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(85,986 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:05 PM Feb 2017

Trump Vows to "Start Winning Wars Again," Says He Got This From "Watching Military in High School"

On the heels of President Donald Trump’s declaration that the United States must “start winning wars again,” CNN’s Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr revealed military leaders have a different opinion.

“There are a lot of questions about what the president means,” Starr told Wolf Blitzer. “He said he was taking this from watching the military during his days back in high school and college in his words when perhaps it was a much more clear time for military victories.”


Trump was in high school in the early 1960’s, following World War II and the Korean War. After Trump turned 18, he was eligible to fight in the Vietnam War but received four draft deferments for bone spurs and one deferment for an unknown reason.

Starr said that those wars had “major tank battles” and “major air battles” that delivered “overwhelming firepower.”

“That is not the way the world exists today,” Starr explained about the modern military. “The fight against ISIS, the fight against Al Qaeda is a fight against a spreading ideology that, indeed, has spread across many countries. The president has this new plan sitting on his desk today about options for defeating ISIS, and it includes diplomacy at the very time he is cutting the State Department. It includes financial options. It does include some military options, but you’re not going to bomb ISIS out of existence. I don’t know a single U.S. military commander that thinks that’s feasible.”


read: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/the-internet-destroys-trumps-war-speech-hell-start-a-war-just-to-prove-he-can-make-america-win-again/

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Trump Vows to "Start Winning Wars Again," Says He Got This From "Watching Military in High School" (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2017 OP
And now he will have an additional 54 billion to do it lillypaddle Feb 2017 #1
man that really chaps my ass Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #25
Send your kids into these bigly tank battles, Trump leftstreet Feb 2017 #2
I can't decipher what he means Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2017 #3
I think what he means is he wants to see nice big wars with lines of tanks and Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #20
TRUMPBO. That is a movie that would leave a theater full of puke. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #35
orange dumb-dumb is thinkin' about it like from when he was a child Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #24
"watching the military during his days back in high school and college" SwissTony Feb 2017 #4
Rat Patrol Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #13
I was thinking F Troop or Hogan's Heroes gratuitous Feb 2017 #16
I think he means this... pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #19
for realsies Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #27
Very up to date techniques... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #39
Maybe he was referring to his own, personal war on STDs. Vinca Feb 2017 #5
it's a neverending battle Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #29
"Pew, pew, pew," he added, as he crashed a toy tank into the door frame. FSogol Feb 2017 #6
I have no words. Solly Mack Feb 2017 #7
Anyone who likes wars has either never been in one or MineralMan Feb 2017 #8
This stupid, "saw it on tv" nonsense appeals to his fucking njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #9
GW Bush is more literate than twitler Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #30
Oh god! Somebody make it stop! smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #10
well there it is, we'll be at war with *someone* by October 0rganism Feb 2017 #11
as ridiculous as that may sound... Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #31
I hope all big blue cities across the country are being prudent with Blue_true Feb 2017 #38
What wars has America lost lately. Johonny Feb 2017 #12
» bigtree Feb 2017 #14
So President Trump is going to go casting about for a war he can start gratuitous Feb 2017 #15
How do i explain this to my 14-year old? Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #17
Oh you tiny little man, such an ignorant nobody - how you became POTUS must be a major curse. Rex Feb 2017 #18
So the people on the battlefield just don't want to fight harder? Is that it? NotThisTime Feb 2017 #21
Will he send his kids to win these wars? Thrill Feb 2017 #22
His Views Come From Sitting On the Sidelines erpowers Feb 2017 #23
I'm not religious but God help us CanonRay Feb 2017 #26
I don't want to live on this planet anymore Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #34
I think he watched GP6971 Feb 2017 #28
Oh for God sakes!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #32
This is the last guy on earth who should get the power to declare war. Initech Feb 2017 #33
i don't know how any soldier could take orders from this military hating buffoon Takket Feb 2017 #36
out. of. his. fucking. mind. spanone Feb 2017 #37
he can't even win a tweet war Cha Feb 2017 #40

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
1. And now he will have an additional 54 billion to do it
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:07 PM
Feb 2017

Think that will help? He is obviously itching for a war.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
3. I can't decipher what he means
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:17 PM
Feb 2017

Does he mean that we didn't want to win wars before? When did we *ever* get into wars to lose? The REAL problem IMHO is that- with an exception or two- we keep getting ourselves wars that we shouldn't have been involved in in the first place and/or wars that were pretty muddy and unwinnable to begin with.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
20. I think what he means is he wants to see nice big wars with lines of tanks and
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:03 PM
Feb 2017

skies filled with bombers again - like black and white footage from WWII movies.


