If You're Dismayed about the Reception for Trump's Speech,

[MineralMan]

don't stress out too much. He'll be right back to his normal idiocy today. Apparently, he can read a prepared speech. Someone wrote him a speech that mollified some in the media. Very shortly, though, he'll be back out uttering his usual word salad blather in his own words.

Besides, the fact-checking has begun to come in, and his lies and misstatements in last night's speech are being called out today. Don't despair. It was just one speech, and people forget quickly.

[HipChick]

1. Con Man...

shame on those that fall for it

[MineralMan]

2. Indeed.

After some analysis, I think we can expect reviews of his utterings to slip downward.

[HipChick]

18. If folks don't know that Don the Con is lying 99.9% of the time

then there is something wrong their perception..

[Docreed2003]

3. I just wish we could take a "Morning after pill" for this speech

[MineralMan]

4. Well, he read the speech in front of him

acceptably well. So, the media is pointing that out. No surprise there. Now, back to reality.

[Docreed2003]

8. Which is crazy, right??

The media is giving praise to the man for READING a speech that he didn't write! What type of collective mental dysfunction has taken over this country!?

[MineralMan]

10. It's weird, isn't it?

Well, it's a weird world we live in, I guess. But, analysis of his speech is underway, and it's not going to look as good as it sounded after people really study the speech.

I listened to it last night on the radio, instead of watching it. As he spoke, I was thinking about what he said, compared to what is actually factual. The speech was written to sound a certain way, but the underlying plans tell a different story. Put simply, he lied continuously for over an hour.

[PRETZEL]

14. Totally agree

it's out there now for all to see and disect.

By week's end you should start to see the contradictions and distortions coming into full view.

[mwb970]

61. I admire you for being able to listen.

The moment his voice comes on the radio, I turn it off or switch stations. When a video podcast shows a clip of him, I skip over it. He is not welcome in my home or car.

[bora13]

23. or a "forget me now"

[3catwoman3]

31. I wanted one of those...

...on November 9th.

[Blanks]

5. Additionally, I'd like to add...

That saying positive things about his speech shows that the press was giving him a chance.

They can later say "he seemed to have changed during his first speech to a joint session of congress, but it turns out it was just another campaign event."

If they don't say anything positive about it now, they can't point out how they were giving him a shot.

[MineralMan]

6. Yes. The Positive Reaction

is for his delivery of a prepared speech. Not his words. He is incapable of writing what he read last night. He'll be back to himself this morning, no doubt.

[OldHippieChick]

7. Any headline from NYT about the fact-checking

and he'll be back tweeting about the failing NYT. His speech may have mentioned putting trivial discussions behind us, but he will not let it go. He simply can't help himself.

[ismnotwasm]

9. I didn't despair

I didn't watch and went straight to the fact checking. Why should I listen to an asshole who consistently lies?

[MineralMan]

13. I listened, because a lot of people were listening.

Still, we're a very forgetful public. One evening's speech passes like nothing. Trump is still Trump. He'll quickly negate everything he said last night, when he was speaking someone else's word.

[nikibatts]

11. That's the problem: people forget quickly.

They will forget quickly his real character, his racism and all his other isms and phobics. Remember it's much easier to keep fooling people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.

[mythology]

19. Except he defaults to his real character

He played the part tonight, but the next time he isn't lauded or comes across a puzzle more complicated than a tic-tac-toe board with 8 squares already filled in, he will revert to his normal asshat nature.

[Solly Mack]

12. Not dismayed by it. Same old idiots are going to believe him no matter what.

Fact-checkers will fact check, so actual info will be out there. Trump's a liar and the people that know that still know it.

We already know when presented with facts, a lot of people double-down on their ignorance since their ignorance is comfortable and conforms to what they want to believe.

Pretty much, the status-quo, as it were, hasn't changed because of that speech.

I expected the GOP to do their best in the overkill with their clapping and applause. They did.

I was surprised Shrump didn't stray as much as I thought he would. But that's kind of meaningless. Anyone thinking that was a pivot or a show of unity has such a low bar that they are, themselves, belly crawlers.

[MineralMan]

15. Yup. That speech was designed to create a specific effect.

Reality, though, will out.

[Plucketeer]

44. Yeah - for those of us with something more than a roach's brain.

His fellow roaches tho, don't give a shit about fact-checking or perspective or objectivity. They just loves them some savvy, crotch-grabbing business genius.

[randr]

16. My thoughts exactly

[mcar]

17. He'll have to start tweeting

to congratulate himself for the standing ovations. And to criticize Dems for not joining in.

Then, of course, they will continue tearing families apart, destroying the social safety net, the environment, etc.

[MineralMan]

21. Exactly.

[Wounded Bear]

20. There's always a bump after a speech like that...

he didn't step on his own dicktie, so it was a "success."

[MineralMan]

22. That's about it. If he doesn't fail utterly, he's a genius

in some people's minds. 'Tain't true, though.

[3catwoman3]

33. He probably can't find it...

...under his pendulous abdomen.

