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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:17 PM Mar 2017

Masha Gessen is full of shit. She is intentionally spreading FUD about Russia

and Putin entangled with Trump and republicans and Chris Hayes is a fool to have her on his show.

She thinks this all just paranoia.

And she's casting shade on the IC.

Please keep this in mind if you see her on tv. Take what she says with a boulder of salt.

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Masha Gessen is full of shit. She is intentionally spreading FUD about Russia (Original Post) KittyWampus Mar 2017 OP
Hmm...I'm not familiar with that name. MineralMan Mar 2017 #1
She is an author from Russia who wrote a book about Putin and supposedly is antagonistic KittyWampus Mar 2017 #2
I thought got it was strange how she was dismissing Flynns actions - gaslighting... bettyellen Mar 2017 #6
Oh. OK. MineralMan Mar 2017 #7
I watched her for a few minutes. ananda Mar 2017 #16
I also thought her positioning just a tad bit off. Raster Mar 2017 #22
doubt about what? Is she saying there was no Russian involvement with the trump administration? still_one Mar 2017 #3
she's downplaying it and blaming the IC. Calling it all paranoia. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #8
thanks for the clarification still_one Mar 2017 #32
I can see someone with her background being turned off by the old cold war flamingdem Mar 2017 #4
She came across as a Russia apologist Blaukraut Mar 2017 #5
thank you for confirming my take on her interview. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #9
Even Hayes wasn't buying it and he usually doesn't push back a lot Blaukraut Mar 2017 #10
I also thought it was a strange interview. triron Mar 2017 #11
I think she is intentionally spreading FUD and I don't trust her. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #12
FUD? triron Mar 2017 #13
fear, uncertainty and doubt. It's what you do to squash something. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #14
Fucked Up Drivel? milestogo Mar 2017 #26
I thought the same thing. Heard her on XM Radio, didn't know who she was, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #15
Perhaps she is getting pressured?? triron Mar 2017 #17
Or she has an agenda. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #18
I think you're right about an agenda Blaukraut Mar 2017 #20
I've seen her on the MSNBC nightly shows and never got the vibe Grammy23 Mar 2017 #21
I just wonder if she was getting external marching orders? triron Mar 2017 #24
Between Gessen and Ioffe (who answered a question about Sessions by lapucelle Mar 2017 #30
Like maybe she has relatives in Russia? n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #28
She is full of shit and all she gave was her personal (rather biased) opinion. I don't think Chris H skylucy Mar 2017 #19
Masha Gessen is full of shit .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #23
Is she the author of how to survive stillsoleft Mar 2017 #25
Didn't Samantha Bee do something with her not too long ago? n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #27
Good call, I thought it was just me. JHan Mar 2017 #29
no doubt volksworker Mar 2017 #31
welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #39
After her interview my first thought was "She's trying to tamp down anti-Russian sentiment" I agree mulsh Mar 2017 #33
watching right now, agree with what you say JI7 Mar 2017 #34
I'm watching her spout this as I type! amazing. I thought Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #35
Someone got to her? triron Mar 2017 #36
no idea, but what I caught tonight, as I typed was sort of a mishmash, Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #37
She's simply regurgitating the Greenwaldian alt-left argument: OilemFirchen Mar 2017 #38
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. She is an author from Russia who wrote a book about Putin and supposedly is antagonistic
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:21 PM
Mar 2017

towards him.

But her appearance on Hayes' show is extremely suspicious.

ananda

(28,837 posts)
16. I watched her for a few minutes.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:39 PM
Mar 2017

She was really working hard to downplay and dismiss the evidence.

She is clearly a Russian plant for 45 and Putin.

I'm sorry, but Chris Hayes has been very disappointing lately.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
4. I can see someone with her background being turned off by the old cold war
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:21 PM
Mar 2017

tropes being tossed around... but that's not the point.

It could be Russians it could be another wanna be super power - the point is the collusion and the integrity of OUR politicians.

triron

(21,984 posts)
11. I also thought it was a strange interview.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:28 PM
Mar 2017

She caught Chris off guard I think. He seemed a little flustered.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,614 posts)
15. I thought the same thing. Heard her on XM Radio, didn't know who she was,
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:37 PM
Mar 2017

and couldn't figure out why she was dismissing all of these rapidly-connecting dots as mere conspiracy theorizing.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
21. I've seen her on the MSNBC nightly shows and never got the vibe
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:49 PM
Mar 2017

she was expressing tonight. It was odd, indeed, and yes, Chris seemed surprised by what she was saying. The idea was clear that we should be "wary" of things leaked by the intel people. Chris seemed happy and relieved to close that bizarre segment. Me, too. She was giving me the creeps. LOL

lapucelle

(18,190 posts)
30. Between Gessen and Ioffe (who answered a question about Sessions by
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:16 PM
Mar 2017

immediately comparing him to Hillary Clinton as a liar), Hayes needs to hire better bookers.