Is it too late to find some North Vietnamese soldier in the woods somewhere who doesn't know the war is over and send Trump to meet him in a period-appropriate uniform?

It would have to be a REALLY BIG uniform, but . . . it's worth a shot, right?

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
24. orange dumb-dumb is thinkin' about it like from when he was a child
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:35 PM
Feb 2017

imagining WW2 war movies that glorified how awesome America is - he's really not that fucking smart, after all.

What did he mean... no need to ponder, as we're dealing with a pretty low IQ here.

Perhaps his peabrained thought trail was this:

"We need to start winning wars! Like America, was great! We totally got rid of Hitler! Like that, we need to have a tremendous, great war!"

(Gag, he is just so fucking stupid.)

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
4. "watching the military during his days back in high school and college"
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:18 PM
Feb 2017

Given his television watching habits, he probably meant "Combat" starring Vic Morrow. Great series.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
8. Anyone who likes wars has either never been in one or
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:28 PM
Feb 2017

is nuts, frankly. Wars suck. They always have and always will. Only people who have nothing to risk want wars.

Trump sucks!

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
9. This stupid, "saw it on tv" nonsense appeals to his fucking
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:32 PM
Feb 2017

Ignorant followers, neither tRump or them have ever read a book in their lives.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Oh god! Somebody make it stop!
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:38 PM
Feb 2017

This moron is going to get us all killed. He thinks it's all a big effing football game! He has got to go!

0rganism

(23,937 posts)
11. well there it is, we'll be at war with *someone* by October
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:57 PM
Feb 2017

it will start with a major terrorist attack on some big blue west coast city, of course, probably within the next 3 months so Trump can credibly blame Obama for intelligence failures
then we will avenge the thousands of dead through a blitzkrieg-style invasion of an acceptable target country (significantly weaker, but not an obvious pushover; Pakistan or North Korea would work) -- regional escalation and destabilization will be unspoken goals to promote further military actions "to keep the American people SAFE"
and then, once our erratic ruthlessness and brutality have been thoroughly re-established, it's time to have another little chat with Mexico about paying for the wall

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I hope all big blue cities across the country are being prudent with
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 10:07 PM
Feb 2017

terror threats and prevent attacks because the Feds are confused right now. I don't to see any Americans hurt or killed, but if there is going to be an attacks, let it happen in a red region that voted heavily for Trump.

Johonny

(20,828 posts)
12. What wars has America lost lately.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:07 PM
Feb 2017

America has trouble winning the peace because dumb * like Trump put all our resources into military build ups instead of domestic programs and diplomacy. Militarily we seem to be able to kill people in droves right up there with anyone in history.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. So President Trump is going to go casting about for a war he can start
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:05 PM
Feb 2017

While at the same time, he's bad-mouthing the military. I remember when even the slightest hint of a politician criticizing the men and women in uniform would get him pilloried in the public square. Yet here's Trump, who has previously denounced VA patients as malingerers, saying the military doesn't fight to win.

His supporters clearly don't see anything wrong with that, and Republican office holders have been entirely co-opted because they don't dare breathe a word against Trump.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. How do i explain this to my 14-year old?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:06 PM
Feb 2017

Son, a felon that stole the election is now beating the war drums, and you'll be first in line to die for him.

This is a nightmare. Someone stop this man. As much as I fear a Pence presidency, I don't think he'd race to war for the thrill of it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Oh you tiny little man, such an ignorant nobody - how you became POTUS must be a major curse.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:08 PM
Feb 2017

Wars are not fought to be won anymore, what the hell decade does he live in? Wars are fought to make money for their elite class to live large and buy whatever the fuck their whims tell them to.

So behind the times.

NotThisTime

(3,657 posts)
21. So the people on the battlefield just don't want to fight harder? Is that it?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:19 PM
Feb 2017

There's something wrong with him

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
23. His Views Come From Sitting On the Sidelines
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 09:24 PM
Feb 2017

I think Trump's views come less from watching the military while he was in high school and college and more from being a guy who avoided going to war. He seems like a guy who thinks war is fun and easy because he sat on the sidelines while other men and women went to war and suffered the tragedies of war. Trump would likely have a different view of the military and war if he had actually spent time in the military.

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