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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:15 PM Feb 2017

Top Democratic senator...: 'This may very well be the most important thing I do in my public life'

http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-warner-trump-russia-investigation-most-important-thing-2017-2

Top Democratic senator on Russia investigation: 'This may very well be the most important thing I do in my public life'

Eliza Relman
Feb. 24, 2017, 5:04 PM 88,223


After viewing classified materials as part of the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Democratic Sen. Mark Warner told The New Yorker that he came away with a conclusion: The investigation "may very well be the most important thing I do in my public life.”

The Senate committee launched its inquiry after intelligence agencies determined that Russia was involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign in an effort to aid Trump's bid for the presidency.

Fearing the Trump administration would suppress information concerning the investigation, Warner — the ranking member on the committee — and six other of its members sent a public letter to President Barack Obama three weeks after the election requesting he declassify "additional information concerning the Russian Government and the US election."

"My increasing concern is that classification now is being used much more for political security than for national security. We wanted to get that out before a new administration took place," Sen. Ron Wyden, who also sits on the Intelligence Committee and signed on to the request for declassification, told The New Yorker. "I can’t remember seven senators joining a declassification request."

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In an interview this week with Business Insider, Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said that Republicans in Congress have begun to take the accusations more seriously.

"I think it's all converging to a point where people are collectively holding their breath and we will see what is the next shoe to drop," Whitehouse said. "My personal observation is that there is very little goodwill for this man with Republicans in the Senate."
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Top Democratic senator...: 'This may very well be the most important thing I do in my public life' (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2017 OP
Republicans in Congress have begun to take the accusations more seriously. elleng Feb 2017 #1
As long as they put political party, and their draconian agenda ahead of America nothing will happen still_one Feb 2017 #5
Their masters will not allow them to deviate from the plan...... lastlib Feb 2017 #14
Nice reference! LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #25
OT: King Crimson's Live/Toronto album- unsurpassed quality of production and performance. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #27
I have it, yesphan Feb 2017 #28
Saw them at a Rock Fest in '69. Ligyron Feb 2017 #33
Was one of them in West Palm Beach, FL? lark Feb 2017 #36
Yeah, I was there! Ligyron Feb 2017 #41
OMG, I remember it well. lark Feb 2017 #42
Yeah Janice was great. Ligyron Feb 2017 #43
Yes, one of the real highlights of the festival. lark Feb 2017 #45
Amazing story. Ligyron Feb 2017 #46
I hope and pray that's so. lark Feb 2017 #47
If past is prologue, then we know that the only reason they want to be a part of wiggs Feb 2017 #21
Echo that. It's hard to imagine being a GrOPer, constantly erronis Feb 2017 #35
Let's us hope this goes somewhere! angstlessk Feb 2017 #2
KICK.. Mahalo, babylonsister WOW.. Make it so! Cha Feb 2017 #3
He is right and histiry will honor those that stand up to fascism bravenak Feb 2017 #4
+ BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #23
This guy bravenak Feb 2017 #24
What you said---that's about all I know of that history. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #29
Not the House Republicans! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #6
Let's Hope The Shoe That Drops Is A..... global1 Feb 2017 #7
Did Obama declassify zentrum Feb 2017 #8
no. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #12
So we're screwed. zentrum Feb 2017 #20
Obama may have been thinking that many of the investigations' sources could end up dead. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #30
getting the asshole out of office would be the most important thing anyone can do right now NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #9
Man, that's the truth! ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #18
Sen. Wyden also said there is nothing more important to him than getting to the bottom of this. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #10
Thank you for posting. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #37
I'm proud of my ohheckyeah Feb 2017 #11
Me too rusty quoin Feb 2017 #13
We will need you to stand strong, Sen. Warner. blue neen Feb 2017 #15
That last sentence by Whitehouse is an eye-opener.Can hardly wait till Red Don rants at them on Tues Hekate Feb 2017 #16
Good to see Warner doing this. Planning to go represent us at his office with others this week. JudyM Feb 2017 #17
Dare we hope? lillypaddle Feb 2017 #19
Witting or unwitting pawn of Putin radalpha Feb 2017 #22
Witting. Enthusiastically witting. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #31
Your post gives me a lot to think about. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #38
Anybody from or affiliated with Russia who can confirm what we think we know, is dead. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #26
Yeah, and that's pretty good evidence right there. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #32
K & R malaise Feb 2017 #34
kick Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #39
Damn Right! kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #40
K&R! red dog 1 Feb 2017 #44

