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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 01:09 PM Feb 2017

Have you ever heard two elderly relatives that can't get a past slight?

"You stole my boy friend in the 11th grade!" "Dad blamed me for breaking his fishing pole, when YOU did it!"

I am SO tried of the determined few on DU that can't let the Bernie Hillary divide go!

1. There is no doubt Hillary was robbed of the presidency!

2. Bernie Sanders is an independent, but votes more like a New Deal Democrat than others in the party such as Joe Manchin.

3. Saying the Democratic Party needs a new approach at both the state and national level is NOT an indictment of Hillary Clinton.

4. Saying Bernie can be a bit preachy and unrealistic is valid!

Folks, we are facing the loss of America democracy as we know it, so don't want to hear anymore shit about Bernie v Hillary, aka who stole who's boyfriend. Give it a rest and fight with Tom Perez AND Keith Ellison for the future!

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Have you ever heard two elderly relatives that can't get a past slight? (Original Post) Chasstev365 Feb 2017 OP
DURec leftstreet Feb 2017 #1
I agree. Give Bernie credit for working for the Democratic party The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #2
Nicely stated. CrispyQ Feb 2017 #4
I'll give him and his supporters credit all right. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #27
This is EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT: Got to get the last dig in! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #28
OP after OP, thread after thread, post after post. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #30
So, I can only conclude you like to lose! mountain grammy Feb 2017 #42
Some people can't help themselves ornotna Feb 2017 #3
Love your sentiment... CBHagman Feb 2017 #9
+10000 progressoid Feb 2017 #15
Bernie and Hillary are both great people. Doreen Feb 2017 #5
With different ideas and the same goal, the decisions are always better. Four heads better than one SharonAnn Feb 2017 #6
K&R NotThisTime Feb 2017 #10
Well said! Freedomofspeech Feb 2017 #7
K&R. This should be a pinned post! bullwinkle428 Feb 2017 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #11
Agreed butdiduvote Feb 2017 #13
I agree! murielm99 Feb 2017 #14
YES seta1950 Feb 2017 #21
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2017 #34
There you go again nolabels Feb 2017 #22
Yup. calimary Feb 2017 #23
The post you responded to has been removed so I don't have context moonscape Feb 2017 #29
Hmmm... sorry it got removed. calimary Feb 2017 #33
Have you forgotten Gore actually "won" like Hillary did. Why blame Brazile for stepping into... brush Feb 2017 #40
Go to the link for 'My Bookmarks' Maeve Feb 2017 #24
outstanding Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #25
Yes, we got it the first 2,000 times you posted about it . ;. hatrack Feb 2017 #26
Hear, Hear! mwooldri Feb 2017 #12
I said in another thread that perhaps DU needs a "Post-Election 2016" forum. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2017 #16
Yes malaise Feb 2017 #17
Agree.. ananda Feb 2017 #18
I have never been anything here but a hard core Democrat Cary Feb 2017 #19
I'm ready for the Hillary/Bernie primaries to be over Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #20
What he did was condescending and really disrespectful. Dream Girl Feb 2017 #31
I agree that was very disrespectful and if he knows so much why isn't he POTUS? Because it lunasun Feb 2017 #32
kick coco22 Feb 2017 #35
Truly, enough of this shit, give it a freakin rest, it's so beneath most of you who are doing it. JudyM Feb 2017 #36
It has been my experience all along that most Hillary supporters want the infights to stop, but butdiduvote Feb 2017 #37
Lets get to task bdamomma Feb 2017 #38
++10000000000000000000000000 CousinIT Feb 2017 #39
K&R. It is the same people over, and over, and over... demmiblue Feb 2017 #41
Agree. "It is the same people over, and over, sammythecat Feb 2017 #46
AMEN....n/t bluecollar2 Feb 2017 #43
Abner! Abner! NurseJackie Feb 2017 #44
this nt heaven05 Feb 2017 #45
Bewitched! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #48
Hmmm...I wonder...is relentless side-taking like being a sports fan? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #47

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
2. I agree. Give Bernie credit for working for the Democratic party
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 01:15 PM
Feb 2017

regardless of whether he formally joins it; accept the fact that the DNC needs a thorough review of its methods and future goals; and give Perez and Ellison a chance to work together to fix what needs fixing.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
27. I'll give him and his supporters credit all right.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:41 PM
Feb 2017

Same credit we give Nader in Florida in 2000.

