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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:16 PM Feb 2017

Marijuana Industry Projected To Create More Jobs Than Manufacturing By 2020

Marijuana Industry Projected To Create More Jobs Than Manufacturing By 2020
Debra Borchardt,Contributor Feb 22, 2017

Jobs. That is what the marijuana industry hopes will keep the Trump administration from cracking down on cannabis companies.

A new report from New Frontier Data projects that by 2020 the legal cannabis market will create more than a quarter of a million jobs. This is more than the expected jobs from manufacturing, utilities or even government jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The BLS says that by 2024 manufacturing jobs are expected to decline by 814,000, utilities will lose 47,000 jobs and government jobs will decline by 383,000. This dovetails with data that suggests the fastest-growing industries are all healthcare related.

The legal cannabis market was worth an estimated $7.2 billion in 2016 and is projected to grow at a compound annual growth rate of 17%. Medical marijuana sales are projected to grow from $4.7 billion in 2016 to $13.3 billion in 2020. Adult recreational sales are estimated to jump from $2.6 billion in 2016 to $11.2 billion by 2020.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/debraborchardt/2017/02/22/marijuana-industry-projected-to-create-more-jobs-than-manufacturing-by-2020/#2b0efc653fa9
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Marijuana Industry Projected To Create More Jobs Than Manufacturing By 2020 (Original Post) workinclasszero Feb 2017 OP
You REALLY think trump gives a first shit about jobs? angstlessk Feb 2017 #1
You bet. I believe King Trumpf will reopen all the coal mines workinclasszero Feb 2017 #4
Yep, a big coal furnace in every house! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #31
Not only more jobs but increases to rural community incomes across the board randr Feb 2017 #2
If Trump is in office until 2020, we'll be buying the stuff by the pound. Vinca Feb 2017 #3
Yeah, as it's catapulted over the wall! angstlessk Feb 2017 #5
:) Luciferous Feb 2017 #32
Marijuana will save this country and the people in so many ways HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #6
It will if Dump and the republicans don't attack legal MJ workinclasszero Feb 2017 #7
No reasonable person is against legalizing marijuana HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #12
I think he's gonna "nip it in the bud" mitch96 Feb 2017 #8
Big Pharma wants to stop legal MJ too workinclasszero Feb 2017 #9
MJ is an effective pain reliever. It could do a lot to stem the opioid epidemic. And opening up tblue37 Feb 2017 #11
MJ is recreational for most HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #13
Decimalization was a big reason I voted yes to pot fun n serious Feb 2017 #15
Also it helps to kill the cartel business mitch96 Feb 2017 #16
Prohibition helped organized crime become big business in the US. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #22
It's too late for that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #24
That's provided the Trump Administration keeps its fingers out of it... yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #10
The Weed Industry Was A Breeding Ground otohara Feb 2017 #19
That's a pretty broad statement... yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #20
Well maybe if Hillary hadn't picked a super prohibitionist running mate Calculating Feb 2017 #21
From Leafly otohara Feb 2017 #23
We made a tactical error not embracing legalization, because as I noted it is widely popular Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #33
friendly suggestion? let it go, already. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #28
Easy For You otohara Feb 2017 #39
Well. Shes not running again. And neither, for that matter, is bernie. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #40
Speaking of.. fun n serious Feb 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Feb 2017 #17
So in MA we just approved recreational marijuana. However there are no retail sellers seaglass Feb 2017 #18
That was the process in all the recreationally legal states; it takes time to get the system up and Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #25
Yes there is definitely some tinkering as the top leaders in MA were against legalization. seaglass Feb 2017 #30
Yes there is definitely some tinkering mitch96 Feb 2017 #36
Herein WA it is as much an industry as any agriculture. nolabear Feb 2017 #26
Happy workers!! lunatica Feb 2017 #27
This helps criminals scscholar Feb 2017 #29
..i think you forgot the sarcasm tag. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #34
Wut? Calculating Feb 2017 #35
It is illegal in the US scscholar Feb 2017 #37
Hence the point of legalizing it? Calculating Feb 2017 #38
it's illegal cuz its bad and it's bad because it's illegal. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #42
I agree obviously, but it is still illegal scscholar Feb 2017 #43
and the authority of the federal government to dither around in it when it doesn't involve Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #44
Good. You go ahead, then, and send Willie Nelson to prison. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #41
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. You bet. I believe King Trumpf will reopen all the coal mines
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:31 PM
Feb 2017

and bring millions and millions of high wage, full benefits, no skill factory jobs any day now.

