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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:38 PM Feb 2017

Russia's involvement in U.S. election was personally headed by Putin and Trump

This is so fucking important:

Putin selected which material to leak and when, creating a narrative that caused a disruption within the Democratic Party—which the press eagerly followed and elaborated, on release by release. But Putin may have had help in that planning.

Donald Trump denied Russian involvement despite being briefed on the evidence multiple times. Now the White House indicates that Trump may have already known Russia was involved, and that his request for Putin to hack Hillary Clinton’s email was far from a joke.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/15/1611318/-Russia-s-involvement-in-US-election-was-personally-headed-by-Putin-and-Trump

and:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146
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Russia's involvement in U.S. election was personally headed by Putin and Trump (Original Post) LaydeeBug Feb 2017 OP
"I'll just go on TV" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Feb 2017 #11
:) Lucinda Feb 2017 #12
It was a coup and people commited treason Botany Feb 2017 #2
Agreed if and I stress "if" Trump was involved in such backroom deals with Russia then yes its cstanleytech Feb 2017 #18
Trump mentioned Wikileaks 164 times in last month of election campaign progree Feb 2017 #20
Treason on the part of Trump and all Republicans involved workinclasszero Feb 2017 #33
KICK Cha Feb 2017 #3
When I heard the news about Russia's UN Ambassador "dying" today unexpectedly Pachamama Feb 2017 #4
Right on. Kath2 Feb 2017 #5
Certainly not the Russians - they wouldn't think twice of taking out anyone opposing them Pachamama Feb 2017 #7
Trump is dangerous. Kath2 Feb 2017 #8
Well, unless they claim "diplomatic immunity" and immediately ship the body to Russia... George II Feb 2017 #16
I tought the same thing too nt LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #19
I think the quotes should be around "unexpectedly." rzemanfl Feb 2017 #22
When I heard that, my first thought was - "hmmm, how convenient." calimary Feb 2017 #26
Duh! malaise Feb 2017 #6
Kick Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #9
Why, Comey? elias7 Feb 2017 #10
One theory floating around is that he did it to keep his line of investigation Lucinda Feb 2017 #13
Wow. Incredible read. elias7 Feb 2017 #30
Her entire blog is interesting reading! Lucinda Feb 2017 #31
Another theory LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #21
That's a bad theory... mikelewis Feb 2017 #32
Its a theory. It cannot be good or bad LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #34
No, it's not a gut thing. It's an innocent until proven guilty thing... mikelewis Feb 2017 #36
Kick! joet67 Feb 2017 #14
removal. jail. for Trump - and that's just for a start. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #15
interested to see what comes of this... dhill926 Feb 2017 #17
Important, but from December n/t Fiendish Thingy Feb 2017 #23
K & R FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #24
It would be nice to see current reporting on this. mn9driver Feb 2017 #25
This is not NEW information unlese you are seeing it for the first time. BadGimp Feb 2017 #27
It definitely warrants repeating. nt LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #29
K&R and Tweeted yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #28
K&R... spanone Feb 2017 #35

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
18. Agreed if and I stress "if" Trump was involved in such backroom deals with Russia then yes its
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:16 PM
Feb 2017

treason and if any Repugnant be it a Senator or a Congressman attempts to help him cover it up by trying to derail or stall an investigation then they should be charged as a co-conspirator.

progree

(10,901 posts)
20. Trump mentioned Wikileaks 164 times in last month of election campaign
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017
Trump mentioned Wikileaks 164 times in last month of election campaign, now claims it didnt impact one voter, 1/7/17

One person who thought Wikileaks and the hacked information could and should have an impact on the result was Donald Trump. In the final month of the campaign Trump mentioned Wikileaks every day and in virtually every public appearance.

Trump mentioned Wikileaks in each presidential debate, which were watched by tens of millions of people.

