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CousinIT

(9,225 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:40 PM Feb 2017

What We Lose When We Give Awards to Men Like Casey Affleck

By endlessly forgiving abusive men, we tell women that the abuse they suffer is less important than some guy's right to get his point of view across.

White men in entertainment can get away with anything. That one, soul-deadening lesson has been drilled into women's heads recently. We saw reality TV star Donald Trump caught, on tape, sexually harassing a female colleague and giggling about "grabbing [women] by the pussy"—and we saw America elect him president a few weeks later. We found out that Bernardo Bertolucci and Marlon Brando had assaulted actress Maria Schneider on film to create a rape scene in Last Tango in Paris—and we also found out that, prior to her death, Schneider had been talking about this for years. We saw the image rehabilitation of Mel Gibson, who was similarly caught on tape telling his ex-girlfriend that "you look like a fucking pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n—— it will be your fault," shortly before threatening to kill her and rape her himself. At the Academy Awards, the 61-year-old Gibson sat in the front row, racking up awards for Hacksaw Ridge and merrily chortling along at jokes about O.J. Simpson. And Casey Affleck took home the prize for Best Actor.

Affleck, for those who are unaware, stands accused of sexually terrorizing female colleagues on the set of his 2010 mockumentary I'm Still Here; this allegedly included everything from referring to women as "cows" to insisting that one employee, Amanda White, share his hotel room, then deluging her with abusive text messages when she refused. Another woman, Magdalene Gorka, says she woke up in a private hotel room to find Affleck "curled up next to her in the bed wearing only his underwear and a T-shirt," according to her complaint. When Gorka managed to get Affleck out of her room, he allegedly rallied crew members to harass and bully her until she quit the project.

Affleck's Best Actor win isn't the most upsetting item on this list; for one thing, an Oscar doesn't come with nuclear launch codes. But it is grim confirmation of an all-too-common pattern. An Oscar provides an invaluable career boost; Affleck will probably get more roles, better roles, and more name recognition as the result of the award. As he becomes increasingly successful, he will become increasingly untouchable; meaning, if the allegations are true, that the women he's victimized will have less and less chance to be heard. That's not just damaging to the individuals involved here, but to all women who find themselves victimized by powerful men.

Those predictions may seem bleak, but they're drawn from a long history of institutional approval of the artistic production of troubled men. Just look at Roman Polanski. No one doubts that Polanski raped a 13-year-old girl—he admitted to it not only in his guilty plea, but also in an infamous interview in which he called her his "victim"—but no one in the Academy seemed to believe it should pose much of an obstacle to his filmmaking career. When he won the Oscar for Best Director for his 2003 film The Pianist, the announcement of the award was met with a standing ovation, including from (say it ain't so) Meryl Streep. A beaming Harrison Ford accepted the award for Polanski, who could not attend the ceremony, due to, you know, being a convicted child rapist.


http://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a43408/casey-affleck-oscar-win/
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What We Lose When We Give Awards to Men Like Casey Affleck (Original Post) CousinIT Feb 2017 OP
And he will continue to terrorize women and WhiteTara Feb 2017 #1
hypocrisy in action: truth heaven05 Feb 2017 #2
"That one soul-deadening lesson" MontanaMama Feb 2017 #3
Not just white men. Think Chris Brown. WillowTree Feb 2017 #4
If Hollywood liberals don't Ilsa Feb 2017 #5
Yep Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #6
And yet many of those liberalhistorian Feb 2017 #7
Not being a fan of "angsty" and... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #8
I thought they were allegations, not proved? Gamecock Lefty Feb 2017 #9
Affleck settled both lawsuits, which were asking $2.5 million each More_Cowbell Feb 2017 #12
Hey - at least Kimmel got his trump shots in. Guess he figured no one else was attack worthy. jmg257 Feb 2017 #10
Ahem.... Liberalagogo Feb 2017 #11
Did you see the most recent episode of "Girls," titled "American B**ch"? yallerdawg Feb 2017 #13
Thanks for posting this CousinIT, I didn't know this about Gibson or Affleck.. n/t secondwind Feb 2017 #14
Beyond that he's talentless. One note city. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #15
At what point do we "know" he's guilty? mythology Feb 2017 #16
The cases were settled. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #17
This win meant nothing except continuing the status quo. Brie Larson was resigned. Not good optics. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #18
Exactly explains devaluation of women and its pervasiveness BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #19
K&R JudyM Feb 2017 #20
Not only that, but I wasn't particularly impressed by his acting in that movie. Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2017 #21
Boycott Their Movies erpowers Mar 2017 #22
We have a history of forgiving convenient performers even when they're horrible people Orrex Mar 2017 #23

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
1. And he will continue to terrorize women and
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017

then harass them as well.