But we have to let that go, and forget all about it...

ornotna

(10,798 posts)
3. Some people can't help themselves
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 01:21 PM
Feb 2017

They see that stick laying there by that dead horse and they just can't seem to walk away.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
5. Bernie and Hillary are both great people.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:03 PM
Feb 2017

They both care about us and the USA. Yes, they go about it in different ways but they are both working for it. I think taking these problems we have from different directions is good because that does not get us into tunnel vision trying to fix it. Just listen open minded to Bernie's ideas as you do to Hillary's because they both have very good points and will work together and with Perez and Ellison to fix this. I personally like the fact that all four of them have different ideas and are willing to work them to a point where they can combine them to work for us. Look forward not back.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
6. With different ideas and the same goal, the decisions are always better. Four heads better than one
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
13. Agreed
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

Those of us who have issues with Bernie, whether policy-based or based on his campaign conduct (ot both), are sick of people trying to force us to love him. It's an almost cult-like insistence that not only love him but practically deify him. I don't like Bernie Sanders. No amount of shoving him down my throat is going to convince me I want this to become the Bernie Sanders Party.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
23. Yup.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:59 PM
Feb 2017

I still want to like the guy. I used to.

What you describe, NoGoodNamesLeft, is why I used to like Chris Hayes on MSNBC. Now, unfortunately, not so much.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
29. The post you responded to has been removed so I don't have context
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:49 PM
Feb 2017

for your post. Curious why you no longer like Hayes?

calimary

(81,209 posts)
33. Hmmm... sorry it got removed.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:36 PM
Feb 2017

Let's just say some of his quite-obvious preferences grew tiresome. Particularly when one does not share those same preferences.

Not trying to stir things up here, 'eh? We all need to stop bickering and unite behind our leadership team!

What I CAN say about the Ellison vs Perez debates here is - the BEST PART OF THEM ALL was seeing Donna Brazile pass the gavel! I am OVER-THE-MOON delighted about that. That alone will help our party! That alone is worth celebrating!

Donna Brazile always seems to make it a point to take a feather duster to a gunfight. Because she forgot her wet noodle collection at home that day. I'm convinced that part of the reason Al Gore didn't do better was because she was his campaign manager. She is NO fighter. She's one of those flaccid milquetoast "oh... okay..." Democrats. DISMAL!

Donna Brazile fires people up the way sitting inside the freezer section of the grocery store would do.

brush

(53,764 posts)
40. Have you forgotten Gore actually "won" like Hillary did. Why blame Brazile for stepping into...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:51 AM
Feb 2017

a difficult spot when needed to replace DWS? She didn't campaign for that job and really didn't want it.

She did it for the party.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
24. Go to the link for 'My Bookmarks'
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:16 PM
Feb 2017

Top right...click on the tab marked 'trash can' and put his name in the auto-trash by keyword space. Threads with his name in the title will no longer appear for you.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
26. Yes, we got it the first 2,000 times you posted about it . ;.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:38 PM
Feb 2017

And if you're so sick of it, what are you doing in this thread?

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
12. Hear, Hear!
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:25 PM
Feb 2017

I'm ready for the Tom & Keith show.

Returning Democrats and allied forces like Bernie Sanders to power is more important.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
16. I said in another thread that perhaps DU needs a "Post-Election 2016" forum.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:36 PM
Feb 2017

So those so inclined to re-fight the primaries can have at it. I volunteer to be the first one banned from such a forum.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
18. Agree..
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017

.. also I really love Sanders and Our Revolution,
and I love the idea of us all working together to bring
back the America that we know can be good, healthy,
and compassionate.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
19. I have never been anything here but a hard core Democrat
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

I have never worshipped any candidate. Frankly I see little difference between Sanders and Clinton and I have said so many times. The pro Hillary people were totally fine with that. By contrast I was immediately blocked by the Sanders people and attacked in every way imaginable.

