Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino resident may get deported

[kpete]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/us/immigration-trump-illinois-juan-pacheco.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&mtrref=t.co&gwh=268F0246B42775C5710649A4D0A69CE8&gwt=pay

[Thrill]

1. You voted for hate

And that's what you're getting

[raccoon]

56. Yep, "you asked for it, you got it." nt

[DFW]

2. How touching

"She said she saw a distinction between 'people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.'"

Did she really? How noble. The trouble is, she voted for a regime that saw NO distinction, and wasn't about to look for one.

Does misfortune have to befall EVERY Trump voter before they figure out what a disservice they did to our country?
(On second thought, please don't answer that)

[CanonRay]

31. Yes, misfortune has to come and personally slap each and every one upside the head

or they won't understand. I'm starting to believe that.

[Wounded Bear]

37. That's what a lack of empathy does for someone....

No feeling or concern for anything outside of one's own skin.

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. And tRump is the poster boy for that. No feeling or concern. Why should he waste his very smart

brain on such trivialities, I mean really.

[Ms. Toad]

35. Reminds me of a poem I used to read at poetry competitions in high school

Here's a snippet of it (that is still stuck in my mind - back from the Civil Rights/Vietnam era)

Keep your prejudices, don't get shook
If you find something different when you take a look
Just close your mind and play it cool
It's the exceptions that prove the rule.

[hatrack]

3. Fuck you, Debra Johnson; Fuck you, West Frankfort

Wake up, grow up, wise up.

[tanyev]

4. Yes, that one Latino you personally know is OK.

All the other ones out there are moochers and losers.

[treestar]

9. This is true

that is how right wingers act. They are against illegal immigrants but the one they know and like, they will say "why can't this hard working good person be legal?" And never see the disconnect.

They cannot imagine people they don't know personally.

[NotThisTime]

21. Exactly....

[hatrack]

23. From the Posen Speech, 4 October 1943 by Heinrich Himmler to the SS

"I mean the clearing out of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. It's one of those things it is easy to talk about - "The Jewish race is being exterminated", says one party member, "that's quite clear, it's in our program - elimination of the Jews, and we're doing it, exterminating them." And then they come, 80 million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler

[Vinnie From Indy]

29. Yes!

This was also discussed by Heydrich at the Wannsee Conference. He said that every German had their favorite Jew.

[KingCharlemagne]

63. Thank God for Marshall Tito's partisans - nt

[RKP5637]

5. FFS, they voted for this and now they're surprised. And when what healthcare they likely have

goes away, I guess they'll be upset too. FFS, pay attention to what is going on. It's far more than about coal. And also, guess what, coal jobs aren't coming back. Trump lied to you to get your vote. Look at the world. Is the world suddenly switching to coal as a main energy source? Trump doesn't give a damn about you. You were used by him as losers likely in his eyes, but he got your vote. Now, we're all stuck with it.

[Vinca]

6. Wait until they figure out coal jobs aren't coming back.

The jobs are gone because of mountaintop removal (another issue of concern) and natural gas. All coal country people are getting at this point is the chance to have polluted rivers and streams. That's what Dear Leader has done for them so far.

[SharonClark]

27. The repugs will continue to blame it on the hamstrung EPA

and the suckers will believe it.

[NewJeffCT]

32. There will be a temporary surge in coal mining profits

because the environmental regulations will be scaled back and/or not enforced. No more proper disposal of wastes - just throw it into the rivers, streams and ponds. However, it will just go into the pockets of the owners. Then, the locals will not only have to deal with black lung disease, but poisoned water and a dying environment around them.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. I Don't Know NewJeff

The consumption is down so dramatically. There are several coal plants in IL mothballed because the NG plants are so much cheaper to run. And, with the nukes providing a baseload (plus of course some coal), the peaker plants are ALL NG. Turning those on in short order is so much easier and more efficient.

Even if they scale back regs on the generators, the sunk cost of the scrubbing equipment is still there. The marginal operating costs of the environmental hardware isn't going to make much of a dent in the cost of generation. Still think the consumers will go slow.

[tallahasseedem]

49. I just laughed at this...

I know I shouldn't have...but damn, these people are dumb.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. Revive the coal industry?

Why not the buggy whip industry while you're at it? Shit people come into the 21st century. You evolve or die.

[Bengus81]

15. Yep...the sales of 8 track tapes has been "declining for decades" too...........

About FIVE decades now and I don't see any reason to resurrect them.

[Coventina]

18. Soon, coopers will have all the business they can handle....

making barrels for people to wear....

[Ray Bruns]

24. I have always said, there are two types of people - mammals and dinosaurs.

You can be a mammal, adapt to your economic environment, and thrive.
Or , you can be a dinosaur and go extinct.

[matt819]

8. One more thing for these buffoons to wait for

Wait for that restaurant to close and for them and their families to lose jobs. Wait for other businesses to suffer slow downs as a result. All because one guy - Carlos - was picked up in the proverbial middle of the night and taken away because of the man they voted for. The man who will not return those coal jobs. The man who will take away their health care. And their addiction services. The man who will defund Planned Parenthood so that their wives and daughters will have no maternity care. The man who will force those who can move away to move away, wreaking further despair on a community already on the way down.