elleng

(130,865 posts)
1. Republicans in Congress have begun to take the accusations more seriously.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:20 PM
Feb 2017

In an interview this week with Business Insider, Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said that Republicans in Congress have begun to take the accusations more seriously.

"I think it's all converging to a point where people are collectively holding their breath and we will see what is the next shoe to drop," Whitehouse said. "My personal observation is that there is very little goodwill for this man with Republicans in the Senate."

still_one

(92,136 posts)
5. As long as they put political party, and their draconian agenda ahead of America nothing will happen
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:36 PM
Feb 2017

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
14. Their masters will not allow them to deviate from the plan......
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:06 AM
Feb 2017

Any departure from the interests of the oligarchy to serve the peons will have dire consequences for the deviant ones.

"The puppet master does not play,
But gently pulls the strings,
and smiles as the puppets dance
In the court of the Crimson (Orange) King."


(apologies to Greg Lake, et al.)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
27. OT: King Crimson's Live/Toronto album- unsurpassed quality of production and performance.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 02:43 PM
Feb 2017

Not affiliated with KC in any way. Just a long time listener.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
41. Yeah, I was there!
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:14 PM
Feb 2017

Only 15 and had a blast.

The Rolling Stones closed down the show and it was COLD as hell that night for south FL.

lark

(23,091 posts)
42. OMG, I remember it well.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:18 PM
Feb 2017

Well, to be truthful, I remember it through a distinct drug filled haze. Joplin was my pick for best in show, Mick was a prick. Stones were really late and we were all freezing by the time they deigned to come onstage. It was an experience I will always remember,

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
43. Yeah Janice was great.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:24 PM
Feb 2017

Did you see when she jammed with Johnny and Edgar Winter?

That was memorable...

lark

(23,091 posts)
45. Yes, one of the real highlights of the festival.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 07:39 AM
Feb 2017

So many good memories.

Heres a good story from then, although it started out bad. We had left the tent open while we were trekking to the toilets and it rained hard and our food was destroyed. We also had very little $ having spent all our spare money on tickets and food. I went out to see if I could find free food, but couldn't so made a sign & started panhandling. This guy came up, gave me a dollar and I thanked him on behalf of the 4 of us because we could get a cup of coffee for .25 ea. He walked on, but I kept seeing him around there talking to random people. A while later he comes back to me and gives me $40 that he had scrounged for us so we could eat. He also got the location of the free food line too. Still touches me with his kindness to this day.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
46. Amazing story.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:28 AM
Feb 2017

Those were the days when peace, love and sharing was a widespread ethic among the young and hip. Much different today, especially with the cons. Got mine - screw you snowflake.

That festival changed my whole outlook on humanity and I embraced the peace movement religiously and haven't changed much since.

Back then you could hitchhike across the country safely and if the right people picked you up, say, in a van, they'd get you high and vice verso.

You just felt the coming world was going to be amazing. Maybe it still can be.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
21. If past is prologue, then we know that the only reason they want to be a part of
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:20 PM
Feb 2017

investigations is to minimize the damage and shape the conclusion. If the GOP ever admits to anything problematic, then you can be sure the truth is much worse.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
35. Echo that. It's hard to imagine being a GrOPer, constantly
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:36 PM
Feb 2017

looking in your rear view mirrors, your side windows, and what's coming straight at you.

Looking to see what crap you have unleashed against the democracy that strangely got you into your little position of power.