No I'm sure he doesn't give a shit or he wouldn't be promising to crack down on legal MJ.

randr

(12,412 posts)
2. Not only more jobs but increases to rural community incomes across the board
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

Here in Western Colorado we are supposed to be suffering the loss of hundreds of mining jobs. Not the case. The bud industry has brought in so many people, family people, who are spending locally. Our local Electrical Coop Supplier is also providing high speed fiber optic hookups to everyone and they have trained laid off miners for the jobs. We are also home to SEI, Solar Energy International, where hundreds of people from around the world have learned the skills needed to create a fossil free future.
The future is Bright, buy sunglasses.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. It will if Dump and the republicans don't attack legal MJ
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:05 PM
Feb 2017

Funny how they pull out the states rights argument for transsexual bathroom laws and then throw it out the window in regards to legal pot, damn hypocrites.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
8. I think he's gonna "nip it in the bud"
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

If MJ is legal then there would be less arrests.. Less people going to private jails, That would hurt the private jail business... They gave him a shit ton of money... How many states that sell medical MJ and legal MJ did not vote for them...... He will just enforce the federal law against MJ and kill the whole industry... He will take care of his cronies first, people second or third or forth...
That's how I "sees" it..
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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. Big Pharma wants to stop legal MJ too
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:37 PM
Feb 2017

Even alcohol manufactures like Sam Adams are spending money to stop it.

These Are The Alcohol Companies That Want To Keep Weed Illegal
http://vinepair.com/articles/alcohol-companies-that-dont-like-weed/

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
11. MJ is an effective pain reliever. It could do a lot to stem the opioid epidemic. And opening up
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

research could devise highly effective (no pun intended) MJ based pain meds that wouldn't cause a high. I need pain relief, but I don't want to get high from pain meds, so such a medicine would be very welcome to people like me.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
13. MJ is recreational for most
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:26 PM
Feb 2017

And that is fine. If it has a medical purpose for some people, that is ok, but that is not the only reason for legalization.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
15. Decimalization was a big reason I voted yes to pot
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:28 PM
Feb 2017

Cops were harassing and jailing kids for a little pot and it was wrong.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
16. Also it helps to kill the cartel business
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:10 PM
Feb 2017

If I remember correctly MJ is the largest cash generator for the drug cartels. If it became legal or stayed legal it would hurt their business....... which is a good thing..
m

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
10. That's provided the Trump Administration keeps its fingers out of it...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:46 PM
Feb 2017

other wise, the Justice Department will just fuck it up good.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
19. The Weed Industry Was A Breeding Ground
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:47 PM
Feb 2017

for Hillary hate - many were Bernie/Busters - they got their Bust now they may just get Busted due to their 3rd party or no vote bullshit.





yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
20. That's a pretty broad statement...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 01:14 PM
Feb 2017

I would not characterize people in that wide of range, seriously. Very broad brush.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
21. Well maybe if Hillary hadn't picked a super prohibitionist running mate
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 01:31 PM
Feb 2017

She would have got more support from them. The guy is barely a step or two above Sessions in terms of cannabis policy.
http://marijuanapolitics.com/tim-kaine-marijuana-pain-hillarys-prohibitionist-vp-pick/
Tim Kaine’s regressive and repressive views and votes on marijuana recently earned him into a “hall of shame” over at StopTheDrugWar.com. Just last month, they consolidated NORML’s congressional scorecard, and displayed the names of 26 current US senators to whom they have given an “F” rating on marijuana prohibition. Unsurprisingly, only four were Democrats; unfortunately, one of those four prohibitionists is Tim Kaine. He recently said:

I wouldn’t vote for a law at the federal or state level that would decriminalize marijuana.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
23. From Leafly
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:12 PM
Feb 2017

Tim Kaine isn't for Legal Cannabis, but He Wouldn't Shut it Down | Leafly

A Clinton–Kaine ticket may not revolutionize America’s cannabis laws during the next four years, but their views and policies align to lean toward allowing the state “democracy labs” to continue their experiments. For those of us lucky enough to live in legalized medical and recreational states, both Kaine and Clinton seem to recognize that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/tim-kaine-isnt-for-legal-cannabis-but-he-wouldnt-shut-it-down

Did Hillary pick Tim Kaine for his views on marijuana?
Nope he was a mayor, governor, senator who knows how to govern and speaks Spanish.

The kids at my dispensary laugh off Jeff Sessions threat - but they laughed off Trumps threats of Muslim ban and deporting families also thinking he wouldn't go through with his extreme agenda.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. We made a tactical error not embracing legalization, because as I noted it is widely popular
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:07 PM
Feb 2017

Unfortunately our last DNC chair was an unapologetic prohibitionist who decided to go to the NY Times in july and insult millennials while going full "reefer madness"

...I dont know who that was supposed to appeal to, but I dont believe it net us a whole ton of votes.


We should be the party of personal freedom. The consenting adult citizens of this country work hard during the week, they not only dont want government making their reproductive decisions for them, they also want to be left alone to smoke weed in their living rooms while watching sex scenes on game of thrones on the weekend, if they so choose.

