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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:04 AM Mar 2017

Polls showing majority support and approval for Trump's speech reflect a media failure

...consider the reaction of these two self-satisfied journos:







This formula for reporting accepts the public polls at face value and gives Trump's policy, statements, and agenda legitimacy and standing against the Democratic opposition, just on that basis alone.

However, no reporter or journalist should be satisfied that the majority of those polled accept obvious and provable lies as supportable truth. No reporter should be satisfied that lies they are reporting verbatim are registering with majority of public as genuine and with favor.

Unless journalists are invested in the charade, they should admit these initial polls are a reflection of media's failure to clarify Trump's positions and relate those realities to the public at large.

Of course, most will revert to the game of equalizing Trump's lies with the Democratic opposition's agenda, basically giving him props for lying well. But if they take a moment to reflect on Trump calling them the 'enemy of the people' the other day, they should understand that settling for the role of observers or bystanders isn't going to give them refuge or protection from the president's intention to end them.

The only safe role for the press is to speak truth to power. That's the only validating authority they have left. These early polls show that Democrats do, indeed, have their work cut out for them. Yet, that doesn't absolve the press. They need to decide whether they're drama critics or journalists.




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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. Approval for his speech is lower than Obama and Bush, Americans don't like Benedict Donald and his
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

... base doesn't like the Russia ties

still_one

(92,116 posts)
3. 95% of his appointments are people who want to destroy the agencies they are in charge
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:21 AM
Mar 2017

The people who are part of his team are racists, antisemites, sexists, and xenophobes.

His actions tell you exactly what he is going to do.

If the polls show the majority of Americans support and approve of his speech, what the hell does that mean? Based on our electoral system, the country elected a racists, sexist, and xenophobe.

47% of the people didn't even bother to vote.

In 1934 the German public voted 90% in favor of the person responsible for the deaths of over 60 million people.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
6. Give it a few days to sink in. It is mostly a failure of the inability of a lot of 45 supporters
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:00 PM
Mar 2017

to recognize fact from fiction. The hype is high and admittedly 45 gave his best ever speech for STYLE. He now believes that he will be able to do any damn thing he and Bannon want and his base and a lot of ill-informed others will just focus on his speech and how it sounded rather than on what he will actually be doing. That only works for a while. It is up to us to keep the pressure on and the fact-checking and the exposure of his seedy ties to bad actors around the world.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
7. There's always a bump after a speech like that...
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:02 PM
Mar 2017

acolytes quote daily polls. Intelligent people look at trends and how things look over a longer period of time.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
8. The poor media is tired of the negativity day after day
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:05 PM
Mar 2017

They insist upon that oh so American UPBEAT feeling, oh wow, oh gee, our President is a good guy, yaddy yaddy, back to business as normal.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
12. it's no wonder Trump feels free to try and end them
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:20 PM
Mar 2017

...the majority value the theatrics as much as he does.

It doesn't take much flexing at them from Trump to treat his prominence as validation, like they would any popular network star. They think it's peer-to-peer, when it's really mogul to peon.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
9. When polling reactions to the speech, they can only poll people who watched the damned thing.
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

I could never be polled for my approval on it because there is no way in hell I would ever watch the walking, talking, pile of shit give a speech.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
10. Same way they normalized him during the campaign.
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:12 PM
Mar 2017

The media lives from moment to moment....Look! A squirrel!

Cha

(297,110 posts)
11. I don't get Sam Stein.. so trump whipped up his base.. and got the m$m on their knees..
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:14 PM
Mar 2017

why didn't stein mention trump lied instead of telling us how effective he thinks it is?




And, the m$$$$$m praised trump.

If Obama had done this shit.. do you think the m$m would have praised?


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