[lunatica]

24. It will be used to good effect to learn that what he says and what he does don't mesh

For some it's really hard to overcome idolatry. When his base see him they don't see the man. They see billion dollar signs which they think they will get from him. They believe God favors him because he's rich.

Idolatry. And throw in some Idiocracy and wallah! Trump in all his glory!

[Grammy23]

25. Mineralman, you always seem to have wise words for those of us in despair

about the attempts to normalize tRump. The thing I have to remind myself is that underneath it all is a very sick, flawed person. He can no more pivot or become presidential than the leopard can change its spots. He can disguise himself, hide his true self for a SHORT time using someone else's words and recommendations. But he will always revert to who he is at his core.

I am holding out hope that the people digging for information about ALL of trump's nefarious dealings will continue their work in spite of efforts to repackage him into something...ahem....more suitable to the job of President of the U.S.

Until then, I thank you for reminding us that he is who he is and morphing into a decent human being for tRump is the one thing he can't buy, fake or pretend for long.

[hamsterjill]

26. Yeah, well, he didn't even READ it well!

The man cannot read. He is not expressive and certainly not engaged.

If some idiots choose to fall for his one time of not losing his cool completely, then I cannot stop them. But I know better.

I haven't changed my mind about him.

[ananda]

27. I don't know.

This is a sign of bully syndrome, the once-attacked media
now compliant and full of normalizing bullshit.

Do you really think this is going to stop at some point?

[Turbineguy]

28. His base will support him

no matter what.

I was worried that he'd thrown them under the bus when he started out condemning hate, bigotry and violence, but later on he was able to correct that.

[DrDan]

29. the bar was set so incredibly low for him - all he had to do to succeed was to refrain from

his campaign rhetoric - no crowd-size comments, no mention of electoral votes, no "lock-her-up".

Kept his eyes on the teleprompter and no ad-libbing - success, "presidential", restrained.

[Foamfollower]

30. Give it a day or two, he'll be back on the shitter tweeting his dumb ass off.

Every morning like clockwork, he shits and tweets.

[kentuck]

32. As David Frum said:

David Frum ✔ @davidfrum
Pundit: “Doubts about Donald Trump have been quelled now that he has delivered an hour-long speech without jamming a pen into anyone’s eye."
5:34 AM - 1 Mar 2017

[3catwoman3]

34. The appallingly vile words about the dead Navy Seal...

...smiling down because of the long applause had to be his and his alone. Completely despicable.

[OliverQ]

35. I'm frustrated

because so many fall for this crap and think he walks on water, when smart people can see through the crap. It was also disgraceful how he used Owens' widow as a prop.

I think this country is doomed if this many people can be suckered by such a fake, teleprompter speech.

In other news, Republicans again voted against allowing the investigation into Russia to move forward. So Trump behaved sort of like a human for one hour, and suddenly we can ignore he's a traitor. Awesome...

[flamingdem]

36. We cannot afford to make our resistance about Trump!!!!!!!!

That is the message here. It has to be about policies or we'll be invisible when Trump is normalized.

[pnwmom]

37. Sorry, but I'm dismayed that the same broadcast media that promoted his candidacy

is now promoting his reality-TV Presidency.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

38. Thanks for a reasoned, logical, "adult" perspective. These people are masters at media manipulation.

[MFM008]

39. Because he

Didn't rip off his cloths and pee on the audience he gets praise for reading a speech Koko the gorilla could have delivered by sign language he gets praise......

[Nitram]

40. This wasn't no "home run." More like a foul ball.

They think he did good because he didn't strike out.

[Shrek]

41. "People forget quickly"

But I see that as a potential problem.

They'll forget the specifics of anything he talked about and anything the fact-checkers come up with.

What they'll remember is they watched him give a comparatively conventional speech, and the instant reaction was largely positive. That'll be the lasting impression regardless of its ultimate accuracy.

[blueseas]

42. Much needed words

Thanks - I cannot believe the people who think clapping for a grieving widow is somehow good?

[onenote]

43. Exactly. There is no reason to think he has undergone a personality transplant

The leopard doesn't change his spots.
Ultimately, all the nice promises in the world won't do him any good if he can't deliver and even the repubs are going to have a hard time with fulfilling many of the things on Trump's promise list.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

45. i wish i had read this before i posted

i said the almost the exact same thing

[MineralMan]

46. It can't be said too often, I think.

[TNLib]

47. The bar is so low now

If he didn't blather about voter fraud or make fun of Ryan's widow it's a good speech.

[TygrBright]

48. Not only that, it gives him an entirely false sense of being in control.

That'll generate some Olympic-level fucknuttery sooner rather than later.

And when the illusion is shattered, it'll take that much bigger a chunk out of his tiny, fragile little ego.

comfortingly,
Bright

[taught_me_patience]

49. He plays to what Americans want to hear

We're going to lower taxes and increase defense spending!!! Magic unicorns for all.

[HopeAgain]

50. When I heard all the positive comments on TV and radio...

all I could think of was of Act III, Scene 2, of Julius Caesar where Mark Anthony concludes his speech and says:

Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot. Take thou what course thou wilt.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. I want to know why people arent looking at his ACTIONS and not his speech.

