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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:47 PM Feb 2017

Glenn Greenwald: Democrats 'Suddenly Love Leaks,' But Attacked Them Under Obama

by Josh Feldman | 12:20 pm, February 19th, 2017

Glenn Greenwald said on CNN’s Reliable Sources this morning that Democrats praising the Trump administration leaks are being pretty big hypocrites.

Greenwald pointed to fellow panelist Carl Bernstein in talking about the value and importance of journalists reporting on important matters based on leaks.

However, he said that people––Democrats in particular––seem to forget that it’s not like President Trump‘s attacks on leaks are without precedent:

“If you look at the last eight years, there has been a very concerted war on not just sources and whistleblowers, but also journalists, implemented by not Donald Trump but by the Obama administration. More sources prosecuted under the 1917 Espionage Act than in all previous administrations combined. Journalists such as James Rosen at Fox News and Jim Risen at The New York Times and those of us who worked on the Snowden reporting constantly threatened with prosecution or having our phone records subpoenaed and the like. And Democratic officeholders in D.C. were virtually unanimous in the idea that people who leak information that’s classified are villains, they’re traitors, they oughta go to prison.”


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Glenn Greenwald: Democrats 'Suddenly Love Leaks,' But Attacked Them Under Obama (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Conversely, publicans loved leaks under PBO, but suddenly hate them. ret5hd Feb 2017 #1
Good one Cha Feb 2017 #21
Yes absolutely. But we aren't under any illusions why that is. I'm constantly astonished that JCanete Feb 2017 #42
Not me. Jamaal510 Feb 2017 #2
GG is a RW tool mcar Feb 2017 #3
Yeah, he always seemed like one but he's totally outed himself now.. as Cha Feb 2017 #22
He really has mcar Feb 2017 #32
And Trump loved leaks, too - before the election! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #4
Trump loved leaks like a Russian whore... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #5
Leaks that expose and discredit fascism and bigotry; I very much approve bhikkhu Feb 2017 #6
Right... intention matters. Adrahil Feb 2017 #12
He can fuck himself. God he is an insufferable bastard. boston bean Feb 2017 #7
+1 grantcart Feb 2017 #13
Ditto. yardwork Feb 2017 #18
yes he is. irisblue Feb 2017 #33
Doesn't exonerate Trump, though, does it? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #8
Democrats still don't like GG. stopbush Feb 2017 #9
Greenwald's leaking his own illiberal, anti-Democrat Hortensis Feb 2017 #10
"Leak" vs whistle blower. Same as terrorist versus "freedom fighter." McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #11
Eat. My. Shit., Glenn Greenwald. DinahMoeHum Feb 2017 #14
If this was a balanced article he would attack both sides for this not just the Dems Quixote1818 Feb 2017 #15
I heard him being interviewed on Democracy Now about this and while I can understand his point of OnDoutside Feb 2017 #16
Speak for yourself. I prefer a leaky government regardless of the party in power. PSPS Feb 2017 #17
Amen. Dr. Strange Feb 2017 #23
Unchanged Glenn Greenwald asshole then asshole now. IADEMO2004 Feb 2017 #19
Getting a little touchy there aren't you Greenwald. Talk about hypocrites, he should look in the still_one Feb 2017 #20
Greenwald is a Russian whore...fuck him. roamer65 Feb 2017 #24
Can he quote any major Dem who Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #25
lol shut up Glenn JHan Feb 2017 #26
Still clueless after all these years struggle4progress Feb 2017 #27
Blow it out your nose, Greenwald. Utterly insufferable. catbyte Feb 2017 #28
Glenn Greenwald: Democrats 'Suddenly Love Leaks,' But Attacked Them Under Obama. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #29
Greenwald is the Hypocrite. He's the one who insists on nuance when its him being evaluated stevenleser Feb 2017 #30
+1 nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #35
Trump likes leaks Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #31
Poor baby has a sad that Poooty's gig is up. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #34
The Democrats did NOT SAY THEY LOVE LEAKS. What they did say is they do NOT like Russian still_one Feb 2017 #36
collusion, it is determined he also is on the payroll of putin Demonaut Feb 2017 #40
no doubt still_one Feb 2017 #41
I'm having a lot of trouble Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #37
The DNC leaked emails were done by Putin to take down the US. herding cats Feb 2017 #38
please fuck the hell off Glen, a foreign power made the leaks during the campaign Demonaut Feb 2017 #39
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
42. Yes absolutely. But we aren't under any illusions why that is. I'm constantly astonished that
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:14 AM
Feb 2017

Democrats still bash Snowden on this site to this day, harping on the laws he broke with no regard to the laws that our government was breaking, and lying to us about.

