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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just do not get it- why would any minority person back Trump or be a Republican at this time?
It boggles my mind why anyone who is not a racist white person would want to back Donald Trump or the Republican party at this time in history. Why do they not understand that if these people are successful in building their white supremacist regime that they themselves will later be discarded and living among the lower echelon in society? Why would one back people that despise them? Do they not know that racist despise them? I just do not get it. Why are they doing this? Can someone please explain it to me? People like Rubio and Ben Carson just freak me out. My brain is screaming ' Do you not know the people you run with think you are beneath them?'
nycbos
(6,034 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)dalton99a
(81,451 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Ajji11
(6 posts)and they are just like any other Trump supporter. They don't give a shit about other people and their issues until it happens to THEM.
Trump is currently going after Muslims, so they feel they are safe despite my warnings. They accuse me of being paranoid and refuse to see that Trump's vision of America does not include minorities.
When they start being discriminated against, I can already see these fools wondering, "Why are they targeting us? We didn't do anything wrong!"
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)Fairly certain Caitlyn Jenner voted for him as well. Some article I read following the election profiled a Transgender woman whom said she voted for Trump- even though I couldn't follow her line of reasoning at all.
It seems like they liked *something* or other that he said that they felt made sense (or they might have just really hated Hillary) while completely disregarding all of the really bad stuff that he did or said or not taking it seriously.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)In fact, every time I see a picture of Donald Trump, I wonder how anyone could listen to him and think he's good for anything. When I meet someone like him, all of my internal alarms are triggered. He's not trustworthy. In addition to all of his other short-comings, he's incoherent. When I read a transcript of one of his speeches, I don't know what he's talking about or what points he is making. He's worse than Sarah Palin but just as stupid.
On the other hand, here's a clip from "The West Wing" where a gay Republican congressman explains his political ideology:
Briefly, he sets aside his sexual orientation and believes in local government, individual rights, free markets and a strong national defense- the typical Republican boilerplate. The problem, of course, is that far too many Republicans want to deny non-straight people any rights.
oasis
(49,376 posts)nikibatts
(2,198 posts)0rganism
(23,944 posts)anyone and everyone in this country is a minority one way or another
college educated? high-school dropout? minorities
black? hispanic? asian? native american? immigrant? minorities
Jewish? Catholic? Southern Baptist? Muslim? Mormon? minorities
LGBTQ? minorities
etcetera
and every one of these minorities can be singled out by a would-be autocrat doing a con-job on the suckers by telling people that some particular minority is making it difficult for them and their offspring to succeed
once we're all busy persecuting other minorities or being persecuted because of one or more of our minority memberships, the fascist takes over and robs the nation blind.
War Dep't anti-fascist "educational" film from 1947 on the topic:
think of it as "identity politics" in reverse
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)And a very small number, I would think, do it just to be contrarian to conventional wisdom.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)white people who do vote for a white supremacist?
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)I just assume that when a white person is backing Trump and the Republican party in this election that it's based on hatred towards some group or all of them outside their own. A white supremacist will not treated as less than others in a white supremacist regime. Others however have much more to lose by supporting a regime that thinks of them as inferiors.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)is not why they win.
the few LGBT who vote for trump is not also why he won
so it seems to be a rather silly overall focus
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)do you think I owe you an apology? I truly do not understand why you are trying so hard to insult me for starting a thread you don't happen to care for. If I don't care for a topic I just skip the thread- but that's me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)jack69
(163 posts)From what I understand, the repubs claimed the christian faith and their underlings bought it. No matter how morally repugnant they become. Christianity allows you to ask to be forgiven and presto, you're back at square one. In actuality, nothing has changed, but you feel good about yourself and can continue spouting your holiness, as if what you did previously, did not happen.
They don't understand the one simple tenet of Christianity, take care of one another whether you know them or not.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)supported the Nazi Party and Hitler in Weimar.
Upper-income minorities will benefit handsomely from the Trump tax cuts coming. So economic self-interest might explain some of it, as does the fact that Trump singles out one or two minorities at a time as scapegoats.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Some are naturally strong enough conservative that they are prepared by their intrinsic natures to not only swallow Republican lies, but to embrace the ones that work for them, excuse away the ones that don't, and puke at the thought of voting for liberal candidates.
What's remarkable is that the Republicans, long the party of white men, have nevertheless pandered to their bigoted base for so long, choosing corruption by seeking big money and abandonment of all principles they might have had to win by any means possible, instead of welcoming into the party the vast numbers of minority conservatives.
It will happen eventually, or maybe Hispanics especially will just move in uninvited, with other minority conservatives following. They can make it happen. They have the numbers the Sanders faction wishes it did on the left.
Itm, people like the Kochs are actively trying to break apart the "identity" factions in the Democratic Party, such as mostly monolithic black coalition, which if at all successful would be bad for us now but would only hurry the end of the virulently conservative White Man's Party.
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)I have learned some things that helped me to understand more, so thank you. There are many things I'm trying to understand & this has been one of them.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)They come in all colors.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)frankieallen
(583 posts)border security, and other typical right wing issues. They don't necessarily agree or condone trumps past behavior, with "grabbing her pussy" or making fun of a disabled reporter, but their core beliefs are closer to republicans than democrats.
When it comes to voting for a president, they are voting for the republican, not for Trump. Also, don't forget the superior court appointees.
I don't belief you have to be a racist to vote for a republican, you just have to be a conservative leaning person.
Softail1
(56 posts)I think it might even be a little racist,(unintentionally by the OP), to assume that ALL minority people have to think the exact same, or vote the exact same. It's a big country, and some minority folks are extremely wealthy, and align themselves more with the big business, wall street crowd, than liberal groups...just the way it is.
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)The Aide in the class was African American. I am a light skinned black woman who can pass so she was not very respectful to me even though I have a teaching credential. And I got on her case for screaming at the kids instead of talking in a calm voice. Anyway she told me she loved chump and was voting for him because he was a strong man and she was tired of meek Obama. I must have had a funny look on my face when she said it. But I said, "how can you vote for a guy who is supported by the kkk"? She said, "he is not a bigot and pointed out that omorosa is one of his friends". My mouth dropped open on that line. An example of a stupid ignorant woman who is black who voted for chump. I never have since met ANYONE in the schools I worked with who voted for chump.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)and anyone that has ever done their own taxes knows that needs to be done. Of course it will be done the wrong way under Trump, but knowing something must be done and what must be done are two different things. I know when my boss spent over 500 hours of labor on last years taxes and it isn't quite done yet that things are just horrible.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)That is the fantasy they've sold million of suckers of all stripes.
Conversely, the Democrats promise fairness and opportunity...
But not so much a result... or big dream
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)at minority people doing to. But, as some have already said in their replies, there's self-hate, ignorance, opportunism, etc. in just about every group of people.
The one thing I think is most appealing to some people, regardless of race or group ID, is the fact that he's rich, a loud-mouth, and a bully. Some people have learned to find that macho. And they think the president ought to be macho. It's so depressing, but true.