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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:51 PM Mar 2017

Rachel has just connected another dot in the trump/russia alliance. A mysterious

Russian owned plane that seems to have appeared everywhere that trump appeared during the campaign. Mored to come after the break. This is better than a spy movie. The sad thing is it is real! Feel free to correct anything I got wrong until we can get a video.

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Rachel has just connected another dot in the trump/russia alliance. A mysterious (Original Post) mfcorey1 Mar 2017 OP
Shadow jet Achilleaze Mar 2017 #1
I don't think he appeared everywhere during the campaign, but certainly quite a few KewlKat Mar 2017 #2
You are correct! mfcorey1 Mar 2017 #6
Riviting show. kerouac2 Mar 2017 #3
found this about the russian aircraft KewlKat Mar 2017 #4
Somebody should do some checking Volaris Mar 2017 #5
I'm pretty sure Rachel tied him in with the Cyprus bank Monday night... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #7
She tied him back to Cyprus pretty tightly tonight. She's pulling threads... Hekate Mar 2017 #9
Some people complain... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #12
I love it because I'm old and she makes it quite clear at a slower pace. n/t monmouth4 Mar 2017 #47
I am a great Rachel admirer, but let's all remember Hortensis Mar 2017 #46
Nice metaphor lillypaddle Mar 2017 #49
Louise Mensch (UK) has tied DR and the M-KATE Ilsa Mar 2017 #16
She (Mensch) has been on this for weeks. susanna Mar 2017 #21
She (Mensch) deserves the credit BadgerMom Mar 2017 #29
Oh, I know she has - I have been following her for some time. susanna Mar 2017 #32
Mensch was a little upset on Twitter tonight, all the research she has done and no credit. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #37
Yes this is Louise's research NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #53
is this the same guy that bought some property from trump ? JI7 Mar 2017 #23
Yeah, king of fertilizer who bought lots of properties Ilsa Mar 2017 #35
I watched that segment. My gods, it just goes on and on seemingly forever. Hekate Mar 2017 #8
I pray for her life uponit7771 Mar 2017 #18
DC Report.org, David Kay Johnston's non profit site is reporting this info, Rachael is helping it mulsh Mar 2017 #10
waiting for that one to load. it might be overwhelmed with hits Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #27
part of dc report synopsis: Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #28
he's on again, right now. it's the jim henry story, which STILL WILL NOT Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #38
This was noted on twitter right as it happened flamingdem Mar 2017 #11
But she's getting it out first over the airwaves in many cases... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #13
Louise Mensch was the first to point this out triron Mar 2017 #14
Sounds like Dmitry Rybolovlev's plane M-KATE. I've been following it. CaptainTruth Mar 2017 #15
Air traffic control would have verifiable logs, right? Volaris Mar 2017 #17
It's in a database Lithos Mar 2017 #19
Yes, and see my other post for a question about this mchill Mar 2017 #26
Louise Mensch has been mrs_p Mar 2017 #20
Ain't Louise a piece of work?? Does she have ten hands and fifty fingers?? I check her tweets all Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #25
+1 BadgerMom Mar 2017 #30
Yeah, she sure tweets a lot mrs_p Mar 2017 #31
B-b-but - seems to me she tweets all morning/noon/night, mrs_p! And I believe she has a child or Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #34
Hmm. Intriguing thoughts. mrs_p Mar 2017 #36
Well, I'd have to say it's all her, because her tweets are so very - Louise! But hey, maybe she Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #40
her husband is the manager of Metallica, or somesuch job with them Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #41
Question mchill Mar 2017 #22
was she a brit? mensch: Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #39
I just started following Mensch mchill Mar 2017 #42
did you check the google image I linked? she's been both Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #43
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #24
K&R drm604 Mar 2017 #33
MKATE flight history jpegs from Jim Henry's article at DC Report Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #44
Fertilizer man is very interesting... Mike Nelson Mar 2017 #45
I've been trying to get on David Cay Johnston's website without luck this morning. Vinca Mar 2017 #48
I've been trying that site since I heard the mention on Rachel. Still says KewlKat Mar 2017 #50
Journalism at it's best - keep going - thanks for posting - these people are unbelievably brave northoftheborder Mar 2017 #51
What about his kids or other of his associates? duncang Mar 2017 #52
Oh, it's just a coincidence - a series of coincidences... MineralMan Mar 2017 #54

