Forget that he's Muhammad Ali's son

[malaise]

An American born citizen, his American born mother and his American born ex-wife were detained and questioned for more than two hours on why his name is Muhammad. They were returning home from a vacation in Jamaica. Is it fascism yet?

[tblue37]

1. K&R for visibility. nt

[Else You Are Mad]

2. This is going to kill tourism. nt.

[mopinko]

32. already is.

12% drop so far.

[mcar]

3. Yep

They're detaining Americans now.

[LAS14]

4. Link or citation?

[Beaverhausen]

5. link

http://people.com/politics/muhammad-ali-jr-detained-by-immigration/

[malaise]

6. Why isn't this all over Network and Cable news?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/muhammad-ali-son-detained-questioned-us-border-control

[Historic NY]

7. I have a kid in our

fire dept. with that name and his brothers have others from the bible....got to wonder what would happen to them. I'm sure they had the chipped passports, was this just to intimidate.

[spanone]

8. fucking trumpworld. it will only get worse.

[iluvtennis]

9. Wow, SMDH. This has got to stop. #Resistance

[Solly Mack]

10. And he was repeatedly asked about his religion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/02/25/muhammad-alis-son-reportedly-detained-at-airport-asked-twice-about-his-religion/?utm_term=.9f4059cd9ff5

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/muhammad-ali-son-detained-questioned-us-border-control

[pinboy3niner]

11. His dad brought a religious issue to the Supreme Court. As I recall, he won--unanimously. :) nt

[Brother Buzz]

23. Wait, wait, that was Cassius Clay, and it was Muhammad Ali who took the victory lap

403 U.S. 698 (91 S.Ct. 2068, 29 L.Ed.2d 810)

Cassius Marsellus CLAY, Jr. v. UNITED STATES.

No. 783.

Argued: April 19, 1971.

Decided: June 28, 1971.

per_curiam, per_curiam [HTML]
concurrence, DOUGLAS [HTML]
concurrence, HARLAN [HTML]
Chauncey Eskridge, Chicago, Ill., for petitioner.

Solicitor Gen. Erwin N. Griswold for respondent.

........

Amazing what happened in those five tumultuous years, and the nation's view on the war in Viet Nam. In the beginning, the press wouldn't go near the name, Muhammad Ali, and in the end he was totally vindicated, and heralded as a hero.

[HAB911]

12. It's nuts: 70-year-old Australian author interrogated and held by border agents

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/like-being-in-guantanamo-70-year-old-canadian-author-interrogated-and-held-by-border-agents/

[HipChick]

13. Waiting for the folks coming back from the Trini Carnival...

Based on the cultural makeup of the population, lets see who gets detained..

[malaise]

28. True true

Should make a scary Ash Wednesday

[George II]

14. He was born in PHILADELPHIA! But I guess to them he "looked" dangerous (i.e., black) Disgusting.

[IronLionZion]

15. Their family has been here longer than the Trumps

It's white supremacy. It's promoting the belief that there is only one type of American. One type of skin color. One type of name. One type of religion. Anyone else is foreign, even if Plymouth rock landed on them.

It's infuriating. I'm brown. My family gets very similar questions on why we have Christian names. Yes, even on domestic flights. It's out of control.

I can see an increase in cross country driving in America's future.

[malaise]

29. Precisely

It is white supremacy

[pinboy3niner]

30. A Syrian immigrant friend is no longer planning a trip to visit family in Homs

Last year he told me he'd make another trip there in 2 years. When I asked a couple days ago when he's going, he frowned and said "Ten years."

And he's a U.S. citizen, Christian, and a supporter of Assad.

[IronLionZion]

31. Well I wouldn't want to go there either because of the war

and I know people who have gone there to see the historical tourist sites as well as some Syrian-American Christian US citizens who still have family over there.

Christians and minorities support Assad because it's a secular government. In that part of the world the only choices are a secular dictatorship or a religious theocracy, both are bad but one is less likely to murder your family.

[pangaia]

16. When I returned a few weeks ago from visiting Toronto,

which I do several times a year, the asshole border guard looked at my passport... which must have entry stamps and visas from at least 15 countries, and said, "So, you were in Oman !"

Before I got out the words. fuck you shit head," I said, "yes."

She asked why was I there. Without giving away too much info here, I basically said I was there at the personal invitation of a Colonel in the ROYAL GUARD OF OMAN. That almost stopped her in her racks.
But not quite.
After a couple other explanations, I was let in to the wonderful US of A.

After I got back on the bus, I did say "Fuck you, asshole." And felt a little better, but not much.

[Wellstone ruled]

17. Shows one just how ignorant

TSA and Border Agents are. Believe Muhammad is the most common given first name to most males within the Islamic Faith. Hyphenated names are the rule in Countries of the Mid East as well as other Countries around the world.

[suffragette]

18. Yes, this is the core of the matter.

[HockeyMom]

19. A US Citizen with Passport coming back from Jamaica?

Any idea how many citizens in that situation there are? Last time we came back from a cruise in the Caribbean all Customs said was HOLD UP your US Passports. Did not check your NAMES to see if they were not Anglo/Saxon sounding. Next? Anything that remotely sounds Hispanic????

This has got to STOP. America is not Nazi Germany.

[Fritz Walter]

20. "First, they came for the Muslims...

...and I did not speak out -- Because I was not Muslim.

Then, they came for the LGBT people, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not LGBT.

Then, they came for the protesters, and I did not speak out -- Because it was too cold, parking was so inconvenient/expensive, and I had other plans that day.

Then, they came for the (real) journalists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was too lazy to pay attention to current events (Hey, did you catch the latest episode of ___?).

Then, they came for me, but there was no one left to speak for me.

With all due respect to Martin Niemöller.

#RESIST

[malaise]

22. True

This is frightening

[gopiscrap]

26. Exactly

[Fritz Walter]

21. First, they came for the Muslims...

...and I did not speak out -- Because I was not Muslim.

Then, they came for the Mexicans and other Latinos, but I did not speak out -- Because I'm not Hispanic.

Then, they came for the LGBT people, and I did not speak out -- Because I'm straight.

Then, they came for the protesters, and I did not show up or speak out -- Because it was too cold, parking was so inconvenient/expensive, and I had other plans that day.

Then, they came for the (real) journalists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was too lazy to pay attention to current events (Hey, did you catch the latest episode of ___?).

Then, they came for me, but there was no one left to speak for me.

With all due respect to Martin Niemöller.

#RESIST

[Warpy]

24. I know tribal people from the Pueblos

and a lot of them have horror stories of trying to come back across the border after going to Mexico on business or pleasure. They were here thousands of years before the Spanish showed up and even longer before the Anglos showed up and their skin color makes nitwit border guards think "Mexican, trying to pass." Idiots!

This bullshit has been happening forever for some people. It's just been ramped up and extended to more, like that writer of childrens' books from Australia who was grilled for two hours, probably because some goon was bored and wanted to practice on somebody.

However, some of this has gone on forever. Check some of the comments at the story at abc.au: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/mem-fox-detained-at-los-angeles-airport-by-us-officials/8303366

[malaise]

25. Good post

[ProudProgressiveNow]

27. K&R nt