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Keith Ellison isn't just calling for Sessions' resignation, he's bringing up jail time (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
Damn straight Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #1
"Jeff Sessions Calls For Bill Clinton's Prosecution Over Perjury Allegations in 1999" Miles Archer Mar 2017 #2
Karma is a bitch dewsgirl Mar 2017 #12
Funny you should say that True Blue American Mar 2017 #24
Gollum Ligyron Mar 2017 #29
Henry Gibson of "Laugh -In." nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #30
the elf stuff is funny too, for some reason this has stuck with me. dewsgirl Mar 2017 #32
The standard we are held to: yallerdawg Mar 2017 #3
I get your point, but to be totally accurate Cosmocat Mar 2017 #10
Exactly DK504 Mar 2017 #16
Slow down... FarPoint Mar 2017 #4
Yeah. Let the GOPers stoke their own fire. LuvLoogie Mar 2017 #6
Keep your powder dry. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #13
Absolutely. Anything else is the same old gentlemanly acquiescence KPN Mar 2017 #20
The law is there for a good reason. Way to go, do not let up. Reminding the Republicans is a great BeckyDem Mar 2017 #5
Thank you Keith, THAT is what should be persued. OnDoutside Mar 2017 #7
It's a chess game... FarPoint Mar 2017 #15
I prefer Iron fist and Velvet glove myself ! We've had too much Velvet glove. OnDoutside Mar 2017 #18
He has boiled it down. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #8
LOCK HIM UP! Nitram Mar 2017 #9
Lock him up Achilleaze Mar 2017 #11
Jeff is really two people bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #14
They will NEVER (ever) get him on a perjury charge. MADem Mar 2017 #17
LOCK THEM UP! ffr Mar 2017 #19
more than just J. Beauregard S. RicROC Mar 2017 #21
Good for Ellison. KPN Mar 2017 #22
Sure, mention jail time but we'll settle for resignation. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #23
Fuck Yeah Blue Owl Mar 2017 #25
Good. I'm glad he's still in his seat. LisaM Mar 2017 #26
Exactly, LisaM.. it's working out the the very best Cha Mar 2017 #28
Lock him up malaise Mar 2017 #27
to quote my despicable 'deplorable' relatives with a small edit - "LOCK HIM UP" NoMoreRepugs Mar 2017 #31

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
1. Damn straight
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:34 AM
Mar 2017

As with Bill Clinton, the crime is the false swearing under oath, not the content of the underlying crime.

And the more we learn, the more it appears that the defenses potentially available to Sessions do not apply.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
12. Karma is a bitch
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:12 AM
Mar 2017

I think it was Stephen Colbert that called him,"baby grandpa", everytime I see him, those words go through my mind. Quite perfect for him.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
24. Funny you should say that
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:27 PM
Mar 2017

I was discussing with a friend what tiny comedian Sessions has always reminded me of.

Any suggestions? Baby Grandpa fits.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. The standard we are held to:
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:40 AM
Mar 2017

"I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God."

Their standard: "Whatever."

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
10. I get your point, but to be totally accurate
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:01 AM
Mar 2017

the standards that democrats are held to are whatever insanely deranged bullshit standard the lunatics come up with in any given moment.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Keep your powder dry.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:15 AM
Mar 2017

Count on the right-wing crazies to suddenly become intelligent and sane. Relax, compromise, and hope for the best.

Nope. This is war.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
20. Absolutely. Anything else is the same old gentlemanly acquiescence
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:11 PM
Mar 2017

that has always gotten us pummeled by the hardball righties!

Fuck slowing down. Methodical yes, but keep the frigging peddle to the metal in daily messaging for christ's sake.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
5. The law is there for a good reason. Way to go, do not let up. Reminding the Republicans is a great
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:03 AM
Mar 2017

way to go.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. They will NEVER (ever) get him on a perjury charge.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:41 AM
Mar 2017

That dawg just will not hunt. I'm a bit disappointed that Ellison is continuing to pursue this line--he should know better and probably does. It's fine to keep hammering on the FACT that he LIED, but they didn't get Ashcroft for the same thing, in similar circumstances, either, and they wisely didn't even try. Legislators are allowed to lie in the workplace, basically--that's the bottom line. Even under oath. You can charge them till the cows come home, you can even find them guilty, but you're not going to PUNISH them for it, unless you want to change a founding document.

Art 1 Sec 6 of the US Constitution, like it or not, gives ABSOLUTE protection to the speech of a sitting legislator within the halls of Congress--and it doesn't matter if they are speaking to give or receive testimony or in debate on the floor. The phrase "with impunity" and "shall not be questioned in any other place" are not ambiguous.

The door opens for prosecution when one looks at the possibility of TREASON, though (no "Get Outta Jail Free" card for that) --but there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.

The smart move is to keep focusing on the CONDUCT--he lied, he lied, he lied. He's not honorable--he tried to hoodwink us, he didn't tell the truth, he's untrustworthy, blah blah blah etc. etc. and so forth.


RicROC

(1,204 posts)
21. more than just J. Beauregard S.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:12 PM
Mar 2017

We need to know the names of ALL of the characters involved with Russian involvement in the 2016 sElection. Sessions is the first, but Trump, the son-in-law, Paul Ryan, Mitch McC, R.Prebus had some knowledge and ALL should face the legal consequences. The next Trump Hotel will be the new wing at Leavenworth Federal Prison.

...and then, the Supreme Court needs to nullify this 2016 sElection. That's an essential step to getting the US back to normal.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
22. Good for Ellison.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:18 PM
Mar 2017

I'm glad to see a prominent Democrat playing hardball right back at 'em. It's all about messaging -- lies and liar are passe; the public already believes all politicians lie -- lying has become accepted. Criminal behavior amounting to possible treason is another story though -- the message needs to be JAIL TIME for the Attorney Gebneral -- and anyone else in on the game.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
26. Good. I'm glad he's still in his seat.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:21 PM
Mar 2017

By all accounts, he's a great Congressman. He can currently make a lot more noise where he is than as head of the DNC.

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