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
2. I don't think he appeared everywhere during the campaign, but certainly quite a few
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:02 PM
Mar 2017

that makes it seem very peculiar.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
4. found this about the russian aircraft
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:06 PM
Mar 2017

The private jet belongs to:

Owner: Dmitry Rybolovlev Registration: M-KATE Type: Airbus 319-133(CJ)
Year: 2012
Seats: 25
Value: US$ 90 million
Owners company: Ural Kali
More info: www.superyachtfan.com/... Dmitry Rybolovlev is the owner of an Airbus A319 business jet. Rybolovlev is a Russian billionaire. He controlled Uralkali, one of the world's largest producers of potash fertilizers. In 2010 Rybolovlev sold his shares in Uralkali for USD 6.5 billion to Suleiman Kerimov. In December 2011, Rybolovlev acquired two thirds of the French-side football club AS Monaco. Dmitry Evgenevich Rybolovlev is also the owner of a large yacht named Anna, after his daughter.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
5. Somebody should do some checking
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:25 PM
Mar 2017

And see see if he keeps an account in Cyprus at DeutchBank. I'd bet every dollar he has, that he does.

Because in America the oligarchs tell the Government what to do, but in Mother Russia 'Putin is the Czar, and you are his serf (even If you're one of the oligarchs)'.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
7. I'm pretty sure Rachel tied him in with the Cyprus bank Monday night...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:27 PM
Mar 2017

Might have to go back and watch that segment again.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
9. She tied him back to Cyprus pretty tightly tonight. She's pulling threads...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:34 PM
Mar 2017

...from multiple storylines, then weaving them -- into a rope.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. I am a great Rachel admirer, but let's all remember
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:30 AM
Mar 2017

she's reporting what others are turning up and reporting the analysis of others. We can bet she's not reporting everything she's being told at this point, either, while others seek to verify and fill in blanks and she and her staff develop the story she will relate over time.

Not to put down what she does so remarkably well at all, but we do need to respect the thousands out there working on this. Not just our own journalists and our intelligence agencies, but those in other countries as well? It seems very likely some have put their lives on the line and some will not survive their efforts to provide information to the world. Rachel is one who will make the most of what they do give her.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
16. Louise Mensch (UK) has tied DR and the M-KATE
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:00 AM
Mar 2017

to Trump as well. Including a recent trip to Palm Beach when 45 and Flynn were present.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
29. She (Mensch) deserves the credit
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

She was a bit miffed tonight on Twitter when someone else was credited. She recovered quickly. She wants impeachment more than personal recognition, but it is she who deserves the recognition. She has been brilliant.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
32. Oh, I know she has - I have been following her for some time.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:26 AM
Mar 2017

I understand her frustration, too. She's been working very hard connecting a lot of dots. I hope she gets recognized for the work she has done!

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
53. Yes this is Louise's research
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

But glad Rachel brought it mainstream. Keep working Journalists. You are the true defenders of freedom.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
35. Yeah, king of fertilizer who bought lots of properties
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:48 AM
Mar 2017

To cheat his divorcing wife out of the money. Rybolovev.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
8. I watched that segment. My gods, it just goes on and on seemingly forever.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:31 PM
Mar 2017

I have so much appreciation for Rachel and the people she brings into her orbit.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
10. DC Report.org, David Kay Johnston's non profit site is reporting this info, Rachael is helping it
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:34 PM
Mar 2017

get out there.
She had Mr. Johnston on her show this evening. Mr. Johnston gave the reporting credit to the author of the article he's posted at his site.

This is yet another reason why we're fortunate that Rachael has a show.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
27. waiting for that one to load. it might be overwhelmed with hits
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:53 AM
Mar 2017

it's not connecting as I type, but I'm pretty sure it has a picture of the plane there, along with flight info

this story, which is still not loading, is going to be the foundation, I hope, of the unavoidable shitstorm that should start raining down on these venal crooks

it's not loading, but you can get to it via DC Report

here's the synopsis

no doubt this is where Rachel is getting most of her info

is she attributing it to them?

https://www.dcreport.org/2017/02/25/another-cabinet-pick-with-secret-ties-to-putin-and-oligarchs/

amy goodman interviews johnston and henry here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028737389

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
28. part of dc report synopsis:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:55 AM
Mar 2017
A study prepared exclusively for DCReport.org by James S. Henry reveals deep financial ties between Donald Trump’s nominee for Commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, and three Russian oligarchs, whose lives and fortunes depend on staying in the good graces of Vladimir Putin.

