I cannot believe this muthafucka went there. VOICE. Really?

[bravenak]

Victims of immigrant crime enforcement? Deporting legal immigrants who are on food stamps? This bastard wants Democrats to work with him after that?
I guess he thinks we're all a bunch of Neville Chamberlains, ready to appease the Orange Hitler. I bet not see nobody tryina unify with this nazi. Him and his New Gestapo.

[uponit7771]

1. Yeap, had to play to his racist base... no need for that Bullshit

[bravenak]

2. I bet the pundits drool until they realize how fucked up it looks

[Blue Idaho]

3. You did hear that he suggested that Jews are as guilty as

Fascists for the uptick in violence in America - right? This guy is at least a closet KKK member.

[bravenak]

4. Hell yeah, I heard that.

When I compare him to Hitler, im being kind

[Blue Idaho]

5. Yes, yes you are...

[sheshe2]

9. He has been out of that closet for a long time.

[Cha]

14. WTF.. I can only imagine how pissed Jewish people are.. that's straight

from bannon and shit for brains.

[Blue Idaho]

17. Yup...

I wonder how this plays out at home with Ivanka and Hubby? Obviously Trump knows his real base is the Alt-Right white supremacists and there is no way he's going to cross them.

[Cha]

18. He should be scaring everyone else the fuck away..

[Blue Idaho]

30. I ain't scared

But I'm staying well away from that asshole and his fascist followers...

[Honeycombe8]

71. Say he didn't say that, or clearly suggest that. I hope I hope. Nooooooo. nt

[Petrushka]

81. See reply 76 for links to the text of his speech. (eom)

[Petrushka]

76. Here are a few inks to the full text of his speech---for those doing their own fact checking ---

Last edited Wed Mar 1, 2017, 03:34 PM - Edit history (3)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/28/politics/donald-trump-speech-transcript-full-text/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-speech-full-text_us_58b5e329e4b0a8a9b786cdfc

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/trump-tells-congress-the-time-for-trivial-fights-is-behind-us/

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/read-full-text-trumps-address-congress/



Anyway . . . . . . There are other sources where one can find the text of his speech but---long story, short---I couldn't find where he "...suggested that Jews are as guilty as Fascists for the uptick in violence in America - right?" . . . and I HAD to fact check because I didn't HEAR him say as much and wondered what I'd missed.

So . . . "You did hear that... - right?"









Edited to add:

As the first grandchild of a Lithuanian Jew, I find it upsetting and offensive to even imagine any DUer inventing (faking?)rumours when truth and facts are sufficient.

[octoberlib]

88. He didn't say it during last nights speech. He said it before the speech to

the Pennsylvania AG in a response to the Jewish cemetery desecration.

President Trump on Tuesday told attorneys general from across the country that the recent rash of attacks and threats against Jewish institutions was “reprehensible” but suggested that it might not only reflect anti-Semitism, according to Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro

Sometimes, the president said, "the reverse can be true," Shapiro said, recalling the conversation at the White House. "Someone's doing it to make others look bad."

Shapiro said he found the comment “a bit curious.” He said Trump promised to speak about the topic in his address to Congress Tuesday night.

"Hopefully, he'll clarify a bit more about what he means about the reverse possibly being true," Shapiro said.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/Pennsylvania-Shapiro-Trump-attacks-Jewish.html

[Blue Idaho]

91. Thank you of the link!

There is no limit to how low 45 will go to pander to his white supremacist base.

[Petrushka]

93. "'Hopefully, he'll clarify a bit more about what he means..., Shapiro said. '"

Shapiro said "...Trump promised to speak about the topic in his address to Congress Tuesday night." Promised? Might as well do what my dad would say to do---"Wish in one hand, shit in the other."---because all Trump ended up saying on the subject didn't "clarify" a damned thing, viz:

"Recent threats targeting Jewish Community Centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week's shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a Nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all its forms."


Thank you, in any case, for the link you provided. In addition to the main article, that page contains links to a number of related articles and a link to letters-to-the-editor on the subject. I have yet to discover, however, where Trump "...suggested that Jews are as guilty as Fascists for the uptick in violence in America - right?"