Cha

(297,043 posts)
22. Yeah, he always seemed like one but he's totally outed himself now.. as
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:24 PM
Feb 2017

being a tool for putin and trumputin

bhikkhu

(10,714 posts)
6. Leaks that expose and discredit fascism and bigotry; I very much approve
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:53 PM
Feb 2017

Leaks that undermine free and fair elections, and leaks designed to destabilize legitimate democracies, not so much.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. Right... intention matters.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:04 PM
Feb 2017

It's like Snowden. I applauded the release of information on illegal activities. I deplored his release of information on perfectly legal and legitimate operations.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Greenwald's leaking his own illiberal, anti-Democrat
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:02 PM
Feb 2017

wiring. Bless his heart, he can't help himself, and doesn't want to. Not that there are ANY differences at all between the Obama and 45 administrations....

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
11. "Leak" vs whistle blower. Same as terrorist versus "freedom fighter."
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:02 PM
Feb 2017

Depends on why the info is being disseminated. The "leaks" from the Clinton grand jury come to mind as leaks that are not intended to help. Whistleblowers are trying to protect our democracy.

Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
15. If this was a balanced article he would attack both sides for this not just the Dems
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:22 PM
Feb 2017

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I use to like Greenwald but he seems to want to damage the Democrats more than Republicans lately and it's disturbing. Is he really more concerned with Democrats right now than with the idiot in the WH????

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
16. I heard him being interviewed on Democracy Now about this and while I can understand his point of
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:39 PM
Feb 2017

view, I believe he is basing his opinion on a false equivalency, that lowlife acts perpetrated by Republicans and Trump during the Obama years, negate any requirement for balance when it comes to these criminals. What Democrats in general want to do is to improve people's lives, while there is no low point in the baseness of the Republicans and Trump, even to the extent of destroying America's place in the world by their traitorous acts with Putin. He cannot simply equate one with the other.

still_one

(92,115 posts)
20. Getting a little touchy there aren't you Greenwald. Talk about hypocrites, he should look in the
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:19 PM
Feb 2017

mirror at himself

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
25. Can he quote any major Dem who
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:11 PM
Feb 2017

has encouraged leaking the way Trump did during the campaign. Greenwald is just parroting a GOP talking point.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
30. Greenwald is the Hypocrite. He's the one who insists on nuance when its him being evaluated
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:40 PM
Feb 2017

Everyone else should be viewed under the same broad brush as if both situations are the same.

Let's all not forget this just happened:

https://goo.gl/LpijwY

Greenwald complained that the two situations aren't the same. He insisted on nuance.

Here is why its OK that Trump intel officials are leaking and its not OK with Snowden

- Trump is at war with the intelligence community and is trying to undermine them

- Trump and his campaign had inappropriate contact with Russia

- Intel officials have been trying to brief Trump and he seems resistant to taking their advice

- Intel officials are discussing this among themselves to try to figure out how to handle this

- Intel officials aren't looking for publicity for THEMSELVES

Whereas

- Snowden never attempted to approach the President

- His information was not new

- Snowden never attempted to discuss this with colleagues to determine if there was another way to handle the situation. He never made use of the inspector general, he never went to a senator, he never did anything. He wanted to play the hero.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. Trump likes leaks
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

Trump takes dump in cans that Trump likes
Trump makes plans in cans his rump likes

Trump likes ladies who leak on red beds

Trump hates leaks that fall on Trumps tweets
Trump likes leaks that fall on Trumps sheets

still_one

(92,115 posts)
36. The Democrats did NOT SAY THEY LOVE LEAKS. What they did say is they do NOT like Russian
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:35 PM
Feb 2017

interference with our election, or possible collusion of the trump administration with the Russians which may compromise our security

As is typical of Greenwald, when stories don't go the way he likes them, he distorts the focus to distract from the main point.

For several months now, Greenwald has been writing stories to pan the possibility of Russian interference and connection to the trump administration, going so far as to cast negative dispersions on the intelligence

If it turns out that there was Russian interference in our election, and the trump administration was also involved with that, it will be interesting to see how Greenwald tries to squirm his way out of the BS he has been spewing

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
38. The DNC leaked emails were done by Putin to take down the US.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:49 PM
Feb 2017

As Greenwald knows, since he's all too aware of what Russia was up to here in the US, and abroad.

The IC community leaking in an attempt to expose Trump's Russian ties is in Greenwald's eyes the same thing? Really, Glenn Greenwald, your biases are showing and it's a tad embarrassing to witness.

Oh, and the Democrats were involved in intel meetings which covered all of this, but their either not leaking, or they are and they're whistleblowers. If it's the latter then the hypocrite here is Greenwald.

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