the freaking planet cannot WAIT THAT LONG!!!! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #18
The fed courts will be stacked for the next 30+ years by then Alice11111 Feb 2017 #44
maybe... I'm still optimistic about the Dem backlash against Trump Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #47
Why are you including NC, but leaving out FL? poli3 Feb 2017 #20
Rubio-FL won by a slightly wider margin than Burr-NC. nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #25
yeah, a 1% margin poli3 Feb 2017 #28
If my enthusiasm seems lacking sarisataka Feb 2017 #24
Let's work on sooner MFM008 Feb 2017 #26
I am old.... chillfactor Feb 2017 #29
This assumes that we still have a functioning America in 2022. Initech Feb 2017 #33
We have to wait that long??? bluescribbler Feb 2017 #35
More like 2032. nt CK_John Feb 2017 #36
2022 is too late. J_William_Ryan Feb 2017 #37
Total FUBAR way before then and it will be way too late to undo the damage. FreeStateDemocrat Feb 2017 #45

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. Hope you are right.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

In PA, people are p*ssed at Toomey. Lets' hope they remember in November (of 2022.) Interesting that you have Manchin losing in 2018.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
4. I have Manchin losing because WV is a ruby red state.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:19 PM
Feb 2017

I had the other Democratic US Senators from ruby red states losing re-election in 2018.

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
40. Manchin has won five consecutive statewide elections by double digits.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:03 PM
Feb 2017

IN 2012 Obama lost WV by 27 and Manchin won by 24. WV is red in presidential elections, but voter registration is still majority Democratic and Joe Manchin is a prototypical WV Democrat. it will take a major upset to beat him.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
43. The Democratic US Senate incumbents in Trump states up for re-election in 2018 are
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:22 PM
Feb 2017

FL-Nelson-D favored to win re-election.
IN-Donnelly-D vulnerable to defeat due to Pence-R campaigning for the Republican nominee.
MI-Stabenow-D favored to win re-election.
MO-McCaskill-D favored to win re-election
MT-Tester-D favored to win re-election.
ND-Heitkamp-D favored to win re-election
OH-Brown-D favored to win re-election.
PA-Casey-D favored to win re-election.
WV-Manchin-D favored to win re-election.
WI-Baldwin-D favored to win re-election.
Democrats will have a net gain of 1 seat, Lose IN, Gain NV and AZ. 49D 51R
In 2020
All Democratic US Senate incumbents up for re-election are favored to win re-election that includes
MI-Peters-D
MN-Franken-D
NH-Shaheen-D
VA-Warner-D
Democrats will pick up CO and NC. 51D 49R

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Kinda depressing to be honest
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

The 2020 especially when we have a democratic president, they will have to deal with a repug senate and possible house. Not great.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
3. Let's hope Trump either pisses people off or scares the crap out of everyone so bad that there
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:05 PM
Feb 2017

is a massive reaction against him and the Republicans. We cannot wait that long....

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
16. After Feingold's defeat in 2010.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:55 PM
Feb 2017

Baldwin-D won the 2012 US Senate Races against Thompson-R a popular 4 term former Governor.
Pocan-D is the male version of Baldwin, gay and progressive.
Baldwin-D and Pocan-D are stronger campaigners than Feingold-D
Pocan-D won 3 of his US House Races in WI-2CD by over 68 percent of the popular vote.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
23. He racked up that margin in a district that has virtually no Republicans
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

Feingold is a better candidate than he is and Pocan will have a hard time (Baldwin won with Obama winning by high single digits) while Pocan will be running with whomever we nominate for governor against Walker who will at best be in a very tight race.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
30. What about Ron Kind-D? What are his chances of defeating Walker-R in the 2018 WI Governors Race and
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:57 PM
Feb 2017

then defeating Johnson-R in the 2022 WI US Senate Race?

Feingold would have still been a member of the US Senate had he ran for the US Senate in 2012 against Thompson-R. Feingold would benefited from Obama coattails.
Baldwin then could challenge Johnson-R in 2016 and defeat him.

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
7. If I learned anything in 2016, it is not to count chickens before they hatch
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:28 PM
Feb 2017

Remember the Blue Wave of 2016? Yeah. That didn't happen.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
12. Clinton lost the 2016 US Presidential election because she failed to win MI,PA,and WI.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:41 PM
Feb 2017

Had she won the 3 states, She would have received 278 ev.
There was no ticket splitting in the US Senate Races.
Had McGinty-PA and Feingold-WI, Democrats would have regain control of the US Senate with Kaine breaking the tie vote.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. And yet, Democrats today are not even getting close to
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:52 PM
Feb 2017

The economic issues hat caused us to lose these three states.