Trump described the contents of the emails released by Wikileaks as disqualifying Hillary Clinton from the presidency. Trump used Wikileaks as proof to his claims that she was corrupt and the system was corrupt— both the political system and the media. (The media, Trump insisted, would not cover Wikileaks.)

Trump encouraged his supporters to read Wikileaks. He delighted in each new release. He marveled at the damage Wikileaks was doing to her campaign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028444159

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Trump talked about Wikileaks incessantly during last month of campaign, analysis finds,

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-talked-about-wikileaks-incessantly-during-last-month-of-campaign-analysis-finds-175831999.html

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“I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said at a news conference in July.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rips-white-house-for-russia-comments-why-did-they-only-complain-after-hillary-lost-150438524.html



 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
33. Treason on the part of Trump and all Republicans involved
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:32 PM
Feb 2017

and Jill Stein let's not forget her part in the plot.

As far as Putin hacking our presidential election....

That is an act of war.

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
4. When I heard the news about Russia's UN Ambassador "dying" today unexpectedly
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:49 PM
Feb 2017

I immediately asked myself:

Did he die because of what he knows about conversations between Trump campaign and Russia and was a contact, or because he may be a source about it?



I think it wasn't natural causes and it is one of those two reasons.

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
7. Certainly not the Russians - they wouldn't think twice of taking out anyone opposing them
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

But then again Traitor Trump acknowledged we are killers too...

Kath2

(3,074 posts)
8. Trump is dangerous.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:05 PM
Feb 2017

i just hope he gets impeached or is forced to resign before he does more damage.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Well, unless they claim "diplomatic immunity" and immediately ship the body to Russia...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:59 PM
Feb 2017

....there most likely will be some kind of involvement by the ME, maybe even an autopsy.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
22. I think the quotes should be around "unexpectedly."
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:42 PM
Feb 2017

Whatever the cause, the man is unquestionably deceased. I had the same suspicions the moment I saw the headline and thought of the unexpected death at the Russian Embassy on Election Day.

elias7

(3,997 posts)
10. Why, Comey?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:38 PM
Feb 2017

What makes no sense to me is why Comey would sabotage Clinton with such flimsy material 11 days before an election when he was aware of much of this stuff between Trump and Putin.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
21. Another theory
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:41 PM
Feb 2017

He was promised a healthy cut on the potential billions from new real estate and oil profits.

mikelewis

(4,079 posts)
32. That's a bad theory...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:27 PM
Feb 2017

There's not one shred of evidence to back that up. While his actions pre-election are puzzling, a traitor he is not.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
34. Its a theory. It cannot be good or bad
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 05:41 PM
Feb 2017

Unless you have a shred of evidence that Comey is not in on it it remains a theory. There are billions upon billions in potential profits. But Comey is immune to greed? His one-sided actions were "puzzling"? Yet you dismiss this out of hand and refuse to entertain any possibility that this puzzling behaviour could have any nefarious origin....because......your gut tells you he's a swell guy?

mikelewis

(4,079 posts)
36. No, it's not a gut thing. It's an innocent until proven guilty thing...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:16 PM
Feb 2017

For that matter, prove you're not a Russian spy. Director Comey, despite the bizarre, seemingly unexplainable interjection into our election has not made any moves that lead me to believe he is involved at any level. In fact, certain things he's done have more than reassured me that he's on the country's side... he's an ally, and until you can provide evidence to the contrary, I'll believe my eyes and not innuendo on a chat site.

dhill926

(16,336 posts)
17. interested to see what comes of this...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Feb 2017

not holding my breath though. Gotta be extremely difficult to prove allegations....

mn9driver

(4,423 posts)
25. It would be nice to see current reporting on this.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

And that isn't going to happen without a real investigation and real hearings.

Which so far do not look like they are actually going to happen.

BadGimp

(4,015 posts)
27. This is not NEW information unlese you are seeing it for the first time.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:23 PM
Feb 2017

But I suspect that may be the case for many.

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