[Honeycombe8]

95. I didn't find it, either, from word searching the text. nt

[Cha]

6. We better not see that.. he's on crack

Link to tweet

[bravenak]

7. Cocaine is one HELL of a drug

[Cha]

13. he doesn't drink or smoke but

he sure sniffs too much.

[bravenak]

19. Yes he sure does

[pfitz59]

78. Yes. He said it was a record...

The very long applause for the crying Carryn Owens was moving—and led Trump to ad-lib this weird line, referring to the extended clapping:

"Ryan is looking down right now, you know that, and he is very happy because I think he just broke a record."

[Cha]

79. Yes, Ryan's so happy you sent him on a

mission of death.. because you rushed into it without enough intel.

A mission President Obama turned down as too risky

[octoberlib]

8. And his comment that "we're all made by the same God"

because only Christians are true Americans, you know.

[bravenak]

20. Hella racist and bigoted.

We are in hell

[Cha]

57. My parents made me, MF.

octoberlib

[octoberlib]

86. Cha!

[FrankfurtCat]

10. Unbelievable-if I hadn't heard it with my own ears-I wouldn't believe it.

[bravenak]

22. This should be all we talk about

His evil plans

[NotThisTime]

11. What, wait, I didn't watch, he wants to deport legal immigrants on food stamps? all immigrants? Even

citizens?

[bravenak]

23. Yes!

[NotThisTime]

45. OMG.... WTH??

[bravenak]

47. Pundits are deaf as hell to that part!! The immigrant roundup will begin at noon, im sure

[ismnotwasm]

12. That's how he got elected--a racist prick

Who speaks for the rest of the racist pricks

[bravenak]

24. I better not hear NOTHIN else about his voters bein 'hurt financially'

[hibbing]

50. I posted this all the time during the campaign

So many articles and commentary about these former factory workers blah blah blah, but the corporate media for the most part ignored or underplayed the blatant racism. Now these people have real power and are in the White House. I'm terrified.


Peace

[iluvtennis]

51. +100 nt

[pinboy3niner]

74. Colbert noted Dems wearing white in honor of women's suffrage and said...

..."Republicans were white in honor of who elected them."

[GReedDiamond]

15. I'll just put this here...

I'm sure it's been seen by many DUers already, but there it is.

[bravenak]

25. You forgot this

https://m.

[GReedDiamond]

31. Thanks, I like them both, now that you mention it...nt

[bravenak]

32. Me too, any thing with FDT in it pleases me

[panader0]

35. LOL-- I gotta admit that I haven't heard of Nipsey Hussle

But I sure remember this guy: Nipsey Russell.

[bravenak]

36. I hadn't heard of him until recently

Kinda cool how they pay homage

[yuiyoshida]

61. oh yeah.

[bravenak]

62. Guuurl, that's my fav gif

I watched it on repeat for an hour when it went down

[yuiyoshida]

63. Should add it to your gifs

on your page

[bravenak]

64. I might have to take one off to put it on, I like my set up

I used to change it often, but I hate trump so much

[yuiyoshida]

65. you him twice, take off the first one :)

[bravenak]

66. Good idea, I think on it

He hates the chin pic

[Rex]

16. He wants to control the country like his dictator friend, Putin or worse.

It is so fucking obvious. The GOP of course will go along and be Good Americans, they've been losing their marbles since Reagan and are ready to throw the rest of us in pits. All of us.

It is kinda like a police state.

[bravenak]

27. Hell yeah. And he wants us to help him fuck us over. Like, really?

Only manchin...

[Rex]

48. I hear that.

Fuck Trump and every single person that supports his regime. We cannot ever allow THIS to become the normal. Ever. I'd rather die than let this become the new normal.

[bravenak]

49. I with you

Fuck being nice. We'll nice ourselves right into our graves, tryna be polite

[Cha]

75. Yeah, and the m$m goes right along trying their damnest to

make it seem NORMAL.