We're going to the mat on immigration from countries 98% of the country couldn't find on a map.

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
39. Yes, an example of why we shouldn't count chickens before hatching
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:25 PM
Feb 2017

My point is that it isn't going to happen without a plan, hard work, and the right candidates. And even then, as in 2016, bad shit can happen.

mvd

(65,161 posts)
11. I think you are forgetting how low Trump may go before 2018
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:39 PM
Feb 2017

When the manufacturing jobs haven't magically come back, perhaps we hold on to the red state seats.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
13. With Trump as the president...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:42 PM
Feb 2017

I think it may happen sooner...and if we spend six years out of power... there will be nothing left.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. I think Trump's unpopularity will keep 2018 gains to a minimum. And we can win back the Senate
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:44 PM
Feb 2017

in 2020 if we win seats in places like Maine, Iowa and Georgia.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
19. Let's say Democratic incumbents in ruby red states up for re-election in 2018
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:07 PM
Feb 2017

IN-Donnelly-D,MO-McCaskill-D,MT-Tester-D,ND-Heitkamp-D,and WV-Manchin-D win re-election. and Democrats pick up AZ and NV. Democrats will be at a 50-50 tie with Pence-R breaking the tie.
2020- Democrats pick up CO and NC. Democrats will regain control of the US Senate.
If one of the Castro twins decide to challenge Cruz in 2018, How great of the chance Democrats win the TX US Senate Race in 2018?

poli3

(174 posts)
21. 0% chance TX flips, very good chance FL does
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:25 PM
Feb 2017

This is why it's ridiculous to speculate about TX, but ignore FL.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
31. FL is a Democratic held seats with Nelson-D.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:01 PM
Feb 2017

Are you saying that Nelson-D is vulnerable to defeat against Scott-R?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
22. I don't think we can win Texas and I don't think we can win back the Senate before 2020.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:27 PM
Feb 2017

But Manchin looked strong in polls taken right after the 2016 election. I think he can win. Heitkamp is probably the most vulnerable, followed by Donnelly. Tester, I think, is stronger than people realize. McCaskill might do OK, given that Jason Kander would have won had it not been for the FBI intervention. And I think his defeat might make some voters more likely to keep her, in part to have some balance.

I think Jeff Flake could run into challenges in his primary. If he loses then I think that seat is very winnable, since Arizona was absolutely flipped in the 2016 GE by Comey's actions. And I think Nevada looks very good.

I would be surprised if we lost more than a couple of seats, which would put the Senate at 54-46 GOP. It is conceivable that we could hold steady at 52-48 GOP.

In 2020 I think we can defeat Joni Ernst in Iowa, David Perdue in Georgia, Thom Tillis in North Carolina, Cory Gardner in Colorado, and pick up a seat in Maine if Collins retires--and maybe even if she doesn't.

A strong victory over Trump should carry in those 5 states. So even if we drop to 54-46 GOP in 2018 we could still be at 51-49 Dems by 2020.

I see your point about 2022 though. That will be the year that we are in good position to win seats in PA, WI, and NC, all of which we would have won (along with MO) had it not been for the FBI rigging the election. We might also pick up seats in OH, FL, AZ and IA.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
42. McCaskill already said she is in trouble. Last election, Repubs
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:10 PM
Feb 2017

targeted her. She would have lost for sure, but she got a break with the "legitimate rape," comment by her opponent. Then, the Repubs dropped the campaign against her, as it was a waist of money. I like her, but re-election in 50-50 at best IMHO.
Jason Kander of Mo (the former vet who put together the automatic rifle on tv, and then stated that people on the streets did not need those weapons) was doing well until the last few weeks when the Repubs slammed him with $$$ ads, and the Dems wouldnt cough up.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
27. Coming from a Mainer, it is going to be VERY tough to beat Susan Collins.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:56 PM
Feb 2017

The brand she has built is that of a moderate who reaches across the aisle to get things done. People up here basically view her as an independent and we love our independents (our other senator is an independent). Unseating her will require:

1) The DNC prioritizing this race and getting grassroots organizing up here.

2) Attacking Susan right away to chip away at her "moderate" brand. A lot of people are angry up here because she was the deciding vote to let Betsy DeVos pass committee and get a full senate vote.

