He said something about Obama raised the debt more than any other President.

[Equinox Moon]

Wrong!!!

Bush with his fucking war did.

[MFM008]

1. maggot trying to change history

those alternate "facts".

[Equinox Moon]

3. Tons of lies!

Horrible example of leadership. An absolute disgrace.

[JHB]

36. Which just goes to show he's a mainstream Republican

[Sophiegirl]

2. Fact checkers

I feel sorry for them. They are gonna have a loooong night.

[Equinox Moon]

8. Yep.

Plus, he brought up the idiotic made-up statistic that America's crime is at an all-time high.

Bullshit!!!

[Cha]

4. Would the fuckers in congress even let Pres Obama raise

it?

I can imagine Obama watching this shite show

[underpants]

5. Mr. Money guy doesn't understand compound interest

[Equinox Moon]

9. Why "underpants?"

[underpants]

11. Eh?

The name or compound interest?

[Equinox Moon]

12. The name!

[underpants]

18. Short story

I joined in Oct 2001 and had to chose a name. It's from "Family Vacation" - "hey bartender! Hey underpants!" I always thought it was a funny word. Literally that's it.

[Equinox Moon]

20. Ha!

Fun



(BTW - thanks for the statistics chart.)

[Rhiannon12866]

35. I do remember your explanation

But I miss your amusing graphic...

[Fred Sanders]

6. Yes, T. forgot to mention the Iraq war was off the books until Obama came along and had to

fix the big lie by adding it to the debt so could be payed off.

Half-truths are also lies, especially from a politician.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

7. It's not wrong

President Obama did raise the national debt more than all other Presidents combined.

But there were many good reasons for doing so.

[Equinox Moon]

10. To bring the hidden Iraq war expense into the fold.

(is my understanding)

[SickOfTheOnePct]

16. The national debt

is all of the debt - including war expenses. Those costs have always been included in the national debt.

[brush]

29. Why are you agreeing with trump's lie?

That's a repug talking point lie.

Obama added the off-the-books trillions that Bush's wars ballooned the deficit to, and which accounts for a huge portion of the so called Obama increase.

In fact, if you research it, you'll find that Obama was actually cutting the deficit from the huge increase that Bush's wars added to it.

[Wounded Bear]

14. It went up while he was pres...

He didn't single handedly raise it. The Repub Congress helped keep the deficits higher than they needed to be.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

17. Exactly n/t

[mnmoderatedem]

31. moreover, it's about the defecit not the debt

and deficit has steadily gone down under Obama.

and that is going to change drastically under Trump.

[Wounded Bear]

32. Repubs always choose which of those terms works best for them...

They switch back and forth all the time. I think their minions don't really know the difference, they just hear "the gov't owes money and it's BAD" when their reps babble about either. Oh, and it's always the fault of Dems. Always.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. The wars were put "on budget" rather than off budget

Most of the funding for the wars was done via "supplemental appropriations" during the summer and was never included in the budget. Once that cost was put "on budget", the REAL deficit/debt appeared.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/us/politics/20budget.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/11/us-public-defrauded-hidden-cost-iraq-war

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1868367,00.html

[SickOfTheOnePct]

26. None of that matters

with regards to the national debt; only with how the deficit was portrayed on an annual basis. It was still added to the national debt as the money was spent.

[Seasider]

33. It's misleading at best

The debt did go up a lot under Obama but if people are looking for someone to blame for the nations deep debt, it's Conservative hero Ronald Reagan. A lot of the debt that happened on Obamas watch was set in motion before he even took office.

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/has-president-obama-doubled-national-debt

[CentralMass]

13. The national debt rose by nearly $10 trillion during President Obama's tenure.

So i believe that statement is somewhat true. .

[Equinox Moon]

15. From the Iraq war

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. The Iraq war cost $3 trillion n/t

[Equinox Moon]

23. WoW!!!

Well, now that I think about it, Obama's drone war must have been pretty spendy too.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

25. Don't get me wrong

I have no issue with the additions to the national debt during the Obama administration. I just think that we need to call out the actual lies that Trump spout rather than focusing on the rare tidbits of truth.

[Mc Mike]

37. More than 9 trillion of the 11.7 trillion dollar pre-Obama national debt

occurred under 3 repug presidents, Raygun, Poppy, and li'l bush.

More than 2 trillion dollars of the debt spending under Prez Obama, in the last 8 years, was spent on interest payments for debt service, on the debt that was created by the last 3 repug admins.

Any statement that any repug makes, ever, about the 'terrible' national debt or 'abhorrent' deficit spending, is a standard lying fake repug whine. They never gave a crap about the national debt.

[CentralMass]

21. You are preaching to the qoir on that. However we typically saddle each President with the debt

that is added during their tenure.

[spanone]

22. Liar-In-Chief

[onecaliberal]

27. Last I heard house of reps hold the power of the purse. They were in charge for almost the

Entirety of the Obama presidency.

[Elwood P Dowd]

28. The policies that caused most of it were put in place long before Obama took office.

The two wars

Hundreds of billions a year in Bush tax breaks for the rich

The 2007-2008 economic disaster and the fallout from that is still costing us money

Homeland Security spending

The Medicare Drug Bill

The Wall Street bailouts

[PdxSean]

34. This

Plus, congress controls the purse, not the President.

[leanforward]

30. Wrong is right.

The House refused to consider any revenue increase. In their collective, the GOP can not run a thriving business.

We have to keep in mind, the house originates spending. A good business/corporation keeps track of its revenue/taxes. These guys can't do the right thing. They might not be reelected. The debt increases, they chose to run us into greater debt for the families on the lower end of the income scale.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I am a loyal American, in opposition to pRizedent dRumpf and the republican party.