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Stinky The Clown

(67,765 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:53 AM Mar 2017

I see signs of intelligent control

There is increasingly less chance of chance. This steady drip drip drip has all the signs of a serious - even brilliant - strategy. We KNOW the intelligence community is stirred up and worried. I speculate they're worried on two fronts: sources and methods getting conveyed to the Russians *and* fundamental concern for the country.

But then there is the leakage coming from various agencies. For example, the leaked memo, just today, from DHS about the stupidity of "extreme vetting" when the evidence is crystal clear that radicalization starts here, and starts years after immigrants arrive. Are these agency leaks the result of some staffer who just got fed up? It seems far more likely that they, too, are being controlled for maximum impact, by opening a new hot war front for the WH to fight. By doing so, they dilute even further the tiny staff of insiders at the WH.

We can laugh at the Keystone Kops nature of this sad episode, but the fact is, none of this seems to be happening in unrelated ways. Instead, it has all the earmarks of a centrally controlled campaign.

And THAT in itself is scary. Or it ought to be.

Many have said the election was a slow moving coup. Maybe what we have now is a more skillful version of the same thing.

Yes, some of this is funny. Until it isn't. And, increasingly, it isn't.

My money is on Langley.

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spin

(17,493 posts)
1. I remember many years ago when Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House. ...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:04 AM
Mar 2017

He held a presser that I happened to be watching on TV.

Some reporter asked him a question and he replied, "You don't mess with the Big Boys."

I have always wondered who he meant and I suspect it is our intelligence agencies.



Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
2. .
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:08 AM
Mar 2017

You might want to check your first graphic. I don't believe it's "friendly".

Your second one is hilarious though.

spin

(17,493 posts)
10. I reread 1984 recently. I had first read it back in the mid 1960s. ...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

It does seem to more applicable to today's world then it was then.

I like memes but admittedly I don't always check the source they came from. My bad.

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
3. I just wish someone would have leaked something before the election
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:15 AM
Mar 2017

The October surprise on their side never came. There had to have been something highly damaging to leak then, and with the stakes so high, there was every reason to do it. Sure, everyone still had their money on Hillary winning, but the polls were tightening a scary amount.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
9. It is such a shame that the dossier (much of it corroborated now) didn't get leaked before election
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:30 AM
Mar 2017

There were several people hinting about an explosive surprise that had been leaked to several media outlets, and it was apparently the dossier that media outlets were afraid to print. (Didn't want to risk their reputations if Hillary was winning anyway)

Instead while the Russian/Trump scandal was beginning to get some media traction, all of sudden in that week before election, NY Times killed all the momentum with their story that FBI officials had told them there were no contacts found between Trump campaign and the Russians. In hindsight, we were done in by cowardice by media and complacency by those who knew of dossier and got outplayed by pro-Trump FBI who were also behind Comey's email interference.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
4. The timing after the SOTU suggests it's definitely organized...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:18 AM
Mar 2017

...but I wouldn't be so quick to give the all credit to the IC alone.

I think what we're seeing is the politicization of the IC, with the factions being the Democratically-friendly, the traditionally conservative friendly, and the tea party/white nationalist/Russia-compromised types.

The first two appear to be teaming up to root out and destroy the latter, which is what makes this interesting.

Stinky The Clown

(67,765 posts)
7. So close that MI6 could handle this whole thing on their own if need be.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:17 AM
Mar 2017

Particularly with Obama having spread things around before he left.

cally

(21,591 posts)
8. I think foreign governments are leaking
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

They do not want Trump and they were monitoring. I think they are involved in the steady drip of information.

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