These connections raise many new questions about Trump’s reliance on the Putin regime, which all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies say interfered in the presidential election on Trump’s behalf, but which Trump disputes.

These relationships between nominee Wilbur Ross and the oligarchs involve ownership and management of a European bank with a reputation for laundering Russian money and making bad loans.

The study also compared flight records of Trump’s campaign plane and a plane used by one of the oligarchs. During the campaign, the two planes often were at the same airports at the same time.
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
38. he's on again, right now. it's the jim henry story, which STILL WILL NOT
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

load from their DC Report site, as has been mentioned here

wonder if it's overload, as also was suggested

hope so, cause the DC Report site is accessible

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
11. This was noted on twitter right as it happened
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:34 PM
Mar 2017

As was the mansion story, she's not scooping all of this but she's filling it in

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
13. But she's getting it out first over the airwaves in many cases...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:40 PM
Mar 2017

good to see some good journalism for a change.

CaptainTruth

(6,588 posts)
15. Sounds like Dmitry Rybolovlev's plane M-KATE. I've been following it.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:53 PM
Mar 2017

It was in Palm Beach the weekend Trump & Flynn were there playing golf with Abe, right before Flynn resigned. It arrived in Miami when Trump got to Palm Beach & departed within about 20 minutes of Trump leaving.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
19. It's in a database
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:20 AM
Mar 2017

If you can get the tail number, you might be able to track it yourself:

http://getawaytips.azcentral.com/track-private-plane-flight-4444.html

Note: sometimes the ultra rich can pay extra to get themselves pulled off of the actual tracking part, though they can't hide some details.


mchill

(1,018 posts)
26. Yes, and see my other post for a question about this
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:52 AM
Mar 2017

A guest on Joy AM said a Russian was visiting Mar-a-lago that weekend, but Joy shut her off saying "that story has not been corroborated."

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
25. Ain't Louise a piece of work?? Does she have ten hands and fifty fingers?? I check her tweets all
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:52 AM
Mar 2017

day long, but every time I go there I have to "load older tweets" about 6 times to catch up!!

I first found her 3 weeks ago via a Malcolm Nance tweet, and omg omg - this wild woman's going on and on and ON about this "MKATE" and the Ryboloyev (SP!) guy, and others were tweeting that the press corps was holed up in a blacked-out room in the mansion, clueless that DFT and Flynn and Rybolobelv (SP!) and Abe were out there golfing and - well, I've never been quite the same after that night!

She was getting tweeted tonight about Rachel's MKATE, which she was recording for later, and she tweeted the following...so, whoever "AceInCharlotte" is, Louise would like HER to get props for her work on MKATE!:

Louise Mensch
@LouiseMensch

that's not fair, @Maddow - @AceInCharlotte should be on your show. If it's MKATE she and she alone found it
twitter.com/Inspired_Grace…
6:56 PM - 3 Mar 2017

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
31. Yeah, she sure tweets a lot
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:17 AM
Mar 2017

For this to be her evening hobby.

I have a feeling she and I would be in disagreement about many things, but I started following her after the election when she was one of the only (citizen) journalists keeping the Russian Trump reports going. Scott Dworken and Adam Khan are the others who have been putting the pieces together.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
34. B-b-but - seems to me she tweets all morning/noon/night, mrs_p! And I believe she has a child or
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:36 AM
Mar 2017

two and a husband - and, I would assume, a home and a dog and laundry etc?? Hmmm, maybe she's got "help"? But that's good, gives her all this time to set twitterville on FIRE!

Yes, Scott Dworkin and Adam Khan! - and Malcolm Nance, who really jump started my adventures in tweetland - I'm SO grateful these citizen sleuths are working like crazy people to get this nightmare behind us - !!

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
36. Hmm. Intriguing thoughts.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:51 AM
Mar 2017

What's your theory? BTW, yes, I agree she is a little too prolific for having a day job, family, and a "real" life for this to be her side gig. You thinking she is the front for a collective or do you think she is possibly a distraction or do you think something other?

Damn this president and his cronies. I've become suspicious that everyone is part of a grand spy ring.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
40. Well, I'd have to say it's all her, because her tweets are so very - Louise! But hey, maybe she
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:22 AM
Mar 2017

dictates to a "collective"? Unknown!!