[Rex]

94. We need to make sure the media

Knows we hold them equally responsible for Trump. Telling us we won before we did was their use of voter suppression. IMO.

[joet67]

21. yes and quite a few gasped

[bravenak]

28. They should have walked out

[joet67]

37. i was shocked by it, and that collective gasp was wholly appropriate, imo. if anyone walked

out who would have blamed them? oh wait...

[bravenak]

38. Hell, I woulda walked anyway and blamed him

[joet67]

39. me too

[logosoco]

26. It seems sickening that THIS would be a new thing

while at the same time they want to gut the EPA and cut regulations on the FDA!

[bravenak]

29. He's crazy

[Charles Bukowski]

33. This idea has "unconstitutional" written all over it.

Still, anyone who thinks Shitstain will entertain the idea of immigration reform is sadly delusional.

[bravenak]

40. He better watch his step

Before he has an Arch Duke Ferdinand moment

[Wounded Bear]

34. They used to be better at catchy names for their racist bullshit...

Did Frank Luntz retire?

[bravenak]

41. Crazy right? Why are they ignoring this?

[cpamomfromtexas]

42. I recommend VOPPJC-- Victims of Police, Prosecution, and Judicial Corruption

Something like this would go a long way to healing our nation.

Edit- and demand accountability for abusing the citizenry.

[bravenak]

43. I would join that group

[cpamomfromtexas]

44. I am going to write him about it. Even though he will probably ignore it.

[bravenak]

46. Better get it onto Morning Joe, it's all he notices

[gwheezie]

52. Donald Duterte

He's going full president Duterte declaring open season on large segments of society. White people can stand their ground, run people over & be stark raving bonkers mad & still buy a gun to shoot up the country.
This is going to get very bad.

[bravenak]

53. Yep, soon he will suggest executing them

[ancianita]

54. The disapproval of the Dems and others was audible.

[bravenak]

55. I hope he hears it!

Because that's what stuck out to me of his entire speech.

[Doodley]

56. The main purpose of VOICE will be to serve as a Donald Trump propaganda tool to create hatred

and anger towards immigrants so he can promote his racist agenda.

[bravenak]

58. Wonder who his Leni Riefenstahl will be?

Not Krypt Keeper Kellyanne. Her time is past up.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

69. Our tool: Real VOICE: Victims Of ICE. . . . nt

[littlemissmartypants]

59. It's so evil, I am seriously having trouble even trying

to think about it. It's such a twisted idea. Got to be one of President Bannon's pet projects.

[bravenak]

60. I had wondered if he had it in him to go full Hitler

Yep. I was right. He does.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

67. We need a real voice: Victims OF ICE. . . . nt

[bravenak]

68. Truth! And victims of trump egregiousness. Vote, i call it.

[Honeycombe8]

70. I didn't watch it, so I missed all that. Glad I did.

Did he really say he wanted to deport legal immigrants who are on food stamps? That's currently illegal to do that, I would htink.

[bravenak]

73. He did say it

It was mixed in with other garbage. Basically he said if they ended up not able to support themselves...???...??? Bye! Tschuss! Adios!

[Cha]

77. Did he use a teleprompter?

[bravenak]

83. I think so

[Cha]

84. Then his speech is null and void from the get.

[malaise]

80. But but but it's oh so

presidential

[bravenak]

82. Van jones is disgusting

[Skidmore]

85. I believe it..

he pretty much has telegraphed that he thinks white people don't commit violent crimes. Universe help those of is who are not white enough, have surnames which are suspect, or practice other religions than Christianity. We are on a slippery slope, and it is a steep on.

[bravenak]

90. Yep. And then the pundits helped him bigly, like always

[MrScorpio]

87. That was some seriously sick shit

Didn't you hear the gasps?

[bravenak]

89. I heard it but wondered why they stayed

[Tommy_Carcetti]

92. Stop being such a wet blanket.

He said it with a more presidential tone than in past instances, and that's all that matters.



( in case it wasn't painfully obvious already)