Just want to make sure this stays in the discussion here.

[WinstonSmith4740]

I'm sure most of you have already seen this, and are on it, but we get new people here every day!!

Like everyone else here, I've been gritting my teeth about how twice since 2000, the will of the people has been subverted by the Electoral College. How do I get my apolitical friends to vote if they see their vote negated? After 2000, we basically sat back, wrung our hands, and bemoaned our fate. So it happened again. We can't let this continue. What to do? I haven't seen public involvement like this since the anti-war movement, and I know people want to do something, but don't know how to start.

Well, here it is. Check out your state's status on this and start putting pressure on the people responsible for changing it.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

[patricia92243]

1. knr

[vlyons]

2. First we have to take back state legislatures and governor slots

The next census is 2020, and that means redistricting in 2021. We first need to dump all the gerrymandered districts and the voter suppression. You can debate whether that is easier than amending the constitution to eliminate the electoral college. I happen to think that it is. But state legislation can have far more effect on peoples' lives.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. THIS. In 2017, VA & NJ governors and legislatures are up

Whoever gets elected there will have a say over the redistricting.

There are currently 33 states with GOP governors, 16 with Democratic, and 1 indie. There are 25 states that have GOP-controlled state legislatures (and various splits among the rest), Given this 2016 outcome, there will be no change to the electoral college given they were able to find the way to game it.

We need to get our states (our foundation) in order.

[WinstonSmith4740]

5. That's how this will work.

I understand your point, but we can't wait until the 2020 election. We have to make sure this system of choosing the president doesn't exist in 2020. The Constitution does not need to be amended for this. State legislators can do it, and yes, we sure as hell need to take them back. But this has worked in states with Republican led legislative bodies. It simply gets the state to pledge it's electoral votes to whoever wins the total popular vote, not just that state's. That way, two or three "swing states" don't get all the attention, money, and visits. Less than 80,000 people in 3 states put this idiot in the White House, while over 64,000,000 had their vote negated.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Repubs won't go for it...

they haven't won the Popular vote in this century, or millenium if you like.

[CK_John]

3. An another solution that looks backward instead of coming up with good candidates

for all offices from dog catcher to Governor.

[Blue_true]

6. Correct. Since something like 2/3 of states must ratify

a change to the Constitution, assuming legislatures, the majority of which are republican run will approve a change to the Consttution that takes power away from their candidate is simply wrong.

We need to focus on making the Democratic Party a bottom up party that brings in a lot of young, educated, idealistic people to run for local offices and state legislatures, from those people will come our future Democratic Presidents, but more importantly, those people will change backward policies as they rise and make their counties and states work better for common people.

[WinstonSmith4740]

9. A Constitutional Amendment is not necessary.

All that's necessary is for states with electoral college vote counts that total 270 to pledge their votes to whoever wins the popular vote. We're already 11 states totaling 165 electoral votes on board, 12 more states who have another 96 votes have passed it through one of their chambers already. If they flip, that brings the total to 261. We don't NEED the rethugs in Washington to get this done. It's all local.

[Wounded Bear]

8. Absolutely this....

need to start supporting the local offices and get the Dems out.

There are lots and lots of Dem votes in Trump country. We just need to get active, get offices working and candidates on ballots.