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
19. She is full of shit and all she gave was her personal (rather biased) opinion. I don't think Chris H
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:43 PM
Mar 2017

was buying it. Opinions are like *ssholes. Everybody's got one. Hers is not that impressive. I don't think she is going to get much traction with it either.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
23. Masha Gessen is full of shit ....
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:50 PM
Mar 2017

She sure is.

How do we know she's not a ruskie plant?


I very seldom watch Chris Hayes, and this is the reason WHY.

Doofus guests like Gessen.

stillsoleft

(80 posts)
25. Is she the author of how to survive
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:54 PM
Mar 2017

An autocratcy? I guess I could google that. I'll be back

Yes, Autocracy: Rules for Survival.

I guess no one needs her book if we get out of this mess.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
29. Good call, I thought it was just me.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:08 PM
Mar 2017

Her tone was very different and I couldn't figure out why. Very strange.

volksworker

(6 posts)
31. no doubt
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:48 PM
Mar 2017

I thought he went easy on her..........5 Trump campaign advisers caught in boldface lies and she thinks its all left wing sour grapes...........there is an agenda behind her treachery. She also seemed as though she was on mood controlling drugs.........strange and disconcerting

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
33. After her interview my first thought was "She's trying to tamp down anti-Russian sentiment" I agree
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:13 AM
Mar 2017

that her appearance and what she was saying was out of character from her previous appearances. Who knows, she may be a tool. She's written some insightful things about surviving Authoritarian regimes. John Dean's writings say many of the same things she does.

I keep telling myself that the primary bad actors in this are the Trump klan. Our adversary, Russia/Putin, is acting as adversaries will act. I don't approve of it and want it routed and punished but the ones to keep our eyes on are the Americans. They're the traitorous actors here.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
35. I'm watching her spout this as I type! amazing. I thought
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:18 AM
Mar 2017

the last time I saw her she had a handle on things, but she sounds like she just stepped off the set of RT

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
37. no idea, but what I caught tonight, as I typed was sort of a mishmash,
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:45 AM
Mar 2017

and I'll have to watch the recording

she was pretty compelling in her criticism of Putin the last time I saw her

https://www.google.com/#q=masha+gessen+trump+putin&*

lots of stuff here. I know she wrote a big fat book about putin, and that's about it


http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12382651-the-man-without-a-face

The Man Without a Face is the chilling account of how a low- level, small-minded KGB operative ascended to the Russian presidency and, in an astonishingly short time, destroyed years of progress and made his country once more a threat to her own people and to the world.

Handpicked as a successor by the "family" surrounding an ailing and increasingly unpopular Boris Yeltsin, Vladimir Putin seemed like a perfect choice for the oligarchy to shape according to its own designs. Suddenly the boy who had stood in the shadows, dreaming of ruling the world, was a public figure, and his popularity soared. Russia and an infatuated West were determined to see the progressive leader of their dreams, even as he seized control of media, sent political rivals and critics into exile or to the grave, and smashed the country's fragile electoral system, concentrating power in the hands of his cronies.

As a journalist living in Moscow, Masha Gessen experienced this history firsthand, and for The Man Without a Face she has drawn on information and sources no other writer has tapped. Her account of how a "faceless" man maneuvered his way into absolute-and absolutely corrupt-power has the makings of a classic of narrative nonfiction.


from what little else I've read about him, he seems to CLEARLY have his eyes on europe, and really wants to fracture the US/NATO alliance

gee, where have we seen this before?????

can't believe all these tom clancy redneck halfwits are SO fricking stupidly blinded to the reality that's actually MORE dangerous at this point than what we faced post 1963-4 cold war, except when Reagan almost got us all blown up

https://www.google.com/#q=ww+III+almost+started+under+reagan&*


but I meanderingly digress:

check this out, from gessen....last december.. make of it what you will:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/opinion/sunday/arguing-the-truth-with-trump-and-putin.html?_r=0

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
38. She's simply regurgitating the Greenwaldian alt-left argument:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

That the Russia "fixation" is merely a political ploy to attack Trump, while the real focus should be on the (ostensibly once-hated) intelligence community.

Curiously, that's the Trump line as well.

OK. Not so curiously.

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