Treason, for starters.

Immigration bans that kill innocent people.

An AG office that is about to start arresting liberals and celebrities for marijuana.

A budget that will devastate working class and reward the richest among us.

A full stop on all protections for our environment, this one alone is enough reason for the rest of the human race to say:

"time out, sorry, but we gotta interfere here" that and the nukes, is more than enough reason for something dramatic to happen.

[lark]

52. True!

He doesn't have the discipline or the inclination to make nice, except to head off his crashing approval ratings. Once he gets some good feedback, it'll be back to all hate all the time. That's who he is. What people saw Tues. was him being an actor, he has no kindness in him at all.

[still_one]

53. Don't even have to do that. Just look who he has appointed, and who is part of his administration,

and that says everything

[mulsh]

54. Fusion TV ran the Onion's running commentary, I turned my TV off immediately after the show.

I have never understood why people would need to have talking heads explain what they've just seen and heard.

That Donny read the completer sentences and didn't say the "n" word or try to start a chant I'll grant you was somewhat impressive.

I watched long enough to witness the majority of Democratic members scrambling to get out of there.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

55. Exactly. He read a prepared speech from a teleprompter

and some in the media are praising him to the skies because he managed not to wet himself or declare World War III. I don't know what possessed Van Jones but I hope he's cringing this morning, sort of like when you wake up after a bender and realize that last night you drunk-dialed your ex, sobbing that you were wrong about him/her and would he/she please please please take you back? (I've never done that, btw; I'm more inclined toward sober thoughts of bloody revenge).

But anyhow, Trump is what he is, and that's a narcissistic blowhard with the world's thinnest skin and a mean streak a mile wide, and he'll soon be back to what is normal for him (and off-the-charts nuts for most other people). The speech wasn't a "pivot"; it was the result of his handlers coming up with a speech that was slightly less apocalyptically terrifying than the last one; stuffing it in the teleprompter and commanding him to read it as written or else President Bannon wouldn't let him sit at the big desk and the White House chef would cook his steaks medium rare and without ketchup.

Nothing has changed, except maybe that Van Jones will have to hide for a couple of weeks until Twitter forgets what an ass he made of himself.

[nadine_mn]

56. He must be hit with a tranq gun before some speeches

You can usually tell the difference between when he is his usual blowhard self and when his aides have strapped him in and smacked him around

[Bernardo de La Paz]

57. He can ACT Presidential all he wants, but he is still an INCOMPETENT MINORITY President. . . . nt

[Marie Marie]

58. Trevor Noah dissected and called bullshit on a lot of his speech tonight on TDS.

Once again, "Fake News" gives us the "Real News" before the MSM could or would. Kudos to Trevor.

[rufus dog]

59. I am not dismayed at the speech

I am dismayed at the media.

Imagine if a Democrat launched a mission, the mission cost loss of lives and a helicopter, the mission was claimed to be a success based on intelligence gathered. Then it came out that the intelligence was bullshit. The President then tried to blame it on his predecessors and the generals.

Then a widow is brought on for an applause line, do you really think the media would have called it a wonderful moment?

[mwb970]

60. This has happened several times before.

He reads a speech someone else wrote off a Teleprompter, the very same device he whined about Obama using, and the nation breathes a sigh of relief. "Ah, he's finally presidential," we say. Then the very next day he tweets some idiotic nonsense that sounds like someone's senile, demented grandfather and we are right back in the soup.

[Vinca]

62. It's almost 24 hours after your post and, as predicted, all hell has broken loose.

[Ligyron]

63. I think they must have used some type of sedative or tranquilizer on him.

Plus, maybe Bannon promised him a pee-pee party in the Lincoln Bedroom afterward if he behaved.

[certainot]

64. liberals hav no answer for the 1000 radio stations across the country calling it

the best speech ever so it makes sense that ten of millions of people who are too busy or disinterested to watch it believe their crazy uncles when they tell them how fantastic it was

[MineralMan]

66. Liberals have no answer?

Really. Oh, we have an answer. But, I wonder if you consider yourself to be one of us...

[certainot]

67. liberals are whores, thieves , and traitors and

that's what 1200 radoi stations have been sceraming from every corner and stump in the country for 30 years, since reagan killed the fairness doctrine, and no, liberals have NO answer. we just stuck our ipods in our rears, waited for some mom and pop vs wall mart competition, and have been getting our asses kicked for 30 years.

tell me one organization outside of the limited stoprush that has made any effort.

it's the biggest political mistake in history. and now we have trump and a pack of idiots continue to analyze politics in a talk radio vacuum, like studying fish without water, and suggest idiotic shit like the dem party has to appeal better to 'white working class' voters in the rust (talk radio) belt as if that might help them figure out hillary's email server was NOT more important than global warming.

talk radio is the only major medium with no political counterpart on the left. and there are numerous other reasons why it kicks liberal ass, but the main one is that - the left stupidly ignores it.

we even let 88 major universities endorse it!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

65. I agree

but even Trump was amazed at the good reception to his speech.