Having fawning lobbyists and camp-followers saying "Mitch, you're the best turtle around", or "Whoa Ryan baby - look at them biceps" does not really make you a good representative of the needs of the US. Addicted to power, much?

I certainly hope that reality injects itself into your own little personal world-view. Slowly and painfully.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. +
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 01:41 PM
Feb 2017

Nice reference, important reminder.

Now I gotta read up on Chamberlain some more. Important historical info, I think.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
24. This guy
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 01:51 PM
Feb 2017
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

Not a bad guy overall, but he did not see Hitler coming even though it seems like others saw what was happening, imo. His appeasement of Hitler is what I want us to avoid. We know better, he didn't.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. Obama may have been thinking that many of the investigations' sources could end up dead.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:14 PM
Feb 2017

And apparently they have, because Trump has access to the classified material on them.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
9. getting the asshole out of office would be the most important thing anyone can do right now
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:54 PM
Feb 2017

for the good of the country and the world.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
10. Sen. Wyden also said there is nothing more important to him than getting to the bottom of this.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:55 PM
Feb 2017

“There is nothing more important on my plate than getting to the bottom of this because it goes right to the heart of the legitimacy of the American government. I am prepared to use every single tool I have as a United States senator to get to the bottom of this. This will NOT be swept under the rug. (He said this several times emphatically, to standing ovations.)

I am insisting on subpoena power, open hearings, and am continuing to push to declassify information. You have a right to know this information now. They say it compromises sources and methods to have open hearings. It is baloney that you can’t have open hearings without compromising sources and methods. Don’t ever let a politician tell you that you have a choice between security or liberty. You’re entitled to both. “

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028675751
Took notes for you guys on what Sen. Wyden (Senate Intel) said about Russia/Trump in town hall today

And this:
Senator Wyden is Hell-bent on Getting Out the Truth About Trump and Russia (Mother Jones)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016177278

And this:
Wyden, cheered by Oregonians to probe a Trump-Russia connection, must keep up the fight: Editorial
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/02/wyden_cheered_by_oregonians_to.html

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
16. That last sentence by Whitehouse is an eye-opener.Can hardly wait till Red Don rants at them on Tues
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:23 AM
Feb 2017

Can you just imagine him not ranting?

radalpha

(18 posts)
22. Witting or unwitting pawn of Putin
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:40 PM
Feb 2017

Whether Trump knows or not, Bannon probably knows that every move the administration makes is quietly supporting Putin and Russia's position in the world. Ironically, it was the United States clever strategy that took down the Soviet Union that is now being directed back at us, to take us down. We didn't take down the USSR in a war, we turned their friends against them, destabilized their political structure by causing internal division, and most importantly, started an arms war that nearly bankrupted the country so they could no longer afford their ambitions. Poof, they were gone.

Similarly, Trump is cooperating with Russia by creating division within the European Union, picking fights with friends (e.g. Mexico, Australia, Germany, etc.), disrupting NATO, interfering in our elections, fomenting internal dissension, playing loose and fast with the facts, attempting to discredit the media and will finally damage our financial system through reckless military spending, and deficit infrastructure plans.

If we don't protect our democracy, we won't have a democracy in the future.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. Witting. Enthusiastically witting.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:16 PM
Feb 2017

Though rather witless when it comes to managing a cover-up, it seems.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
44. K&R!
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:40 PM
Feb 2017

Fearing the Trump administration would suppress information concerning the investigation, Warner - the ranking member on the committee - and six other of it's members sent a public letter to President Barack Obama three weeks after the election requesting he declassify "additional information concerning the Russian Government and the US election"???

Sen. Ron Wyden, who also sits on the Intelligence Committee & signed on to the request for declassification, told the New Yorker: "I can't remember seven senators joining a declassification request."???

WTF?

Why the hell didn't President Obama declassify the "additional information concerning the Russian Government and the US election"?

What in God's name was Obama afraid of?

Was he afraid that if he did declassify the requested information that something "bad" would happen?

What the hell could be worse than what we have now?

THANKS, Obama....Thank you very much!

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