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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump won and has a robot majority in Congress...why are his supporters ANGRIER than we are?
drm604
(16,230 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Because they know tRump is pathetic and will never come close to Obama standards.
Because they know that every time we call out one of their lying sack of shit congressmen, we are right.
Because they know they are in the minority.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Most of them are in denial. They are hypnotized by the Magic "R". They hate Obama so they wouldn't want a President like him. Some of them still think they are the majority. I hear Trump humpers say the majority won. It's utter cluelessness. They will cheat and fight to the bitter end.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)thinking they have a "deep down" inside that is telling them the truth even though they ignore it?
You're probably right. They are just shallow, deluded, empty vessels that were waiting for someone to fill them with hate.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)And that is very kind of you. I have moved beyond that state. I accept the mixture of stupidity and hate that is the Trump humper. Generally, I am a very positive, compassionate and hopeful person. But the Trump voters are a dose of reality. They are a reminder that even with all the progress, there is still so much work to do. I realize that I won't reach most of them. I can't make them change. I have to let things play out and focus my energy on moving forward.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)to express itself physically
if we're lucky they'll all get pancreatic cancer
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)these people know not what they've done
some fictional character said something like that, didn't he/she?
surely not this guy
zentrum
(9,865 posts)....this. Perfect.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)he should've run against trump
would've destroyed him
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I suppose that's because they have buyers remorse. They project a lot but really the anger should be focused at themselves because they are the ones with bad ideas and bad instincts and they messed this all up.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Warpy
(111,222 posts)hate anyone they've been given permission to hate.
Remember, Nazi Germany, Bosnia, and Rwanda all started with hate radio.
caroldansen
(725 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)And conditioned. The decades of hate for Hillary combined with their talk radio wing nuts, Fox news and this election have allowed them to marinate in all that venom and hate. Now they walk around gloating. These poor victimized white males in particular act like they have been vindicated.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)They got played for suckers. A bunch of walking zombies.
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)THEIR side is the one who cheated. I guess they just always need to fix their perpetual rage on someone. They seriously need to find Buddha or go to woods or take up pottery or something. Something to channel all their anger into something creating and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)They should hate people like Trump and the Republicans who are striving to make it harder for them to make a decent living and have health benefits. Their hate could be good if was directed at the right people.
MADem
(135,425 posts)the sale was made, the item paid for, boxed up in a fancy velvet container, and the receipt handed off (no returns, mind you), they realized it was just a small pebble covered in bird shit.
They can't admit they've been hoodwinked, so they wear that pebble covered in bird shit like it's the most precious pearl in the world....but they KNOW it isn't, and they realize, to their dismay, that WE KNOW it isn't, as well.
They're not "all that" -- they're idiots walking around adorned with a pebble covered in bird shit. They've been ripped off, but they can't get their money back, so they're pissed about it.
susanna
(5,231 posts)I look around and see his supporters doubling down - yet still being defensive - and your post hits the nail on the head. Thank you, MADem.
MADem
(135,425 posts)their character.
If I got ripped off, I'd be annoyed, too. I'd be sad and frustrated if I didn't get my money back, certainly. But I'd consider it a DUTY to warn others, so they didn't get ripped off, too--I'd swallow my embarrassment and humiliation at being a moron who got conned, and sound the alarm--"Don't buy the LUSTROUS PEARL, friends! It's actually a pebble covered in bird shit! You'll be sorry! One star on YELP!"
But those Trumphumpers, they sure have a different way of looking at things. They're saying to themselves "I bought this piece of shit, and I won't be satisfied until everyone else buys it, too--misery loves company, after all!" And then they're saying to their good friends and relatives, with all the faux sincerity they can muster, "So buy that Lustrous Pearl--OR ELSE...and we'll Make America Great Again!!! GRRRRR!"
And the worse Trump gets, the louder and more stupid his supporters get, even as their actual numbers shrink.
susanna
(5,231 posts)That's why your piece resonated. I'd be warning the world!
I have several Trump-humpers in my world and that is EXACTLY how they have been acting. It's almost like, "the kool-aid isn't that bad, you should give it a chance. We did and we're glad!"
Uh....NOPE.
What I really loved about your post is its use of metaphor and storytelling to get the point across. Alas, I was born a technical/logical writer and I struggle with finding a natural voice, so I really am fascinated by those who can tell the story in another way. I'll be looking at this and figuring out how to tell the story in my own world. And I hope more than anything that I can be successful at it.
You gave me a bit of hope and I'm thankful. Sometimes it's how you say it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I come from a crew that always loved a good story-we egg one another on.
