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applegrove

(118,492 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:48 PM Mar 2017

It looks like another Trump adviser has significantly changed his story about the GOP's dramatic

shift on Ukraine

http://www.businessinsider.de/jd-gordon-trump-adviser-ukraine-rnc-2017-3?r=US&IR=T

Natasha Bertrand, Business Insider

"SNIP............


Diana Denman, the GOP delegate who proposed amending the Ukraine platform to include the "lethal weapons" language, contradicted Gordon's version of events in an interview with Business Insider in January. She said Gordon and another Trump campaign representative asked the cochairmen of the subcommittee to table the amendment after she read it aloud.

"Two men sitting over to the side of the room — I had no idea who they were but later found out they were Trump representatives — jumped up and tore over to get behind the three cochairmen," she said.

Gordon then left the room to make a phone call, Denman said. Equal parts confused and angry over her proposal being scuttled, Denman said she confronted Gordon about whom he was calling.

"I'm calling New York," Gordon replied, according to Denman.

"I work for Mr. Trump, and I have to clear it," she recalled him saying, apparently in reference to the amendment.


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It looks like another Trump adviser has significantly changed his story about the GOP's dramatic (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2017 OP
Oh, dear. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #1
Sounds like he knew the fix was in in March, 2016. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #2
Just reported today that Gordon has now changed his story to match this Diana Denman's account wishstar Mar 2017 #3
Here's how I'm reading it FakeNoose Mar 2017 #4
Trump has been playing dumb on Ukraine since. Could be his hit applegrove Mar 2017 #5
This is the same Trump who didn't know Russia had already Hortensis Mar 2017 #7
Hope they get her on CNN or MSNBC kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #6

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. Sounds like he knew the fix was in in March, 2016.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:09 PM
Mar 2017

From the article:

He didn't want to have world war three over Ukraine?

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
3. Just reported today that Gordon has now changed his story to match this Diana Denman's account
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

So they are both saying Trump was definitely the one responsible for the platform change in favor of Russia vs. Ukraine since Gordon was only acting on behalf of Trump's direct orders

FakeNoose

(32,589 posts)
4. Here's how I'm reading it
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:29 PM
Mar 2017
According to CNN's Jim Acosta, however, Gordon said that at the RNC he and others "advocated for the GOP platform to include language against arming Ukrainians against pro-Russian rebels" because "this was in line with Trump's views, expressed at a March national security meeting at the unfinished Trump hotel" in Washington, DC.

"Gordon says Trump said at the meeting ... that he didn't want to go to 'World War Three' over Ukraine," Acosta said.


This would have been referring to March 2016, when Trump had only been running for a few months and had no idea he would win the Nomination or the Presidency. So I'm reading this as standard Trump hyperbole, as in "let's not make a big fuss over this."

I don't believe Trump thought so far ahead as to realize that his finger would actually be on the button to start World War Three. At least, not in March 2016. But I could be wrong.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
5. Trump has been playing dumb on Ukraine since. Could be his hit
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:13 PM
Mar 2017

and miss dyslexic intellect or it could be his salesman/politician lying ***. Remember when he forgot about Crimea and the Russians? Maybe he was afraid and went blank on the where why and how of Ukraine. Dyslexics do that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. This is the same Trump who didn't know Russia had already
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:26 AM
Mar 2017

invaded Ukraine, and other nations, though. Given his astonishing ignorance about almost everything and inability to be interested in anything that is not somehow related to him, why would he even notice this item?

Russia experts and foreign affairs analysts I read back then mostly believed Putin made this happen but was not serious about it at that time, having some fun getting people excited over here and showing off his abilities.

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