Podesta: 'Forces within the FBI' may have cost Clinton election

[workinclasszero]

Podesta: 'Forces within the FBI' may have cost Clinton election
By Aidan Quigley 02/21/17 12:50 PM EST

Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said Monday that “forces within the FBI” may have sought to elect Donald Trump as president.

“There are at least forces within the FBI that wanted her to lose,” Podesta said during an interview with John Heilemann hosted by NewCo. Podesta offered no evidence to back-up his speculation. “I’m not sure they really understood the alternative, but they wanted her to lose. I think that’s one possibility.”

These “forces” could have played a role in FBI Director James Comey’s controversial decision to alert Congress 11 days before the election that the FBI was evaluating more of Clinton’s emails, Podesta said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/john-podesta-fbi-clinton-election-trump-235229

[yallerdawg]

1. "Forces within the FBI"?

Just say "Comey" - or is that kind of...dangerous?

[workinclasszero]

2. That was my thought too

Forces within the FBI = Russian mole Comey.

[MattP]

3. NY office and Comey

[workinclasszero]

4. Oh right

The NY FBI office was involved too, forgot about them.

[NotThisTime]

13. Like no kidding....

[DefenseLawyer]

5. Clicking on a "change your password" scam email probably didn't help either, John. n/t

[dalton99a]

6. +1

[anneboleyn]

9. Seriously. Who in that kind of position makes an error like that? Sigh. Water under the bridge and

all that...but I do wish he'd been a bit more savvy about the possibility of hacking and very obvious phishing attacks.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. he did the right thing. he forwarded it to IT who told him he should do it.

honestly, this is not Podesta's fault.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

14. IT also

sent him the correct link to use in order to change the password, which he didn't do.

He owns some of the fault for this.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. yes and no. he fucked up email security for himself.

many people colluded to make those emails sounds as though they were out of the norm for politicians and campaigns to have.

we got hacked, because we were open to being hacked. not just podesta.

[Blue_true]

22. Yeah, Podestal made an abundant number of stumbles on his own.

Should never manage another Democrat's Presidential campaign.

[Rex]

23. What a rookie mistake.

I can't believe he fell for a simple spoof. I doubt he will take any responsibility.

[Else You Are Mad]

7. Podesta...

Had A LOT to do with Clinton's loss -- even more so than Comey. If the campaign was strong enough, the leaks and letter wouldn't have cost Clinton the election. No amount of finger pointing will change that fact.

[njhoneybadger]

8. Holy Mother of God, may have, possibility, could have

[Iggo]

10. Urgent message for Sherlock!

"No shit."

[Gothmog]

11. Comey is pond scum and lacks any professional or other ethics

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. +1

[Orsino]

16. Reducing the outcome to a single but-for is stupid.

Many, many forces were arrayed against Clinton's candidacy.

[Chemisse]

26. The Comey incident was the clincher though.

After that, we watched her fall in the polls with no way to recover in time. Still, it seemed she had to win. But no. And Comey is mostly at fault for this.

[Orsino]

30. I don't think we can conclude that.

Trying to isolate the alleged effect of a single MSM turd is like trying to build a cow out of a truckload of hamburger.

[Chemisse]

35. I think most people would blame this incident, although it didn't happen in isolation.

It was hardly a turd; she was dumped on with a truckload of manure.

There were plenty of other factors that hurt her. The email "scandal" drippage was deadly; so many people hated her before she even ran; she was a woman so expectations were more stringent; Bill made terrible comments about Obamacare; and many others. Trump's poll numbers should have been much lower. But she was still on a winning trajectory before this happened.

[Orsino]

36. In the grand scheme of things, this was a blip.

This is an old refrain for me, but when networks gifted Trump with US$3 billion in free airtime and who knows how much dark money was funneled for Trump or against Clinton (who had enjoyed three decades as the MSM's Cruella DeVille, while Trump was sold as a real-estate and hoteluer genius), and over a hundred million people decided not to vote for her, whatever effect Comey may have had will never be distinct from noise.

He may have made his move last, but the election loss is no more his fault than any of the other bad actors. There is, as you say, no such thing as isolation.

[jmg257]

18. Well - thanks, John - I can see why you were in charge! may have, could have, 1 possibility

Brilliant.

[Initech]

19. Comey is a traitor.

[workinclasszero]

20. Totally

He sold out America for his party like all Republicans.

[triron]

21. What about the Russian hacking? Why does Podesta avoid that topic???

[uponit7771]

24. No... no Podesta... Comey is a political hack and the FBI is forever tainted because of this ...

... political hack and the admitted political hacks in the FBI which are small in number but very loud voices.

Voices loud enough to unprofessionally and in an unpatriotic way change and election

[Boomerproud]

25. Geez, let's get tough and forceful, eh Johnny?

He reminds of Sandy Berger and some other Clintonites who could never say a straight forward sentence.

[truebluegreen]

27. I thought it was Russia.

Or sexism.
Or Republican lies.
Or Bernie.

Jill?


???

[Orrex]

31. Well...

I thought it was Russia.

Almost certainly to some degree or another, even though she still won by a huge popular majority.

Or sexism.

How is that a question? It continues even now, despite the fact that she won by a huge popular majority.

Or Republican lies.

But you repeat yourself. And of course she still won by a huge popular majority.

Or Bernie.

Probably not. Any Sanders supporter stupid enough to withhold a sour grapes vote for Clinton wasn't going to vote for her anyway. And even without them, she still won by a huge popular majority.

Jill?

Meh. Trivial. Though admittedly she was an asshole during the campaign and continues to be an asshole in the aftermath. Regardless, Clinton she won by a huge popular majority.

No single factor didn't propel Resident Chump into office, so why should we imagine that a single factor undermined Clinton's campaign?

[truebluegreen]

32. That was actually my point.

The necessity of looking at the big picture as opposed to batting off after the culprit du jour.

Btw the big picture needs to include policies, which somehow never get mentioned either way.

[Orrex]

33. Ah--I totally misread you.

Yes, there's a tendency to lose sight of the big picture for the sake of immediate details.

forest/trees

[truebluegreen]

34. s'OK

[spanone]

28. DUH!

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[MFM008]

29. And all he's done since

Is torch the intelligence services.