We can all agree that undocumented workers who have committed serious crimes should be sent home...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

We can all agree that undocumented workers who have committed serious crimes should be sent home *, but I fail to see the efficacy or morality of deporting undocumented workers who are productive, law abiding, and have ties to the community.

Maybe they shouldn't have been here in the first place, but if folks didn't give them jobs they couldn't have stayed. It seems cruel to make them leave now.





*after they served their sentence.obviously it was implied.

[irisblue]

1. maybe those who hired them

knowing that the person was undocumented should go to jail and face heavy fines.

[el_bryanto]

5. That's so crazy it just might work.

But wait - those are corporations - which do we have an easier time picking on - helpless undocumented immigrants or medium to big companies?

[TheDebbieDee]

8. Laws like those are already on the books in most

States but they're not being enforced. Basically there is no punishment for employing undocumented workers...

[treestar]

11. That could hurt the economy

These workers are part of it.

[jmg257]

2. Do we pass laws now saying hiring undocumented

Workers is a crime, and with heavy fines?

Then what do we do with all the unemployed?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. DSB's immigration plan

-Enhance border security
- For those undocumented workers who can prove good character and ties to the community they should be given a path to citizenship which includes the payment of some sort of fine commensurate with income.
- Undocumented workers who have committed serious crimes should be sent back home.
- Once this system is in place employers who knowingly hire undocumented workers should be fined.

[PoliticAverse]

10. Hiring undocumented workers is already against the law. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. When I go into stores in CA I always see the E Verify posters.

I suspect a lot of undocumented workers do contract or private work.

[PoliticAverse]

13. Many people here without legal authority apparently use fake documents which pass "E Verify". n/t

[WillowTree]

16. If those fake documents are Social Security numbers/cards, that's a felony.

That's what got that lady in Arizona deported recently.

[sinkingfeeling]

4. I'll take living with undocumented immigrants over

bigots any day. I really enjoy living in an area that probably couldn't economically survive without undocumented workers (NW Arkansas, home of chicken farms, Tyson's, George's, and Walmart). Great Hispanic grocery stores and restaurants and festivals.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I wonder if the Deplorables realize how undocumented workers make their lives better.

[TheDebbieDee]

9. They won't realize til they're paying $10 for a salad

This summer.

[Blanks]

7. Even undocumented workers who have committed serious crimes...

Aren't as dangerous to society as the 'sovereign citizens'. If we're gonna do something about someone, I'd prefer we start there.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

14. I think the wording is a trap...undocumented workers who

commit any violent crime or crime of a sexual nature need to be exported AFTER being convicted and serving their sentence. If they are just deported without doing the time they will just come back and be a threat again right away.

[rgbecker]

15. Rather than sending these criminals home, they should tried in courts of law,

and if convicted, imprisoned as the law requires. I think the system fails when they are simply deported, at the random say of who knows who, only to return and resume the lawlessness.

Of course there are laws prohibiting hiring of undocumented. For example, not having a SS # or other tax number. But false ids are presented leaving the employer to do the work of finding out who they are. But is this so unusual? Try getting a job without being able to show a credit report, giving references and presenting at least a driver's license.

The system set up for the owner, not the worker, and the workers will get screwed until the system is changed.

[jberryhill]

18. Bingo...

If deportation is the sentence for crimes, it creates a perverse incentive.

[jberryhill]

17. Ummm... shouldn't they go to prison?

If someone commits a murder, I don't think the sentence should be a trip to Mexico.