3) Recruiting a STRONG candidate. Susan's last challenger was a dud and we don't have a very inspiring bench of candidates on the Dem side (a large reason why we have blowhard Lepage as our governor is weak Dem challengers). A progressive message works here. Bernie kicked Hillary's behind all across the state. The ideal candidate is Troy Jackson. He's the Senate minority leader, a vocal Bernie supporter, and a former logger from northern Maine who can speak to the more rural second district while running up the numbers in the more Democratic first district. Getting Bernie up here to speak with him in 2020, a presidential election year, would deliver Jackson the millennial vote as well. If he isn't the candidate, this is probably Susan's to lose.

She's not the most inspiring speaker either. She spoke at my high school graduation and I wanted to light myself on fire. She has a way of droning on and on and people tend to tune out. She can be defeated but people tend to underestimate how hard it will be because Maine usually votes blue for president.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
32. But you are assuming that Collins will be the GOP nominee.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:23 PM
Feb 2017

It is possible that she won't run for re-election. And it is also possible that she is defeated in a Republican primary. The GOP has forgotten all about the Christine O'Donnell debacle. And they are convinced that the polls are fake. So they will do what they want and convince themselves that they will win.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
38. I highly doubt she runs for governor.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:02 PM
Feb 2017

After two terms of Lepage the chances of the state electing another Republican for governor are slim. And if ranked choice voting is still in place by then, that makes a Republican's odds even more slim. Giving up the power she's gained in the senate to chase a seat that is leaning/likely D would be stupid.

And I don't see her retiring from the Senate either. Along with other moderates like Murkowski and at times McCain/Paul, she has a lot of power as a middleman. No legitimate Republican with a snowballs chance in hell of winning would primary her. She's the party's best shot to keep the seat and the GOP knows that. I disagree with Collins on a lot but she's no idiot like Christine O'Donnell.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
41. I wasn't comparing her to Christine O'Donnell I was comparing her to Mike Castle, the Republican who
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:08 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Christine O'Donnell defeated. I was suggesting that the GOP might nominate someone like O'Donnell instead of her.

But I agree that it won't be easy to beat her. I think Jeff Flake is much more likely to be defeated in a primary.

I am hoping that Collins gets so sick of Washington that she will just retire.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
46. Ah! I misread that. My apologies. You never know with the crazy GOP.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:07 PM
Feb 2017

But after two disastrous terms of a far right governor, I don't see someone more conservative than Collins primarying her. The climate in this state isn't favorable for that right now. Who knows though. Lepage leaves in 2018 and will probably challenge Angus King but King should be able to destroy him. I almost look forward to it.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
48. No problem. Apparently I also wasn't paying close attention. I wrote "Snowe" rather than Collins.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:29 PM
Feb 2017

I will have to edit my post.

Obviously Olympia Snowe retired a few years ago.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
44. The fed courts will be stacked for the next 30+ years by then
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:22 PM
Feb 2017

No abortion. War with Mexico. War Iran. Maybe China.
Public schools that just babysit, which they already do in some places. Mass emigration from US, and I may be one to go. Shooting from helicopters in national parks of bears, wolves...those liberal hikers could be in the way. Jailing journalists and demonstrators. Well, we all know the agenda, but it keeps getting worse as his paranoia increases.

poli3

(174 posts)
20. Why are you including NC, but leaving out FL?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:20 PM
Feb 2017

Performance-wise, Burr was closest to Rubio. If NC is winnable so is FL, otherwise neither are.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
25. Rubio-FL won by a slightly wider margin than Burr-NC.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:44 PM
Feb 2017

In FL- Gwen Graham -D assuming she gets elected FL Governor in 2018 could defeat Rubio.

poli3

(174 posts)
28. yeah, a 1% margin
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:57 PM
Feb 2017

Mostly due to the dems abandoning murphy, money that was supposed to be spent for murphy was distributed to other regions, had the original dem gameplan gone into effect in FL and the dems had effectively supported murphy, he would've done equal to Burr, and murphy would've done equal to ross.

sarisataka

(18,492 posts)
24. If my enthusiasm seems lacking
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:35 PM
Feb 2017

It is due to the fact recent prognostications of sweeping victories have not been especially accurate.

Instead I will repeat what I said back in September when I was told a Hillary victory and control of at least one, and possibly both houses of Congress were quote in the bag unquote.

- Never assume victory

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
26. Let's work on sooner
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:53 PM
Feb 2017

Than 5 years. Republicans can do too much damage in 5 years they need to be stopped as soon as possible.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
33. This assumes that we still have a functioning America in 2022.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:24 PM
Feb 2017

I hope the republicans don't kill it before then.

J_William_Ryan

(1,748 posts)
37. 2022 is too late.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:00 PM
Feb 2017

The Supreme Court will be lost by then, controlled by conservative ideologues and reactionaries – at which point it will make little difference whether Democrats control the Senate, or WH, for that matter.

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