[SammyWinstonJack]

59. And their SSDI/SS and Medicare/Medicaid.

[ladjf]

10. Reality is setting in for some Trump supporters. nt

[bdamomma]

11. are there any agencies helping deportees?

from being deported, seems like ICE is too power hungry and taking it upon themselves to deport people without no vetting.

[Ligyron]

48. They sure jumped on it didn't they?

Seems like many just couldn't wait to get going.

Maybe those coal miners could come to Florida and pick strawberries while they're a-waitin for them coal mines to start a hirin' again.

[yardwork]

57. All the agencies are under Trunp's control.

[HockeyMom]

12. Even American Citizens with US Passports

are going to be subject to profiling. Should we change our names to something Anglo/Saxon sounding? Ask Mohammad Ali Jr. about it.

[Coventina]

13. Fuck you Debra. You did this. You WANTED this.

Don't try to say NOW that you didn't mean it.

You fucking, racist, scum.

[Mr Dixon]

33. Agreed

They all think just like her Fuckem

[stonecutter357]

14. K&R!

[Bengus81]

16. Wait till Trump pulls the PLUG on their healthcare. Carlos will be forgotten in a nano second nt

[mountain grammy]

17. They don't care.. no empathy!

[Turbineguy]

19. With trump

you have to take the bad with the worse.

[rpannier]

20. Fuck You Debra and 70% of your county

[dalton99a]

22. Of course, they never broke any laws. Ever.

[yellowcanine]

25. Can't decide if this should be in the "Some of my best friends are ........." folder or the "Our

...........s are different" folder. Either way, it is quite easy to demonize the "other" until it happens to be your next door neighbor.

[BeyondGeography]

26. Dupes have been known to get duped

So many fish in the barrel for the Con Man.

[Salviati]

42. If idiots want us to stop us calling them dumb...

Then they should stop doing dumb things, and then being surprised when the inevitable happens...

[BeyondGeography]

47. Love that

Saddles is such a magnificent send-up of our great land; great because a comedic genius like Mel Brooks could teach us about ourselves. So many William J. Le Petomanes, so much still left to steal.

[LonePirate]

28. Those ignorant, racist a-holes can go f themselves. Hopefully Carlos won't be deported.

[world wide wally]

30. Yeah, but at least you'll lose your health care so you can't afford treatment for Black

Lung Disease and you can get your kids working in the mine sooner when they close your public school. All this, plus you can throw all you garbage directly into the rivers!
MAGA

[Cosmocat]

34. Fucking idiots

all of them ...

[keithbvadu2]

36. Don't they believe in that "Rule of Law" thing?

They should stick to their guns and deport 'their' illegal alien.

Stick to their principles.

Obviously taking a job away from an American (who probably lost his coal mining job).

.

Do I need to add the sarcasm thingie here?

[Botany]

38. ATTN Coal People

Would you buy gas for your car @ $1.50 per gallon and that gas was cleaner
and it was much better for the engine in your car or buy gas @ $3.00 per gallon
and it made your car have to have expensive repairs all the time too? The same
thing goes for electric power plants because they have or will all switch to natural
gas from coal as their fuel source.

[JI7]

39. "one of the good ones" "not like those others"

[annabanana]

40. again!

'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

https://twitter.com/Cavalorn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Initech]

41. I think that we need to start asking this question:

If you continue to get screwed day in and day out by conservative policies, why the fuck do you still vote for conservatives? You have the power to tell them no. You have the power to vote them out of office. If you keep voting for the same shit, you're eventually going to clog the toilet.

[drm604]

52. They're voting out of fear.

It's simple, they're voting out of fear of brown people and gays.

Except of course their brown neighbor or gay child. They're different and they'll be left alone!

[neeksgeek]

43. Proof of the US vs THEM simple-mindedness

It never seems to occur to the average right wing voter that these policies will affect them too.

[Liberalagogo]

44. They ordered the shit sandwich

And now they complain about the taste?

[progressoid]

54. +1

[Baitball Blogger]

46. "He's one of us."

[gopiscrap]

50. Stupid fuckers did you even listen to what that bloviating asshole

had to say on the campaign trail? Elections have consequences. Maybe next time you'll actually think and research a candidate instead of buying his/her pithy slogans and being led like lemmings to slaughter!

[unblock]

51. that's real bigotry for ya. essentially saying, "they're all horrible people except the ones i know"

the vast majority of immigrants come here for the work. duh.

the vast majority of immigrants without documentation do their best to *avoid* the system at all costs.

[Adrahil]

53. Yeah Deb, stop believing lies....

The VAST MAJORITY of people who go through the considerable to get here want to work, and build a future for themselves and their families. The idea that they come here to mooch off the system is a bullshit myth.

[Iggo]

55. Oh, I get it. He's one of the good ones!

Yep.

Been there.

It's still racist.

[Glitterati]

60. Yeah, just like the farmers

"Deport the Mexicans, just not MY Mexicans"

[Iggo]

61. Even here in enlightened SoCal...

...I've often been surrounded by people who think a good Mexican is an exceptional Mexican.

See, I'm one of the good ones.

(Actually, most of the time they don't even realize I am one. That's when it can really get interesting...and ugly.)

[KingCharlemagne]

62. Their mewling cries sound suspiciously self-serving and predictably

hypocritical.

White privilege is when something isn't a problem until it affects you personally.