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Good lord what a disaster. Fox stooges trying to claim that Spicer only invited a few dozen (he only had room for a few dozen! And they just happened to be conservative!), and it was on-record but off-camera, but of course that meant that CNN, The NY Times, and every other responsible news agency was not invited (and the AP and Time walked out).
Gee, crybabies, because big bad CNN might ask a question about the FBI?! Poor widdle Trump.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)conservative/Trumper viewpoint. Obviously Fox reaches many more people than a fringe source like Breitbart so it might be a good idea to have some idea of what they are claiming about significant news stories.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Any with integrity should walk out.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)josepharonesty
(1 post)Besides the daily dissaray, heres what Ive noticed about Donald Trumps first weeks in office. Trump asks for everything first, and settles for what he can get later.
He started by asking that the Republican ethics committee be disbanded. That way his shenanigans and back door deals could go undetected. That try failed.But he tried, right?
He asked for a Muslim ban, and when that did not work he has it rephrased so it has a better chance. This is what he calls the art of the deal, is it not? Actually, this is a very old carnie business prototype that I learned in the 1980s with Trump from survivors of the Great Depression the then old folks, those who could remember the Nuckie Thompson days of Atlantic City. Its also a technique used by salesmen of high-priced blind items, like diamonds. They ask for the moon, settle for what you can get. Not really an art is it?
But Donald Trump did not think this through. As a businessman, you can do this sort of negotiating over and over again, because no one is following you around from deal to deal. The deals are made in back rooms. It does not get old real fast.
But when you are the president of a free and open society there is some transpapressrency on deals. This is why he says the press is our enemy. What a lie that statement is. It is totally the opposite of the truth.
And so, the modus operandi of asking for too much first, gets exposed, but only if there is a free press. It makes the POTUS look like an unprepared clown, which lowers his standing in the publics minds and also in the minds of those he might be negotiating with, like foreign rulers. He becomes a less effective negotiator. It works only if his offers can be made in secrecy, and hopefully he wont have much of that back room secrecy as president. We need a free press more then ever.
And this is what Trump did not figure out. He thought that being president of the USA would be just like being president of Trump Inc. But its not. There is scrutiny. And that scrutiny has already got him alientated by almost everyone but his base. Even his base is now beginning to see through his rough edges. In the end, all he will have left are the haters and his swamp creatures. There are not that many of them. Most folks really know we had a good thing going here in the USA. It wont be long. He has got to go.
This is also why he has made so few position choices in the last 30 days. To work for Donald Trump, you have to abandon your priviate ideas of what America is, and swear to protecting the secrets of Donald Trump. This way, he can get his private agenda done and not get exposed.
And we all know what Trumps private agenda has been and what it has always been: to get richer. That oil deal for Putin, since they have him blackmailed for tax evasion, is #1 on his list. But it wont stop there. Beware.
Today, Trump says if you dont share his vision of America you should step down from office. Tomorrow, he will say if you dont share his vision of America, you are a criminal. Thats is how they got normal Germans to be Nazi enforcers. Its coming folks. He wont let anyone stop his greed disease, because it is a disease, an addiction to fill up the void of his life. Judges, dead war heroes, protestors, not even the Pope has yet stopped this addict from getting his fix.
But those loyal to him are going down with his ship just the way Hitlers henchmen did. They should think about that. They are risking it all for him. And he was a draft dodger who risked nothing for others ever.
Trump is a cancer. He does what a cancer does. He eats and eats and tries not to be detected. The free press is the immune system of our democracy. We need to bolster that immune system more than ever before, because we are under attack by a cancer.
RAISE OUR VOICES!
renate
(13,776 posts)I suspect you're right about his use of that carny trick and how it's probably worked for him in the past. And I also wonder whether he asks for the moon not only as part of making a deal but just because he hasn't yet realized there are limits on presidential power and honestly believed the president could get the moon just because the president wanted it. It's not as though he seems to have any knowledge about how our government actually works.
I love what you said about the free press being the immune system of our democracy.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)we need all the raised voices we can get
Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)FOX will be shut out soon too.
Bannon's words yesterday should be a signal that this is a full on fascist regime and they're going to try to destroy the media, FOX will not be immune.
People are still way way too calm. We are going to calm ourselves when they start marching our neighbors to the ovens. This is happening in America, it is happening right now.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)and that traitor Priebus is serious fucking business.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)I wouldn't be thinking that was a good thing.
The networks need to pass on the next one.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)They'll do whatever inspires loyalty among their viewers, so they'll keep tuning in and watching ads. That's really all that matters.
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)They don't want any uncomfortable questions asked of them.
And there are so many unanswered questions with this sleaze.
He's only been at this a month. At this rate he'll run out of
credible media reps before summer is here.