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(85,986 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:57 AM Mar 2017

Wiretaps Donald Trump "just found out" about have been reported for weeks





2/ @LouiseMensch broke the news for @heatstreet that a FISA warrant was granted to explore Donald's Russia Ties https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/ twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/838011444566294528




3/ The @guardian's @julianborger reported on the FISA warrant again when the Steele dossier news broke in January https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts
twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/838012410912985088




4/ @NRO's @AndrewCMcCarthy- a former terrorism prosecutor- considered the implications of using FISA to tap Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443768/obama-fisa-trump-wiretap
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4/ Republicans who have defended surveillance powers are now critical of it especially following Flynn's resignation https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15/after-michael-flynns-resignation-surveillance-defenders-suddenly-care-about-wiretap-abuse/
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5/ And just this week Donald's administration announced it had no intention of curtailing FISA http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-fisa-idUSKBN16855P
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6/ When @LouiseMensch reported on the FISA (warrant), she included details that implicated Putin's own daughters, Carter Page and Paul Manafort.
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7/ This week @SenCoonsOffice suggested the transcripts that the FBI has may prove collusion with Russia. https://t.co/QIAustEs5C
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8/ Coons has been one of the staunchest critics of surveillance powers, having introduced bills to reign in FISA
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9/ Back to Donald. Wiretapping him was not illegal, full stop. And it suggests the court had reason to permit it.
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11/ We can now conclude that our govt has significant intelligence on Donald and his associates. We need to see it.
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Wiretaps Donald Trump "just found out" about have been reported for weeks (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2017 OP
Bear with Donnie. He's a little slow. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #1
too stupid to just stay silent bigtree Mar 2017 #2
Bless his heart COLGATE4 Mar 2017 #9
K & R femmocrat Mar 2017 #3
What is it, SCVDem Mar 2017 #13
Yeah, but... Cirque du So-What Mar 2017 #4
looks to me like Breitbart spinning legitimate reporting on FISA warrants bigtree Mar 2017 #7
Trump lives in the alt-right echo chamber Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #5
Maybe now the Idiot in the Oval Office can see the merit of daily intelligence reports? Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #6
it's beyond his comprehension bigtree Mar 2017 #8
For him BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #15
It is true there was a wire ? I just said it wasn't... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #10
Louise Mensch digs into that bigtree Mar 2017 #11
It's a smoke screen. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #12
I'm sure there's a lot of that in these tweets bigtree Mar 2017 #16
It's also the Sabbath and by previous reports Jared and Ivanka are observant Tanuki Mar 2017 #17
that's interesting bigtree Mar 2017 #18
Excellent analysis, bigtree. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #19
When can Citizen Obama SCVDem Mar 2017 #14
former Bush AG: yes FISA warrant on Trump Tower; no Obama involvement bigtree Mar 2017 #20
DURec leftstreet Mar 2017 #21

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. K & R
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:30 AM
Mar 2017

Thanks so much... I just turned on the TV and I'm trying to figure out this latest twist. Looks like he is trying to discredit whatever the feds have on him. More shoes dropping!

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
4. Yeah, but...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Mar 2017

those are all 'fake news' reports. Now that it's oozed onto the webpages of infowars & briteFart, shit just got real; deplorables are finding out about it now.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
7. looks to me like Breitbart spinning legitimate reporting on FISA warrants
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:57 AM
Mar 2017

...putting out nonsense about Pres. Obama ordering them.

Any Obama connection alleged is easily disproved, but that's never been a concern for these conservative publications. They're satisfied to use any vehicle for their propaganda which their readers accept without question - like Trump appears to have done.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. Trump lives in the alt-right echo chamber
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:37 AM
Mar 2017

He only hears what they tell him.

Apparently, they hadn't mentioned the complexity of overhauling ACA either.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
6. Maybe now the Idiot in the Oval Office can see the merit of daily intelligence reports?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:45 AM
Mar 2017

You know, just to clue him into what's going on in the world outside of his personal agenda.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
10. It is true there was a wire ? I just said it wasn't...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:13 AM
Mar 2017

wow...couldn't believe there was probable cause for FISA...Trump is a fucking traitor.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
11. Louise Mensch digs into that
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:18 AM
Mar 2017

from November 7, 2016:

Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons...

The FISA warrant was granted in connection with the investigation of suspected activity between the server and two banks, SVB Bank and Alfa Bank. However, it is thought in the intelligence community that the warrant covers any ‘US person’ connected to this investigation, and thus covers Donald Trump and at least three further men who have either formed part of his campaign or acted as his media surrogates. The warrant was sought, they say, because actionable intelligence on the matter provided by friendly foreign agencies could not properly be examined without a warrant by US intelligence as it involves ‘US Persons’ who come under the remit of the FBI and not the CIA. Should a counter-intelligence investigation lead to criminal prosecutions, sources say, the Justice Department is concerned that the chain of evidence have a basis in a clear warrant.

In June, when the first FISA warrant was denied, the FBI was reportedly alarmed at Carter Page’s trip to Moscow and meetings with Russian officials, one week before the DNC was hacked. Counter intelligence agencies later reported to both Presidential candidates that Russia had carried out this hack; Donald Trump said publicly in the third debate that ‘our country has no idea’ if Russia did the hacking. The discovery of the Trump Tower private Russian server, however, communicating with Alfa Bank, changed matters, sources report.


read more: https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/

...the buzz is that the warrant granted for the server connected to Russian banks was left open expanded to other incidents of Russian contacts and involvement.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
16. I'm sure there's a lot of that in these tweets
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:31 PM
Mar 2017

...I'm seeing that Trump is basically on his own this morning, Bannon and Reince back in Washington, and Donald freewheeling on his temporary escape from the confines of the WH.

When he's at his Florida resort, he can act like the petty king he thinks he should be, pushing all of the buttons and turning all the wheels he can reach on his playstation while he smiles at himself in the little mirror.

Trump tweeted this nonsense because he has almost zero understanding of what's swirling around him. There's a definite subversive intent to the tweets, but there's also a child-like defensiveness, perhaps a deflection of guilt, in his tweets about the wiretaps.

He makes a desperate attempt to project his own predicament onto Pres. Obama, using a report from a source(s) which couldn't care less about the accuracy of their story(ies) which suggested the former president was orchestrating the investigation. It's a weak straw, and a good sign of how embattled he is right now.

I don't believe Trump is as smart as his handlers. He's being played like a puppet from Bannon; to Ryan and McConnell; to Putin. You are correct, littlemissmartypants, that the real power is being generated elsewhere. I don't think Trump's steering wheel is actually connected to anything important.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
17. It's also the Sabbath and by previous reports Jared and Ivanka are observant
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:46 PM
Mar 2017

and can't exert any control over his madness until sundown.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
20. former Bush AG: yes FISA warrant on Trump Tower; no Obama involvement
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017



Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey on Sunday said that President Trump is likely correct that there was surveillance on Trump Tower for intelligence purposes, but incorrect in accusing former President Barack Obama of ordering the wiretapping.

“I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general – at the Justice Department,” Mukasey told ABC’s “This Week.”

Mukasey, who served as the attorney general under former President George W. Bush, said he believes there was surveillance on Trump Tower after reading certain news reports.

Mukasey said if there were a wiretap on Trump Tower, it would mean that there was suspicion someone had been acting as Russian agent.

"It means there was some basis to believe that somebody in Trump Tower may have been acting as an agent of the Russians for whatever purpose,” he said. “Not necessarily the election, but for some purpose.”


read: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/322403-former-bush-ag-trump-right-that-there-was-surveillance
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