How Uber Used Secret Greyball Tool to Deceive Authorities Worldwide

[LisaM]

Reason number six bajillion why I boycott this company.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/technology/uber-greyball-program-evade-authorities.html

[Renew Deal]

1. I'm impressed

They are one devious organization

[LisaM]

2. Yeah, well, cybernetting of data is very ubiqitous.

It helped promulgate fake news on social media and was one of the many things that influenced the election. They need to start teaching classes on it.

I don't know why people use this company, at least progressive people.

[unblock]

3. holy crap! overt and systemic lying to law enforcement!

it's impressively bad enough to identify and avoid providing service to suspected law enforcement personnel, but to actually deceive them by showing them ghost cars and such?

wow, just... wow!

[LisaM]

4. But nothing gets done about them.

People like convenience over ethics, I guess. I'm not actually against the concept of "ride sharing", but it's not ride-sharing at all, it's a sub rosa taxi industry that is skirting a lot of taxes and rules.

[unblock]

6. exactly. taxis have all these licenses and requirements, why should "ride sharers" be exempt?

i was nearly killed in a taxi back in 1995 -- it stalled out in the middle lane of a freeway at night, we were rear-ended.
one of the three times in my life i was in a car without seatbelts. always been a fanatic, but this cabbie pulled away the second i got in the cab, before i realized there was no seatbelt in the back...

yet as much as i loathe taxis, i can't imagine ever using uber or lyft. my survival odds have to be better with a professional driver and a car that's regularly serviced, etc.

never mind the obvious ethical problems with uber/lyft's business practices....

[crazycatlady]

9. I wouldn't exactly call uber ride sharing

Ride sharing is when your neighbor gives you a ride to the grocery store because he's going too.

With Uber, a driver goes out of the way to pick you up. It is basically turning the driver's personal car into an unlicensed taxi service.

I wish they would stop calling it ride sharing because it is not.

[Volaris]

5. How the hell can it possibly be legal for a companies TOS

To include 'non-cooperation with law enforcement'

[AngryAmish]

7. 5th Amendmwnt

[Volaris]

8. I keep forgetting corporations have the same Rights as I do.

But I bet like hell if you or I tried to 'non-cooperate' with law enforcement the Fifth Amendment would be rolled up and used to beat us about the head for a good little bit.