I just saw gabi's post below - good info - I know she was an MP, is conservative, works for Murdoch?? How - what - BUT also gets published in The Guardian occasionally. Oh, also read last week that she was a consultant or advisor for HRC's campaign as well!? - so, her various gigs in life have put her in a position to have many countless "contacts" all around the world, non?

She has said many times that she loves this country with all her heart and is more than willing to set aside conservative/liberal, right/left stances if it means she can help restore a righteous, robust democracy within the United States of America.

And mrs_p, I believe her.

Also (this just in!) - as of tonight she is loving her some "professor" twitter-sleuth fella I've not heard of before (oh, great, another friggin bookmark!!?):


(((ProfessingProf)))
@ Professing_Prof
Somewhere Near You
Teach law. Support #TheResistance. “We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" Ben Franklin
theprofessingprofessor.com

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
41. her husband is the manager of Metallica, or somesuch job with them
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:28 AM
Mar 2017

I linked the article that says it, anyway

mchill

(1,018 posts)
22. Question
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:32 AM
Mar 2017

I watched this segment closely and the last connection RM made between Dimitri Rybolovlev and Trump was Rybolovlev ("fertilizer king&quot flying into the Miami Airport from the South of France on a the Friday before the weekend that Trump entertained the Japanese PM at Mar-a-lago.

Now, I was watching Joy AM that weekend, or the following weekend, discussing that Mar-a-lago weekend (frought with other issues) and a female guest on the show mentioned as an interesting fact, a Russian spending that same weekend at Mar-a-lago. Joy quickly shut her off saying "we haven't corroborated that story." I searched and searched for who that woman was or for the video of that segment to find out that woman's name, but couldn't find a thing.

Did anyone else happen to see that and note anything about it?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
39. was she a brit? mensch:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:03 AM
Mar 2017
https://www.google.com/search?q=louise+mensch&biw=958&bih=529&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwip0pPTlbzSAhXh54MKHd8JCCQQ_AUIBygC

former writer/member of parliament

tory!

I think I linked this story....I read it the other day

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/louise-mensch-trump-russia-ties-media-scoop

In the journalistic race to get to the bottom of one of the most closely guarded secrets in Washington – the investigation into the Trump team’s contacts with Moscow – one of the biggest scoops came from an unexpected source: the British former MP and novelist Louise Mensch.

Mensch has lived in New York since resigning as the Conservative MP for Corby in 2012 so that she could spend more time with her children and her American husband, Peter, the manager of the heavy metal band Metallica.

Now 45, the woman born Louise Bagshawe in London who once dominated the chick-lit bestseller lists in the UK has reinvented herself once more: working as an executive for Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp by day, and probing Donald Trump’s Moscow connections by night.
Deutsche Bank examined Donald Trump's account for Russia links
Read more

On the eve of the November election, Mensch published a sensational story reporting that a special intelligence court in Washington had granted a warrant to allow the FBI to conduct surveillance of “US persons” in an investigation of possible contacts between Russian banks and the Trump organisation.


metallica!!!!!

and they were making a big deal about FISA warrants today, because it shows that they're onto somebody in the junta.....maybe Flynn

that's the real reason he had to 'resign,' yes?

who's next? after sessions

Tillerson or Ross?

mchill

(1,018 posts)
42. I just started following Mensch
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:38 AM
Mar 2017

Doesn't she have blond hair? This woman had dark hair. Perhaps I can now find a transcript of the show come to think of it.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
43. did you check the google image I linked? she's been both
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:41 AM
Mar 2017

british accent?

joy should have back whoever it was, cause it seems her fears of verification should be assuaged

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
44. MKATE flight history jpegs from Jim Henry's article at DC Report
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:22 AM
Mar 2017




sorry for the fuzzy, but>>>>

the article....10 thousand words.....lots of details about the plane:

https://www.dcreport.org/wilbur-ross-russian-connections/

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
48. I've been trying to get on David Cay Johnston's website without luck this morning.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 08:53 AM
Mar 2017

Maybe it's crashed from traffic or something. It's amazing they're tracking tail numbers and following the bad guys around the planet. dcReport.org

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
50. I've been trying that site since I heard the mention on Rachel. Still says
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:46 AM
Mar 2017

Unable to connect

Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at www.dcreport.org.

The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
52. What about his kids or other of his associates?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:30 AM
Mar 2017

Just wondering if that plane turned up at the same place in Africa while his sons were hunting there during the campaign? Or if it turned up in the same spots some of his surrogates were. It could get interesting if it did seem to follow others in his campaign.

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