Well, he is off my viewing list. I won't support him with my money...even if it is on netflix.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. hypocrisy in action: truth
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017
but then who said americans can't be hypocritical and sexist, a lot of people voted for one. Why should LaLawood actors and actresses be any different. I find out they are assholes, I don't support them with my $$$ and tell people about them.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
3. "That one soul-deadening lesson"
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:58 PM
Feb 2017

God. That's it in a nutshell. That realization that we are unworthy, second class citizens to the powers that be. Eff that.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
5. If Hollywood liberals don't
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:18 PM
Feb 2017

Want to be accused of hypocrisy, then they need to pay attention to character. It matters. It matters to me. I won't spend a dime to watch Affleck's movie.

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
7. And yet many of those
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:32 PM
Feb 2017

sniffing about "Hollywood liberals" and "elites", etc., are the same ones who gladly put Drumpf into office, gleefully and willfully ignoring all of the numerous reports of his sexual assaults and Neanderthal views and treatment of women. Hell, many of them feel that way themselves. So, while they have a point about Affleck, their fingers are pointing straight back at them.

3catwoman3

(23,950 posts)
8. Not being a fan of "angsty" and...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:38 PM
Feb 2017

...depressing movies, I was not planning on going. One more reason not to, now.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
12. Affleck settled both lawsuits, which were asking $2.5 million each
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:32 PM
Feb 2017

So the allegations will never be "proved." Most settlements require the victims to remain silent in the future.

An interesting story about him: http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/why-the-casey-affleck-sex-harassment-allegations-wont-stick.html

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
13. Did you see the most recent episode of "Girls," titled "American B**ch"?
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:52 PM
Feb 2017

It was a disturbing commentary on this subject.

The end gave it away, I think.

A surreal parade of young women, heading into the residence of the awful writer - and we know he is awful!

Close scene. Role credits.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. At what point do we "know" he's guilty?
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 06:05 PM
Feb 2017

To me it's hard to justify banning based just on accusations. There is a significant difference between an accusation and a conviction or even a criminal trial.

The notion about people having less and less chance to be heard goes both ways.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,088 posts)
18. This win meant nothing except continuing the status quo. Brie Larson was resigned. Not good optics.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 06:14 PM
Feb 2017

I don't know if this was a calculated boys club effort. Or if right wing attacks on Feminism has created a large segment of American Male pigs, or if he is really that talented.

Where was Cumberbatch when we needed him? Playing another superhero in the age of "Pussy Grabbing".


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brie-larson-casey-affleck-best-actor-oscars_us_58b40546e4b060480e09a7e4

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. Exactly explains devaluation of women and its pervasiveness
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:47 PM
Feb 2017

I've been ranting on this subject for so many years, I barely have anything left to say.

She analyzed the phenomenon much more widely and deeply than I've ever been able to express.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
21. Not only that, but I wasn't particularly impressed by his acting in that movie.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 11:29 PM
Feb 2017

He played a character who mostly acted emotionally dead in a monotone voice because of an accidental tragedy in the character's life.

The story was sad in many ways, but his acting performance wasn't much of a factor for me.

Edit: If they needed someone to act depressed and say few words, they could have contacted me!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
22. Boycott Their Movies
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:56 PM
Mar 2017

Instead of complaining about men like Casey Affleck getting Oscar awards women need to refuse to watch their movies. If the studios do not make money off of certain actors those actors most likely will not be cast in future movies.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
23. We have a history of forgiving convenient performers even when they're horrible people
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:03 PM
Mar 2017

See the unambiguously disgusting Bill Maher, for example.

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