It should be a no-brainer for our party, except that we have a few authoritarians on our side and some beltway genuises who think we need to appeal to "values voters" or "megachurch moms"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. friendly suggestion? let it go, already.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:36 PM
Feb 2017

If there's one thing about pot legalization, it's supported by a broad range across the political spectrum- I think that's what sessions and chris christie and their ilk don't get. Half the newly formed Congressional Cannabis Caucus are Republicans.

Jesus, Roger Fucking STONE was on twitter telling Trump to back off on legal weed. I found myself agreeing with something Mike god-damn Cernovich said on the matter. What the fuck.

What is notable is that the places Hillary unexpectedly lost - Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania-- were not your manbun sportin' budtender central states.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
39. Easy For You
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:20 PM
Feb 2017

Funny how those who trashed her during the primary are so quick to tell us who were so excited about her to just let it go.

Unless I get full blown dementia or Alzheimers I won't be forgetting how ugly this election was. I don't know what she did to deserve such hate.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. Well. Shes not running again. And neither, for that matter, is bernie.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 10:27 PM
Feb 2017

Fleetwood mac is never gonna be in the top 40 and lime green leisure suits are gone.

Response to fun n serious (Reply #14)

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
18. So in MA we just approved recreational marijuana. However there are no retail sellers
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:21 PM
Feb 2017

and it is illegal to sell marijuana. There will not be approval of retail sellers until mid 2018. It is legal to gift marijuana.

I just heard on the news this morning that a new business is starting up selling lemonade for $55 with a free gift of marijuana. Now THIS is enterprising.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. That was the process in all the recreationally legal states; it takes time to get the system up and
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:31 PM
Feb 2017

running.

A couple pertinent questions are, of course, how accommodating or foot-dragging, respectively the state government is. In Oregon everyone was on board and the state gov't passed legislation allowing limited recreational sales through existing medical dispensaries before the full recreational system came online. In Alaska, by contrast, the state gov't dragged their feet but even they have stores going now.

From what I've read with Mass. the state legislature seems a bit overly inclined to tinker or try and "fix" your law, although ironically if Trump puts a big Trump stamp on a recreational pot "crackdown" that may make it harder for Democrats in legal states to hold up or interfere with legalization.

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
30. Yes there is definitely some tinkering as the top leaders in MA were against legalization.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:46 PM
Feb 2017

Baker is up for re-election in 2018 though so I don't think he can drag this out past mid 2018. Maura Healey our AG has been strong against Trump but was against legalization. Be interesting to see her position if Trump comes down hard.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
36. Yes there is definitely some tinkering
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:55 PM
Feb 2017

Same here in Florida.. Top repub's didn't want it approved so I expect them to drag their feet on this one. Since der dRumphenfurer is against it and the Gov and him are besties I guess it will go nowhere...... Unless they can make a shitpot of money, then it will be ok.......... fuckers.. Lots of back room wrangling on who is gonna get the contracts to grow and distribute. Big Sugar??? Big Juice??
Big Mouse?
They all want a piece of the action..
m

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
26. Herein WA it is as much an industry as any agriculture.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

There are many retail distributors, growers, transporters, researchers, advertisers, breeders, warehouses, packagers, accessory manufacturers, etc. The tax flow is enormous.

They would be destroying jobs right and left.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
35. Wut?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:52 PM
Feb 2017

You mean the law abiding citizens who applied for permits to be growers, sellers and distributors in a legal economy?

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
38. Hence the point of legalizing it?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017

I'm a little confused here. It used to be illegal for blacks to sit at the front of the bus. Was Rosa Parks a dirty criminal?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. it's illegal cuz its bad and it's bad because it's illegal.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 10:41 PM
Feb 2017

Just like sex between two consenting gay adults used to be.

If it's a law, it must be morally right!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
44. and the authority of the federal government to dither around in it when it doesn't involve
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:18 AM
Feb 2017

interstate commerce, via the commerce clause, hinges on one rather dubious piece of supreme court reasoning, nothing more.

We feel citizens united is bad law, too, don't we?

Beyond that, it has NEVER been the job of the federal government to enforce low level drug laws on the ground in the states; that falls to the state and local authorities themselves. And surely one so well versed as yourself in the law realizes that the Feds cannot FORCE a state to criminalize marijuana at the state level.

Conversely, if they fuck too much with legal states, the states have a "nuclear option" which would be distinctly unpalatable to the feds, and that potentiality as much as Obama being POTUS may have been what drove the logic of the cole memo:

http://www.thestranger.com/news/2016/12/21/24755256/one-way-to-protect-washington-states-legal-weed-market-from-trump-burn-it-to-the-ground

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