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stopbush

(24,393 posts)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 05:45 PM Mar 2017

The Reagan Legacy: 37 years of fake issues, make-believe policies and contempt for democracy

That's what we're dealing with, my friends.

It all started with Raygun and his fantasies: welfare queens, trickle-down economics, asserting Carter's small deficits equaled mortgaging our childrens future, government is the problem, etc. And it's only gotten worse over the decades.

Where Raygun held an uneasy alliance with the then-emerging religious right, he didn't embrace the make-believe with the fervor of today's Rs, all of whom make Elmer Gantry look like a honest broker. Used to be you'd be looked on suspiciously were you to question science based on religious clap trap. Today, doing so is just one of the acceptable positions to hold as a politician.

The Problem: embracing the make believe of religion as if it were objective truth gives one license to make up anything else they wish about any subject they wish, and to aver that it's a truth, rather than an opinion. Every fake issue being advanced by tRump and the Rs finds its basis in that warped American version of Xianity, from their own sense of victimhood, to their sense of entitlement, to their zealous beliefs that the evil world is against them (if anyone can cite a RW policy that isn't religion based, I'll tip my hat. I sure can't come up with anything).

The Christian theocracy is here, my friends, wrapped in the flag and carrying a Bible, as the saying goes. What Barry Goldwater warned us about in the 60s is fully operational in 2017.

The Junior Bush administration laughed about creating their own realities, leaving the fact checkers stranded on objective island while they sailed the seas of make believe: an Iraq war that would take two weeks, no, make that two hours to win...and that would pay for itself; economic policies that led to the second Great Depression, etc. You get it.

And now, we have an administration that lies pathologically, making up issues and factoids to support their greed and contempt for democracy. There is no immigration problem. There are no masses coming here and taking American jobs. No one coming here committing crimes at an elevated level. But we are about to spend bilions on an unneeded wall, while posting weekly lists of all them non-whites committing crimes in the name of illegal immigration. Unemployment is way down? Say it's way up. Same with the crime rate. Same with, well, everything. Up is down and black is white.

And on and on it goes. Everything they say is not only a lie, it's a lie that is in 180° opposition to the truth. And the media eats it up, leading to the sheeple also eating it up.

Yep, we're fucked, my friends. You can't win sitting at a red light, only to get rear-ended by some guy who says that you're supposed to go on red, or that red is actually green, and have that fantasy supported by any government rep that happens along. You simply can't win.

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The Reagan Legacy: 37 years of fake issues, make-believe policies and contempt for democracy (Original Post) stopbush Mar 2017 OP
I have long said reagan was the worst president gopiscrap Mar 2017 #1
Can I crap on it too? Please. Doreen Mar 2017 #6
Reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles Mar 2017 #7
And that's why he's a Saint to republicans. Turbineguy Mar 2017 #2
"America Sucks" (TM) ymetca Mar 2017 #3
Very well stated. Basic LA Mar 2017 #4
The Reagan presidency made me give up on politics for 8 years. erinlough Mar 2017 #5
yup InformedElitist Mar 2017 #8

gopiscrap

(23,733 posts)
1. I have long said reagan was the worst president
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 05:57 PM
Mar 2017

we have ever had. I wish I was close enough to his grave so I could take a crap on it.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
3. "America Sucks" (TM)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:05 PM
Mar 2017

My first presidential vote was against Reagan, the man who said "government IS the problem" while wanting to lead it. I could not believe how people bought that bullsh*t.

Now we got a guy who said "America sucks", and got elected.

And they are both correct, because they and their supporters constantly make it so.

At least Clinton had the balls to lie to us about all his neoliberal clap-trap. NAFTA and repealing Glass-Steagall were sold as "a new 21st Century Economy with widely shared prosperity."

What utter horse-sh*t we've all been sold. By both sides.


 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
4. Very well stated.
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:26 PM
Mar 2017

Whenever I try to express this, it may seem that I'm normalizing Trump. No way! It's just that all this began with Reagan, & I feel somewhat inoculated against what's to come. Think we feel bad now, just wait until they name an aircraft carrier or airport after you-know-who. Oy.

InformedElitist

(39 posts)
8. yup
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:50 PM
Mar 2017

I often go thru the fruitless exercise of trying to figure out exactly when America "jumped the shark" and whether it was inevitable. I think it was either when JFK was murdered or when Reagan was elected or sometime in between.

While Nixon was quite the effective race-baitor in '68, Reagan did that and all of what you spelled out with a kind smile on his face. I think Obama was wrong when he said "people don't want to be ruled". These conservative types love authoritarians and Reagan was just that and people ate it up while they were being robbed blind. The cognitive dissonance of people having high regard for both Reagan and FDR used to surprise me (nothing surprises me after November though).

Whenever one of the ignorant assholes in my family (or in-laws) proclaims that "we need another Reagan!" I ask them why, and I never hear anything substantive. It usually boils down to that he made people feel good about America again after Carter was straight with them and warned people of the real challenge we faced then (and still do).

I've lost whatever faith I had in the electorate (and humanity in general) when Trump was even close to being elected. These presidents are really a reflection of America in all its ugliness and willful ignorance. Reagan -> Quayle -> W Bush -> Palin -> Trump. Just when you think we can't get dumber, we do.

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