When you go to write something, just pretend you're talking to that friend who's a good listener, or someone who wants to hear what you have to say! Works like a charm!
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)And great writing!
MADem
(135,425 posts)I write like I talk; I'm old school and tend towards the verbose, I'm afraid!
frankieallen
(583 posts)we dems are pissed off, have you noticed all the protesters and demonstrations? I see them almost everyday on the news. What are you talking about?
yewberry
(6,530 posts)Read a little. The Trump supporters are extremely aggressive and hostile. They're wildly defensive and expend a great deal of energy calling us names and making continuous deranged claims about sabotage and unfairness toward their hero piece of shit. They loathe us and they have no qualms about telling us so over and over in no uncertain terms.They don't even consider us "real" Americans unless we're in planes being hijacked by terrorists or in buildings being attacked by planes hijacked by terrorists. Until then, we're coastal elites, snowflakes, perverts, baby-killers, demonrats and libtards.
Of course we're pissed off: we're the left that endlessly has to champion moderate republicans in order to fight of the deranged right.
What are *YOU* talking about?
frankieallen
(583 posts)personally i try to stay away from right wing hate sites on the internet. you should try it, you won't be so unhinged.
No, dude, I live in the world. Apparently you're new to this issue. They've been calling us traitors and far worse for years. And if you think I'm unhinged for being aware that right-wingers say this shit, do this shit, and believe this shit, I have serious doubts that you live on the same planet I do.
You should try paying attention. Being aware that your fellow Americans hate your guts because they bought into the right wing's hate campaign against you isn't unhinged.
susanna
(5,231 posts)who don't understand the animosity between political groups that has developed since the start of hate radio (it is hate radio, so that is what I will call it) in the early 1990s.
Some people did not see the beginnings of what the rest of us are watching come to fruition.
It's sort of random, and the powers that be count on it. They don't want today's younger - or today's less political - people to know this nastiness has been going on for a long, long time.
I can't remember the last time someone from the loyal opposition talked to me respectfully. And trust me, I would; I remember when we fought honestly, but in some sort of fairness and respect. I miss that.
But to fellow DUers who might be unaware: once upon a time, we did debate one another respectfully. We made compromises. We got shit done. We did amazing things in this America that I love.
Today? Not so much. And I worry for our future if we can't get back there.
CrispyQ
(36,439 posts)I have some rwnj in my family & they are very careful not to say that they hate blacks, Hispanics, gays or women, but they have no issue saying that they hate liberals & democrats. It's code for all the groups that you can't name.
In the worst of them, I've noticed a gleefulness that liberals are fearful & concerned. It's one of the difference between us - when they were angst ridden over Obama, I didn't understand it, but I never felt gleeful that they were worried. They are having so much fun posting their liberal tears comments & calling us snowflakes. They are Trump at the core - bullies who don't know how to adapt to changing times.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)also, just to see if our side is overstating the dumbness on the right.
My conclusion, imo, they are INSANE! I mean as in literally.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)I am willing to debate and discuss issues with anyone who is civil. I will never budge an inch. I will fight them at every step. This will be a life-long struggle, and we have to win. The soul of our country is at stake. Fake news is a cancer on America. Hate radio, too.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The wingnuts are off the page. Completely.
The Democrats are far more issue-oriented, fact-based, and for the most part, sane. There are a few exceptions, as there will always be when a large group gets together, but the left definitely owns the high ground over there.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)The block button is your friend.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Donald Trump's twitter account without seeing some of his slavish fans engaging with people who are telling Trump to fuck off--in fact, that's one of the best places to see the lunacy of which I spoke. It's like a shit-flinging contest right under Trump's swollen, tiny orange fingers and Team Donald does not have the "smarts" to prevail in any of those contests--the Dems smack down with facts, the red asshats respond with photoshopped old pictures of Hillary--it's rather pathetic and, putting aside the lame insults, astounding that they think they're "scoring" with that sad old shit. They're really just Not Smart at all.
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)...or any news site's comments section.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)especially when they claim to be Democrats. Joe Manchin, that was aimed at you :"
JI7
(89,244 posts)the protestors are not being hateful.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If you say "Looks like Trump's got Russian trouble," they'll respond with "Hillary! Benghazi! Emails!"