I am not bickering over Sanders versus Clinton. I do blame a fraction of Sanders supporters for being impractical, illogical, and downright nasty.

I don't see redemption for people like Susan Sarandon. I don't see putting any trust in them or reliance.on them as being functional or wise. We will have to do this without them. Such is life.

And get off my lawn! Grrrrrr.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
20. I'm ready for the Hillary/Bernie primaries to be over
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

it didn't end well for ANY of us....and with the outside interference, I don't think it would have made any difference who was on the ticket.
Russia used Rove's tactics (on steroids) against us.
He got a dumb stooge to run for POTUS--someone who would say anything for the right amount of money or favor and those that the less visceral among the human population could identify with
He got an evil partisan VP--with a wink/wink that he was always waiting to take over in the wings if anything went south---someone the christian right and the partisan republicans could identify with
then they fucked with the voting machines in certain areas.

IF we want to undo this nightmare....everyone is going to have to suck it up and fight for the republic because it is in imminent danger.

I caucused for Hillary against Obama. I was called a racist.
I voted for Obama twice.
I caucused for Bernie against Hillary. I was called a sexist.
I cast my vote for Hillary.

Fighting for this country is worth any insult to my feelings or my pride.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
31. What he did was condescending and really disrespectful.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:54 PM
Feb 2017

Two minutes after Perez is appointed in he started in on him as if he is the keeper of ultimate truth. He gets on my last nerve.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. I agree that was very disrespectful and if he knows so much why isn't he POTUS? Because it
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:17 PM
Feb 2017

was allegedly stolen from him ? How would he have competed with repuke antics if he couldn't over come primaries but he has all the answers for Perez

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
36. Truly, enough of this shit, give it a freakin rest, it's so beneath most of you who are doing it.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:18 PM
Feb 2017

And it's pathetically, transparently childishly divisive.

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
37. It has been my experience all along that most Hillary supporters want the infights to stop, but
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:27 PM
Feb 2017

the Bernie people won't stop trying to delegitimize our first female nominee by saying she rigged the primary, fucking asking her supporters to apologize for "voting for the wrong candidate in the primaries," attacking her supporters by saying Bernie would have won, etc. Hillary supporters are always expected to be the adults in the room. We're supposed to give all of the respect while expecting none in return. All I want is people to stop disrespecting my candidate and the inspiration I draw from her. Hillary means a lot to me as an inspiration and role model; can I fucking have that without being attacked for it all of the time?

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
39. ++10000000000000000000000000
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:35 PM
Feb 2017

THANK YOU. So tired of all the Bernie Bashing threads. He's on our side (with all his faults yes -- but he's still on our side!)

We don't have TIME for this!

Bunch of people re-fighting the freakin primary stuff. Ugh.

demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
41. K&R. It is the same people over, and over, and over...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:58 AM
Feb 2017


I took everyone off my ignore list after the election & avoided the Postmortem forum... it grew rapidly in the last few weeks.

I wish there was a DU drama forum so I could block the people who are trying to divide us.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
46. Agree. "It is the same people over, and over,
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 11:38 AM
Feb 2017

and over..." It's divisive, counter productive, off putting, and pointless..

Bernie Sanders is still a U.S. Senator, so it's entirely normal that we hear from him. There's a lot going on and I wish we'd hear more from other congresspeople on our side. Hillary is pretty much retired for the time being but she can and does speak up whenever she chooses and her voice is always welcome. The competition between the two has been over for quite some time now. It's history and no longer a current, or relevant, event. They've moved way past that now and I wish some of the members here could do us all a favor and do the same. It' OVER, and, if I may be allowed the indulgence of a very obscure reference from a particularly gruesome scene in a tv series, "There's no going back, Bob."

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
47. Hmmm...I wonder...is relentless side-taking like being a sports fan?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 01:22 PM
Feb 2017

Like constantly living in a team vs team mindset gives one an identity, or something?

The big identity I keep close to heart is Liberal/Progressive first, and Democratic.

And I'll always be for Strategy against CONservaCorporatepukkkes.

But that's about it for my boosterism.

Oh, and Star Trek, Captain Picard.
Rah rah! :pompoms:

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