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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe tap was approved by a FISA Court, not President Obama
And by a showing of probable cause.CincyDem
(6,353 posts)I'm not a fan of FISA and I"m not flipping sides on it just because of this.
At the same time, imagine what they saw to approve this. Also, I wonder who did the warrant - wasn't that a Sally Yates role. Think that had something to do with her "betraying this country" as DJT tweeted.
We are so far into "WTF Land". Sheesh.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)That being said if an investigative agency can make a showing of probable cause that a crime has been committed they have every right to be granted a wiretap.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)unc70
(6,110 posts)I believe the warrant could go beyond just wire taps. Possibly allowing bugging of locations. So not just recordings of telephone conversations, but also of face-to-face meetings.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)This is all manufactured GOSSIP from Breitbart!
My money would be on Trump Tower being bugged, but it's just as feasible that it's bugged by Russia than by the FBI.
But let's not go off on rabbit hunts. There's plenty of valid, corroborated information that shows Trumpy to be a Russian Asset (with the burden of proof being "Preponderance of Evidence" .
Trumpy can easily slip off into paranoid delusions. That's how he rolls.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)This indicates that someone in the West Wing is a security risk...and there criminality involved...the GOP has been whining about the Flynn tape for a while...good old Nunes who threated the press... I just found out about this myself...it didn't register.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)communicating to Russian bank and the dumpsters campaign?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
wonder if that happened and what if anything was discovered.......man there is just so much crap out there that he's doing/done that folks are trying to dig into for discovery.
spanone
(135,828 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)It only hurts when I laugh
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)Keep in mind that there are multiple Russia / Russia-Trump investigations... and ties between them will arise as each investigation continues.
I believe it was in a Malcolm Nance interview where it was mentioned that NSA had a related FISA warrant and that although the first FBI FISA request (covering 4 people)was denied for being too narrow...
the FBI resubmitted a broader request around October ....
no one has ever indicated that one was denied.
That means potentially 2 separate agencies w/FISA warrants ..
The US may not have had eyes& ears on all Trump Russia communications...
but ''tis likely that other (foreign) intel agencies have recordings that the US does not...
FISA allows the US agency to accept & review any intelligence provided by foreign agencies. that includes communications of US citizens.....
any country fearing Russian occupation will gladly hand over intel as well as any allies we have left .
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)them on all his lies....too many and it distracts us from more important news to be kept alive.
This behavior is bait and switch. KEEP ON MESSAGE!
mitch96
(13,895 posts)If the NSA is monitoring foreign communications and said communications go in and out of dRump tower and it was collected during Obama's watch... and leaked ......
OF COURSE IT WAS OBAMA'S FAULT!!!
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uponit7771
(90,335 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Intercepted "on the other end" so to speak, without a warrant.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Rubber stamp.