If you say "Looks like half of Trump's cabinet has met secretly with the chief spy recruiter in the form of a Russian ambassador and LIED about it," they'll post a 14 year old pic of Putin and Schumer eating donuts, or a picture of SECSTATE Clinton calling on Putin in her capacity as a cabinet official, with a mouth-breathing "AH HA!" They simply don't have any real game--all they can do is snarl defensively. They don't know how to respond to criticisms that are so valid that they're obvious even to them! It's really pissing them off, too, because the old invective and the "snowflake" shit just ain't working.
i have been seeing it. they were hoping for an "i told you so" with Trump. that he would be some smooth businessman making deals all over the place to improve everything. it wasn't really ideological in the usual left/right liberal/conservative. but just to show he was better than the black guy that was so popular among the liberals.
but instead he is showing what he has always been and what he has always shown himself to be which is an ignorant fucking buffoon. there was not serious different better businessman inside that was going to reveal himself as president.
all the while liberals are having fun with it by joking about it. and they CANNOT stand it.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Not happening.
MADem
(135,425 posts)when our crew mocks back/doesn't react in a cowed fashion.
It's like the Terrible Two Toddler and the easygoing dog.The Toddler is fucking with that dog, sticking his hands in the poor dog's ears, pulling her tail, poking and grabbing at her...and the dog takes it. The kid gets more aggressive, and the dog gives a low growl. The kid gets even more aggressive, and the dog finally snaps and nips the kid. Then the kid starts screaming hysterically, and the dog starts barking back at the kid, ready to use it as a chew toy.
We need the intelligence services to come along like mommy or daddy and say "Donald--bad boy--you'd better leave that dog alone or she'll take your hand off, and I won't blame her!" And then they need to take Donald (and any of his helper buddies) from the room, and leave us Big Dogs to run the show--LOL!
Dulcinea
(6,616 posts)The conservative movement will die unless it has someone to hate & demonize. Since the Cold War ended, they don't have the Commies to kick around anymore, so they've turned on their fellow Americans.
hurple
(1,306 posts)Reality has a well-known liberal bias
unblock
(52,169 posts)manicraven
(901 posts)How can Trumpists feel cheerful or satisfied when their entire world view is one of suspicion towards "big government," "feminazis," the LGBTQ community (trans people might be using the bathroom!), "lazy brown people," Muslims, and they think "others" are getting free stuff while they pay high taxes and feel they're getting no respect and are trapped in a situation that's changing dramatically right before their eyes?
OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)Have done since the last 20 years and that's sit there and take whatever shit Republicans throw at them. It must be a shock to the system to see such a Democratic resistance. Long may it continue.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)canetoad
(17,148 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)conservatism relies upon anger, it cannot exist if people are actually happy with their achievements and with their neighbors. That is why many rich conservative simply needs more, more, more.. Upper-middle-class professionals want to be millionaires, millionaires want to be billionaires. Billionaires want to be gods. The fact is though, no matter what these rich clergy tell their parishioners, money will not make you happy, so like addicts moving from Coke to crystal meth, they keep chasing that ever elusive high that will become much more temporary and much less lasting with each successful hit. Why else would Trump be the poster boy for this age? Here is a man who I have seen on television for 30 years. I still remember when he was a local New York area celebrity, as opposed to what he is now. He has never changed, and will not change, he is always going to be someone chasing a high, and not even pretending to want to build anything lasting or substantial. Sadly, that goes for most of his followers, especially the religious ones and the ones steeped in the dark side of redneck culture. They will not be able to be satisfied with their lives, not competent, not confident enough, tto simply let others be, so they must pursue this manifest destiny will all that is not them is underfoot.
It could be said that every culture has its demons and angels, this is our demon, and sadly, the only times we've got the upper hand in this nation are when our demons crashed the car, made such a horrific mess that they could not deny they need our help. What's dangerous is, in an age of alternative facts, they might just keep on going, long after the car drives off the cliff.
HAB911
(8,873 posts)mcar
(42,288 posts)Seems like they have some psychological need to be angry at the "other" all the time.
They are probably eating up Drumpf's latest insane attacks on Dems.
randome
(34,845 posts)Because they know deep down that there is nothing of substance to religion.
Because they lack creativity and know it.
Because we are generally more content with our lives.
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C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)Have you seen what these people eat?
tblue37
(65,269 posts)wronged you, for in order to feel good about himself, he must demonize and destroy you to prove you deserved every awful thing he did to you.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Vilis Veritas
(2,405 posts)Angry because we liberals are trying to end their way of life.
Gun range revenue and sales of ammo are way up, make of that what you will.
I am hopeful as it is beginning to look as if the evidence and take down will be so overwhelming that the country will be stunned and together rather than torn apart.
Peace to you all